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geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON
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·TekSavvy Cable

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reply to bjlockie

Re: CIK Telecom - 150M*/10M - Unlimited

said by bjlockie:

said by HTCC:

During the Morning and Daytime all is perfect 145 Mbps down and 9.8 Mbps up.

That is not perfect.

Because you're going to see the difference between 150mbps and 145mbps...

Being Chinese, maybe I can get some special Chinese offer with CIK Telecom. Time to do some research! =P

Hmm based on their site. It seems the lower tier plans are more "Expensive" then Start and Teksavvy. However they're unlimited for sure, as my friend is with CIK Tel and he gets billed what he pays. No over usage charges. I guess the higher cost of low tier Internet makes up for the lower price in high tier Internet. No one is going to download more than 200GB/month anyways. Well, anyone that has a life that is.

Note this is not saying you DSLR users don't have a life. Just saying that while they say it's unlimited, based on my experience with my friends and stuff, having 200GB of usage allowance is generally more than enough for all of us and our families. Well either way, you get the point I think.

dan mackay

join:2008-10-11
Barrie, ON

reply to HTCC
try the nexicom speedtest server


morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
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145/9.8 is great , My concern is other threads suggesting that this Fair usage policy is 2-300gigs. I would download more without a 150/10 connection let alone with..

Also I find there Techsupport Lines to be a Little strange Only offering 24/7 support in Cantonese or mandarin and other languages in short windows.
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HTCC

join:2013-03-18
Innisfil, ON

reply to HTCC
I'm getting much better results from other Speed Tests

I'm thinking that "www.speedtest.net" is working and congested

Up in the 80 with FrontierNet® Network Speed Test - Server Location: Chicago, IL

»chicago.il.speedtest.frontier.com/


levesque739

join:2008-05-13
Laval, QC

reply to morisato

said by morisato:

145/9.8 is great , My concern is other threads suggesting that this Fair usage policy is 2-300gigs. I would download more without a 150/10 connection let alone with..

From their FAQ, it doesn't seem like they impose any limits.

»www.ciktel.com/portal/Eng/faq.asp

Is CIK unlimited High Speed Internet download feature truly unlimited?

Yes. For CIK unlimited High Speed Internet plans, there are no restrictions on customer’s usage unless the activity endangers the CIK network.

morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
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Great News but they say its Subject to a fair usage policy which cannot be found anywhere to verify thats what leaves me most leary. who buys 150/10 internet to transfer 200gigs a month? At a certain Point you no longer get a ping benefit. and the internet is only so fast Drive your ferrari downtown toronto and magically who cares how fast it is.. Its going 50 like the Civic behind it. - Point being if i Signup to drive a ferrari and get the Proper Services and Such to allow me to drive it, I want to know ciktel is not going to Impound me for Letting the Beast Loose.
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levesque739

join:2008-05-13
Laval, QC

They also have this in the TOS. Someone downloading 24/7 at full speed would probably qualify as abnormal usage.

1.9 Unlimited downloading: CIK might provide unlimited internet upload/download with or without conditions which is based on residential customers normal usage, if abnormal usage or malicious activities detected which endangers CIK network, CIK might suspend customer’s service without notice. CIK unlimited internet downloading policy is also governed by CRTC rules and decision, government laws, and Rogers/Bell’s policy which if any change, CIK will notice customers by email 30 days in advance at least.



elwoodblues
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join:2006-08-30
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That leaves them an out to throttle you. My habits wouldn't change, but I'd get stuff faster, so I'd probably push 4tb/month


geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON
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said by morisato:

145/9.8 is great , My concern is other threads suggesting that this Fair usage policy is 2-300gigs. I would download more without a 150/10 connection let alone with..

Also I find there Techsupport Lines to be a Little strange Only offering 24/7 support in Cantonese or mandarin and other languages in short windows.

CIK caters to the Chinese market. Strange thing is, I've never seen them advertise on Fairchild or Ming Pao or any of the newspapers. But then I don't read Ming Pao lol.

said by elwoodblues:

That leaves them an out to throttle you. My habits wouldn't change, but I'd get stuff faster, so I'd probably push 4tb/month

So much porn?

morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
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said by geokilla:

said by morisato:

145/9.8 is great , My concern is other threads suggesting that this Fair usage policy is 2-300gigs. I would download more without a 150/10 connection let alone with..

Also I find there Techsupport Lines to be a Little strange Only offering 24/7 support in Cantonese or mandarin and other languages in short windows.

CIK caters to the Chinese market. Strange thing is, I've never seen them advertise on Fairchild or Ming Pao or any of the newspapers. But then I don't read Ming Pao lol.

said by elwoodblues:

That leaves them an out to throttle you. My habits wouldn't change, but I'd get stuff faster, so I'd probably push 4tb/month

So much porn?

Catering to the Chinese market is fine but they Operate in Canada, Which recognizes 2 languages as primary english and french and They Don't Provide Equal service,Discriminating against English Speaking folks, - i find this Disturbing.
Not to mention As a Company Alienating a market like that seems foolish.
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HTCC

join:2013-03-18
Innisfil, ON

HTCC Here,

All I speak is English and I have had no problem ordering and work with there Tech support. And as you can see from my 1st posting, all email from CIK have been in clear English.

