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StuartMW
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Re: Windows 7 SP1 to start rolling out on Windows Update

said by dave:

In Ye Olde Days, service packs came on shiny discs and there was not much churn in between service packs...

That was true before WinNT 4.0 but I'm pretty sure that had WU. I know I was on high-speed internet at that time.

I never actually used WinNT 3.51 (was on Win 3.1 at the time) but worked at a place where it was used. I have it in a VM now Even found all the (post SP5) patches for it.

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Ok, fired up a WinNT 4.0 VM and it didn't have WU built-in. That said if you had IE6 installed you got WU that way. It no longer works though.
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Finger2208

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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

said by Finger2208:

Just hoping I don't trash things in the process!

I had a switchable graphics box some years ago (not an Acer) and it had the same vendors (nVidia/Intel). The drivers are completely separate so I doubt you'll have any issues. I never did.

BTW you have to switch adapters to update the driver(s).

Okay, currently we run the laptop in "performance" mode...aka the nVidia adapter. Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers. Only when I switch to "power saver" mode does the Intel HD driver actually load and show up in the tray bar. So will I want to be using the nVidia drivers or the Intel when I install the newer Intel drivers? Sorry, just don't want to trash anything

Honestly, playing with the drivers on this box over the weekend seems like a piece of cake compared to doing the laptop and the "switchable" graphics...confusing!! And thank you very much for the help!!!


StuartMW
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said by Finger2208:

Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers.

Weird. The Intel adapter didn't even show up in DM when I was in performance mode.

I'd switch to power saving mode, update the Intel driver, and switch back. That's how I did it.
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Finger2208

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said by StuartMW:

said by Finger2208:

Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers.

Weird. The Intel adapter didn't even show up in DM when I was in performance mode.

I'd switch to power saving mode, update the Intel driver, and switch back. That's how I did it.

Yeah, thus the confusion! Both Intel HD and Geforce GT330M show in DM, and both are showing to use the nVidia drivers. Only when I switch to power saver does the Intel load in the tray bar, which is how I found out what driver version the Intel adapter was using.

I'll update the driver tomorrow evening, and see if then WU offers me SP1. I'll let you know how it goes, and thanks a mil for the advice!! I've been head scratching this one for a couple of weeks now...

Finger2208

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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

said by Finger2208:

Also, in Device Manager it also shows the Intel HD adapter as using the nVidia drivers...not the Intel drivers.

Weird. The Intel adapter didn't even show up in DM when I was in performance mode.

I'd switch to power saving mode, update the Intel driver, and switch back. That's how I did it.

Well, gave it a whirl tonight, and it was indeed a train wreck. I was able to get the Intel drivers on no prob, but it did trash the nVidia switchable drivers. Basically after reboot I had no nVidia CP, and the nVidia adapter was disabled in DM. Even after enabling the nVidia adapter it refused to load. I did roll back the driver on the Intel adapter, which fixed that issue.

The only real downer was that, unknown to me, WU started downloading SP1 as soon as the new driver was installed. And as soon as I rolled back, you guessed it....it stopped. So really kind of stuck where I was...


StuartMW
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Sounds to me like your system is borked. It may be fixable but that's up to you.
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Check to see if Acer has the Intel driver update for your system. Getting it from Intel might be okay, too. Nevermind, I see it was too late to avoid the train wreck. Maybe there was no good way to get the right updated driver(s) installed.
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Finger2208

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said by rcdailey:

Check to see if Acer has the Intel driver update for your system. Getting it from Intel might be okay, too. Nevermind, I see it was too late to avoid the train wreck. Maybe there was no good way to get the right updated driver(s) installed.

Actually that's where I got the updated Intel driver, from the Acer site listed for the laptop. It's odd, in DM it shows the Intel adapter using the nVidia drivers even when the laptop is in "power saver" mode. Only looking in the tray bar can you see what Intel driver version the driver is.

I was able to roll back the driver and get the laptop running as before. But that is also the state in which no SP1 via WU So right back where I started.


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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

Aside from a reboot or three. Plus it'll use some bandwidth while downloading the 537.8MB-903.2MB SP1 file.

I suppose this means I shouldn't use dialup to download it.
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StuartMW
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said by EGeezer:

I suppose this means I shouldn't use dialup to download it.

Depends. Do you want to block all phone calls for a while?
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That's the way I had my dialup set, but it occurs to me that if you also had a cellphone, you might be able to use call forwarding to send incoming calls to that. I can't test that to see how it works, however.
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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

said by EGeezer:

I suppose this means I shouldn't use dialup to download it.

Depends. Do you want to block all phone calls for a while?

Assuming it can stay online that long. Mine doesn't. I know EarthLink sets a 12 hours nonstop and then disconnects you automatically. It used to be unlimited. Then 24 hours, and now 12. Lame, I know!
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Finger2208

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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

Sounds to me like your system is borked. It may be fixable but that's up to you.

Just a follow up here. I was never able to quite figure out how to properly install the Intel driver without wrecking the nVidia drivers. Eventually bit the dust and went to the SP download site, not WU, and ran the full SP1 file (not saved to HDD). I was able to successfully get SP1 installed on the laptop doing this.

I guess the only downside to this is that I know we will not be able to switch the laptop into "power saver" mode because of the Intel drivers causing instability with apps such as Windows Live Mail, etc. But the up side is that I now have SP1 properly installed, everything runs super great using the "performance mode" nVidia drivers with no crashes, etc. And actually we have received several more updates via WU since installing SP1!

I have been pondering why either the laptop manufacturers, or nVidia for that matter, don't come up with a driver kit that will properly install both the Intel and nVidia drivers without wrecking one or the other. I guess that would be too simple!