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siljaline
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Windows 7 SP1 to start rolling out on Windows Update

Running Windows 7 below Service Pack 1 ?

quote:
Starting tomorrow, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) will begin rolling out automatically on Windows Update. Updating customers to Windows 7 SP1 is part of our ongoing effort to ensure continued support and improved security updates for customers who have not yet installed SP1. Windows 7 SP1 was previously available on Windows Update but required user action to install. Starting tomorrow, the installation will be fully automatic with no user action required for those who already have Automatic Update enabled. SP1 will be released gradually over the coming weeks to all customers on the RTM version of Windows 7. The service pack will take slightly longer to install compared to other updates. To ensure Service Pack 1 is installed without issue, customers should check for sufficient free disk space and that AC power is present on a laptop. If additional space needs to be created, we recommend using the Disk Cleanup tool to delete some files so that the service pack will install. If the service pack installation is interrupted, it will reattempt to install automatically after the next restart.
• »blogs.windows.com/windows/b/blog···ate.aspx


Cartel

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I thought you said SP2 there for a second....I was already imagining a windows 8 neutering coming....SP1 ok.

panic aborted

I'd be surprised if people weren't running SP1 by now.



StuartMW
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said by Cartel:

I'd be surprised if people weren't running SP1 by now.

+1

SP1 was pre-installed for me.
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siljaline
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reply to Cartel

Had it been SP2 there would have probably been more fanfare and prerequisites, I would think.

I got SP1 as it was available when I first started running Win 7.



La Luna
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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

said by Cartel:

I'd be surprised if people weren't running SP1 by now.

+1

SP1 was pre-installed for me.

Same here.
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StuartMW
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reply to Cartel

said by Cartel:

I was already imagining a windows 8 neutering coming...

Which is why a Win7 SP2 is unlikely. Out of interest

WinNT 3.51 SP5
WinNT 4.0 SP6a
Win2K SP4
WinXP SP3
Vista SP2
Win7 SP1

Either Microsoft is getting better or they're releasing fewer SP's.
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Service

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reply to siljaline

Good to know, I don't download service packs, I'll order it.


slajoh01

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Most Win7 discs come without SP1 on it when bought from retail stores.



rcdailey
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I had to get a video driver update from Toshiba in order to put SP1 on that particular laptop. Not every user would have noticed that, but would just have thought that their computer didn't need SP1. The laptop was running Win 7 Pro 64-bit, just like two desktop systems, but did not accept SP1, while the desktop systems did. I had to do a little research to find out why, though it wasn't that difficult.
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therube

join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD
reply to siljaline

The other day I freshly installed from a Win7 SP1 CD.
When done, Windows Updates had some 80 or so odd updates for me to install. (This was not including any Optional updates.)

(Included in that list were updates for IE8, the default browser, an option for an install of IE9, & then an option for an install of IE10. I chose no IE options at all, instead installing IE10 directly from a download I had gotten a while back.)



Cheese
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reply to siljaline

Start rolling out? Am I missing something as it's been out in WU for the longest time now.



kickass69

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"Windows 7 SP1 was previously available on Windows Update but required user action to install. Starting tomorrow, the installation will be fully automatic with no user action required for those who already have Automatic Update enabled."



StuartMW
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Starting tomorrow, the installation will be fully automatic with no user action required...
Aside from a reboot or three. Plus it'll use some bandwidth while downloading the 537.8MB-903.2MB SP1 file.
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siljaline
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reply to Cheese

said by Cheese:

Start rolling out? Am I missing something as it's been out in WU for the longest time now.

One would think so If you aren't patched you will be starting today


Cheese
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I have been patched since it was released



therube

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Aw, I can see through you Cheese, you're full of holes.
Must be Swiss.



EDIT: (looks like i need to explain a bit of my dry humor)

quote:
I have been patched
"cheese", "cheese with holes" , "swiss cheese"


Cheese
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?


Finger2208

join:2001-04-07
Lindale, TX
reply to rcdailey

said by rcdailey:

I had to get a video driver update from Toshiba in order to put SP1 on that particular laptop. Not every user would have noticed that, but would just have thought that their computer didn't need SP1. The laptop was running Win 7 Pro 64-bit, just like two desktop systems, but did not accept SP1, while the desktop systems did. I had to do a little research to find out why, though it wasn't that difficult.

I feel your pain there! We currently have a laptop, Acer Aspire 5745G, with switchable graphics. The Intel adapter, currently running 8.15.10.2104, will not allow SP1 to be served up via WU. Honestly I've been too gutless to install the newer Intel driver on the Acer site, as I don't want to trash the nVidia drivers....the only adapter we really use. So I guess it's time to bite the bullet and update. Just hoping I don't trash things in the process!


StuartMW
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said by Finger2208:

Just hoping I don't trash things in the process!