Gord.



elwoodblues
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reply to geokilla

said by geokilla:

said by morisato:

145/9.8 is great , My concern is other threads suggesting that this Fair usage policy is 2-300gigs. I would download more without a 150/10 connection let alone with..

Also I find there Techsupport Lines to be a Little strange Only offering 24/7 support in Cantonese or mandarin and other languages in short windows.

CIK caters to the Chinese market. Strange thing is, I've never seen them advertise on Fairchild or Ming Pao or any of the newspapers. But then I don't read Ming Pao lol.

said by elwoodblues:

That leaves them an out to throttle you. My habits wouldn't change, but I'd get stuff faster, so I'd probably push 4tb/month

So much porn?

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XNemesis

join:2002-11-16
Kitchener, ON
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reply to HTCC
I've a DCM475 Modem on 2.08 Firmware that I got from TSI. I'm not with any cable provider at the moment so it seems from their application page, that I need to be, in order to use my own modem. Is this the case, or will I Need to purchase their modem instead for the 150/10 tier?


Satya

join:2011-09-11
Mississauga, ON
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reply to HTCC
CIK provides a standard 30 day warranty policy for all monthly subscription customers. For whatever reason, service can canceled

"canceled"..you gotta be kidding me..what a joke? There is a reason why noone has heard about them because they are probably like what distributel was long time ago when they started with 3web lol

you are telling me that with wholesale rates going up for rogers for 150/10 and with their unlimited being 170+ and teksavvy at 210..an ISP comes up with 99 a month lol :P



Gone
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Fort Erie, ON
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said by Satya:

you are telling me that with wholesale rates going up for rogers for 150/10 and with their unlimited being 170+ and teksavvy at 210..an ISP comes up with 99 a month lol :P

Yes, that's exactly what they're telling you. CIK is employing traffic management to keep down peak-time costs, which they pass on to their customers. With Teksavvy and Start you will most likely get 150 at all hours of the day. With CIK it will slow down during peak times.

I'm surprised more providers haven't gone this route.

Satya

join:2011-09-11
Mississauga, ON
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·Distributel Cable

define peak times..is it 4-12? 3-12? 12-12? 5-12? 6-2? further on how much would they limit you to? 35mbps ? 25mbps? because if the speeds are 150+ only after 12 am at night till upto 8-9 am then it is better to get teksavvy for 89.99 a month..get 150/10 all the time with 300GB and use the 2-8 am for heavy downloading..these days ftp clients , torrent clients..all have time management and auto queue startups.


HTCC

join:2013-03-18
Innisfil, ON

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reply to Satya
I was talking to my Buddy who works for "Profit guide" - profitguide.com/ - Rogers Publishing

He just told me that they interviewed Jordan Deng CEO of CIK last week for fast growing 500 Canadian company of 2013 rankings

He says the results to be Published on June 6th.



Gone
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reply to Satya

said by Satya:

define peak times..is it 4-12? 3-12? 12-12? 5-12? 6-2? further on how much would they limit you to? 35mbps ? 25mbps? because if the speeds are 150+ only after 12 am at night till upto 8-9 am then it is better to get teksavvy for 89.99 a month..get 150/10 all the time with 300GB and use the 2-8 am for heavy downloading..these days ftp clients , torrent clients..all have time management and auto queue startups.

Who knows. All I know is that North Americans are really the only people in the entire world who expect and demand peak performance out of their Internet connection at all hours of the day. It is because of people who whine and complain about 145Mbit/s instead of 150 at 7PM in the evening that networks need to overbuild and charge customers an arm and a leg for service.

If we were over in Europe, we would not be having this conversation. Let's just say that CIK has taken the European approach rather than the North American one.

rednekcowboy

join:2012-03-21
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said by Gone:

said by Satya:

define peak times..is it 4-12? 3-12? 12-12? 5-12? 6-2? further on how much would they limit you to? 35mbps ? 25mbps? because if the speeds are 150+ only after 12 am at night till upto 8-9 am then it is better to get teksavvy for 89.99 a month..get 150/10 all the time with 300GB and use the 2-8 am for heavy downloading..these days ftp clients , torrent clients..all have time management and auto queue startups.

Who knows. All I know is that North Americans are really the only people in the entire world who expect and demand peak performance out of their Internet connection at all hours of the day. It is because of people who whine and complain about 145Mbit/s instead of 150 at 7PM in the evening that networks need to overbuild and charge customers an arm and a leg for service.

If we were over in Europe, we would not be having this conversation. Let's just say that CIK has taken the European approach rather than the North American one.

Or here's a thought. Instead of selling a service you know you can't possibly provide, how about sell a 100 Mbps 24/7? I know, it makes too much sense to actually be implemented...That and then an ISP can't say "Oh look, we can provide 150 Mbps!!"

I would much rather pay for a set speed and get the speed that I'm paying for 24/7 than pay for a crippled package and only receive the speed I'm paying for half the time.....but that's me and this is why it's good there's competition.

darrylr

join:2003-02-10
Nepean, ON

I hope you dont mean non stop usage. Do ya want to pay the isp cost for that 24/7 100Mb/sec service? It's a lot more than 39.95 a month.

With the current model it all comes down to peak usage so i suspect most isps will have to consider throttling more in prime time if services like 150Mb are sold to lots of customers.

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