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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

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[OOL] What speed tier increases would you like to see?

Considering the story on the home page about Comcast's speed increases - »Comcast Speed Increases Hit California as well as Fios...it seems Cablevision really needs to catch up to the others in bumping up their speed tiers. Yes Comcast doesn't directly compete against Cablevision but still...their speed tiers are looking a bit stagnant by comparison. Since they've gone all digital and have 8 downstream channels, they just need to get working on bonding upstream channels...but this is how I'd like it atleast below.

I recommend the base tier of 15/2 get moved up to atleast Boost Classic of 30/5 or up to 40/10, Boost Plus to 65 to 75/15 and Ultra to 105/20 to 110/25.

JoeSchmoe007
Premium
join:2003-01-19
Brooklyn, NY
I am on 15/2 (internet only) and all I want is price decrease of non-promotional offer for internet only (which now is $55 if I am not mistaken). I don't need anymore speed (well, higher upload would be nice but not at the cost of price increase).

UnknownBeing

join:2012-12-30
Hopewell Junction, NY
reply to kickass69
I'd love to see Boost Plus to to 85/20. I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
reply to kickass69
Doubtful we'll see any economy tier but as suggested
10/2 new cheaper tier
15/2 -> 30/5 new ool regular
50/8 -> 75/25 new boost plus
Don't care about ultra

With that said I would stay with ool regular 30/5

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
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reply to kickass69
If I was to guess, these 30 Mbps base tier suggestions are unlikely as it would likely decrease Boost Plus revenue. I wouldn't expect a grand re-tiering until we have upstream bonding so there is more upload capacity. If there was an increase, it would probably be at most 20 or 25 down with 4 up. Provision speed would probably be about another 5 Mbps if they keep up the current level of overprovisioning.

I don't "predict" this happening though as I said above due to current upload constraints. Most of these would result in upload being completely hosed by less than 2 full non-ultra customers uploading to full extent.


SHoTTa35

@optonline.net
I've said before that standard tier could jump to 20/5 with Boost+ going to 75/15 and Ultra can do 150/20. Probably dreaming a bit too much but hey, at least i'd feel better about paying $70/month for internet alone! (Boost+ no promo anymore because AT&T is not competition around here - Sure I could drop CV and get my "Blazing Fast" 15-18Mbps speeds MAX from AT&T for a nice $45+Tax. Great! )

Rojo

join:2009-04-14
New York, NY
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reply to UnknownBeing
said by UnknownBeing:

I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

Which modem do you have?


jaa
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join:2000-06-13
kudos:2
reply to kickass69
I'd prefer a price decrease.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
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reply to Rojo
said by Rojo:

said by UnknownBeing:

I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

Which modem do you have?

Maybe he has an underperforming ultra account

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
kudos:3
75 Mbps is not possible with Boost Plus. Either you have ultra or more likely a misreporting speed test.

Rojo

join:2009-04-14
New York, NY
kudos:1
reply to dm145
Is it possible to overclock a modem?

max pl

join:2009-03-22
Hyde Park, NY
reply to kickass69
i'm at 36/5 with boost classic now so i'd be happy with 50 or 60 and 10 upload.

it's been a while since we got speed increases so i hope it happens soon.


MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

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reply to jaa
said by jaa:

I'd prefer a price decrease.

I'll take price not-increase just as well.
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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Rojo
said by Rojo:

Is it possible to overclock a modem?

Yes, but a few years ago kids were doing that, got cough by FBI and are now in jail or or had to pay large fines.
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UnknownBeing

join:2012-12-30
Hopewell Junction, NY
reply to Rojo
said by Rojo:

said by UnknownBeing:

I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

Which modem do you have?

Arris modem, but the fiber breaks off at the telephone pole that goes straight to my house and not many people are on it.


jaa
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reply to Rojo
said by Rojo:

Is it possible to overclock a modem?

Get a power supply that delivers double the voltage to the modem - see if that makes it run twice as fast. I plugged my computer into 220, and it seemed to be faster.
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weird

@optonline.net
reply to UnknownBeing
said by UnknownBeing:

said by Rojo:

said by UnknownBeing:

I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

Which modem do you have?