I had a switchable graphics box some years ago (not an Acer) and it had the same vendors (nVidia/Intel). The drivers are completely separate so I doubt you'll have any issues. I never did.

BTW you have to switch adapters to update the driver(s).
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dave
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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

Either Microsoft is getting better or they're releasing fewer SP's.

In Ye Olde Days, service packs came on shiny discs and there was not much churn in between service packs: service packs were the only vehicle for delivering updates to customers.

Nowadays, with Windows Update, the 'need' for SPs is less; an SP is more like a convenience.


StuartMW
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said by dave:

In Ye Olde Days, service packs came on shiny discs and there was not much churn in between service packs...

That was true before WinNT 4.0 but I'm pretty sure that had WU. I know I was on high-speed internet at that time.

I never actually used WinNT 3.51 (was on Win 3.1 at the time) but worked at a place where it was used. I have it in a VM now Even found all the (post SP5) patches for it.

---

Ok, fired up a WinNT 4.0 VM and it didn't have WU built-in. That said if you had IE6 installed you got WU that way. It no longer works though.
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Finger2208

join:2001-04-07
Lindale, TX
reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

said by Finger2208:

Just hoping I don't trash things in the process!

I had a switchable graphics box some years ago (not an Acer) and it had the same vendors (nVidia/Intel). The drivers are completely separate so I doubt you'll have any issues. I never did.

BTW you have to switch adapters to update the driver(s).

Okay, currently we run the laptop in "performance" mode...aka the nVidia adapter. Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers. Only when I switch to "power saver" mode does the Intel HD driver actually load and show up in the tray bar. So will I want to be using the nVidia drivers or the Intel when I install the newer Intel drivers? Sorry, just don't want to trash anything

Honestly, playing with the drivers on this box over the weekend seems like a piece of cake compared to doing the laptop and the "switchable" graphics...confusing!! And thank you very much for the help!!!


StuartMW
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said by Finger2208:

Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers.

Weird. The Intel adapter didn't even show up in DM when I was in performance mode.

I'd switch to power saving mode, update the Intel driver, and switch back. That's how I did it.
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Finger2208

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said by StuartMW:

said by Finger2208:

Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers.

Weird. The Intel adapter didn't even show up in DM when I was in performance mode.

I'd switch to power saving mode, update the Intel driver, and switch back. That's how I did it.

Yeah, thus the confusion! Both Intel HD and Geforce GT330M show in DM, and both are showing to use the nVidia drivers. Only when I switch to power saver does the Intel load in the tray bar, which is how I found out what driver version the Intel adapter was using.

I'll update the driver tomorrow evening, and see if then WU offers me SP1. I'll let you know how it goes, and thanks a mil for the advice!! I've been head scratching this one for a couple of weeks now...

Finger2208

join:2001-04-07
Lindale, TX
reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

said by Finger2208:

Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers.

Weird. The Intel adapter didn't even show up in DM when I was in performance mode.

I'd switch to power saving mode, update the Intel driver, and switch back. That's how I did it.

Well, gave it a whirl tonight, and it was indeed a train wreck. I was able to get the Intel drivers on no prob, but it did trash the nVidia switchable drivers. Basically after reboot I had no nVidia CP, and the nVidia adapter was disabled in DM. Even after enabling the nVidia adapter it refused to load. I did roll back the driver on the Intel adapter, which fixed that issue.

The only real downer was that, unknown to me, WU started downloading SP1 as soon as the new driver was installed. And as soon as I rolled back, you guessed it....it stopped. So really kind of stuck where I was...


StuartMW
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Sounds to me like your system is borked. It may be fixable but that's up to you.
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rcdailey
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reply to Finger2208

Check to see if Acer has the Intel driver update for your system. Getting it from Intel might be okay, too. Nevermind, I see it was too late to avoid the train wreck. Maybe there was no good way to get the right updated driver(s) installed.
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Finger2208

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said by rcdailey:

Check to see if Acer has the Intel driver update for your system. Getting it from Intel might be okay, too. Nevermind, I see it was too late to avoid the train wreck. Maybe there was no good way to get the right updated driver(s) installed.

Actually that's where I got the updated Intel driver, from the Acer site listed for the laptop. It's odd, in DM it shows the Intel adapter using the nVidia drivers even when the laptop is in "power saver" mode. Only looking in the tray bar can you see what Intel driver version the driver is.

I was able to roll back the driver and get the laptop running as before. But that is also the state in which no SP1 via WU So right back where I started.


EGeezer
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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

Aside from a reboot or three. Plus it'll use some bandwidth while downloading the 537.8MB-903.2MB SP1 file.

I suppose this means I shouldn't use dialup to download it.
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StuartMW
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said by EGeezer:

I suppose this means I shouldn't use dialup to download it.

Depends. Do you want to block all phone calls for a while?
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