Arris modem, but the fiber breaks off at the telephone pole that goes straight to my house and not many people are on it.

That doesn't sound right.

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1
reply to UnknownBeing
said by UnknownBeing:

said by Rojo:

said by UnknownBeing:

I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

Which modem do you have?

Arris modem, but the fiber breaks off at the telephone pole that goes straight to my house and not many people are on it.

Your house has a coax cable that goes to a tap on the pole. Then usually you have a coax run that goes to a fiber node. That fiber node usually runs 250 - 500 houses.

Cablevision doesn't use fiber to the premises for residential services.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
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reply to UnknownBeing
said by UnknownBeing:

I'd love to see Boost Plus to to 85/20. I'm already getting around 75 with boost plus.

Please post speedtest results

UnknownBeing

join:2012-12-30
Hopewell Junction, NY
This was on a crappy single core IBM t41 so results aren't so good. I normally see around 70. I've only seen 75 about two or so times.


SHoTTa35

@kfvaluation.com

Crappy single core T41!!!??? I loved that machine! Still got one in my closet and a T42 also, never got a T43. T60, T61 and now T410s, maybe jumping on the T431s when it comes out



I'm definitely jealous then. I get a MAX of 59Mbps all the time no matter which test I run.

UnknownBeing

join:2012-12-30
Hopewell Junction, NY
said by SHoTTa35 :

Crappy single core T41!

Love this thing, I can't believe that this thing is still chugging along!


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
reply to majortom1029
Eventually Cablevision will have to go FTTH to keep up with new applications that require more bandwidth now and in the future.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
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reply to UnknownBeing
said by UnknownBeing:

This was on a crappy single core IBM t41 so results aren't so good. I normally see around 70. I've only seen 75 about two or so times.

In terms of actual download speed the the processor has virtually zero effect on download speed. The speed of your connection and even the performance of your hard drive will have more effect.

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1
reply to kickass69
said by kickass69:

Eventually Cablevision will have to go FTTH to keep up with new applications that require more bandwidth now and in the future.

Cable companies still have a long while till that is needed. Docsis 3.1 will allow 10gigabit/10gigabit. Add in things like switching to all ip and you will see that cable companies have a long way till they have to go to ftth.

10 gig a node (if a node is 250 houses) all 40/40 connections . if you split that node that would allow 75/75 connections to every home .

Verizon stopped there ftth because of fewer subscribers then they that. google fiber is only 1 area of the country.

UnknownBeing

join:2012-12-30
Hopewell Junction, NY
reply to kickass69
I just want to see them work on upload speeds.


blohner

join:2002-06-26
Cortlandt Manor, NY
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reply to majortom1029
You can't do the upload without a major rebuild since the return is currently way to small... Every single amp and splitter in the plant and customer homes would need to be replaced... Before doing that you may as well look at FTTH - for arial the investment level won't be much different...
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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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said by blohner:

You can't do the upload without a major rebuild since the return is currently way to small... Every single amp and splitter in the plant and customer homes would need to be replaced... Before doing that you may as well look at FTTH - for arial the investment level won't be much different...

Replacing amps and splitters is still WAY cheaper then rewiring every pole and every house and adding onts to every house.

also docsis 3.1 is adding things like ofdm and doing away with those 6 and 8mhz channels.

I do not see why splitters and amps have to be replaced if they are not using anything aabove 850mhz

Verizon stated it costs them 3k to wire each house for fios. Times that by 3 million customers and that's a HUGE price tag. Not including replacing the miles of fiber. Cable can replace amps and splitters as people order the new tiers that dcosis 3.1 enables.


blohner

join:2002-06-26
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To get 10gbit on the return the frequency ranges need to shift - e.g. the return needs to be much wider than today....
I don't disagree on the 'cheaper' aspect... The 'much cheaper' holds true until you take into account bandwidth requirements for 3D HD channels etc... at that point you'll likely need to bring the plant form 850mhz to 2ghz - and need to replace coax as well...
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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1
said by blohner:

To get 10gbit on the return the frequency ranges need to shift - e.g. the return needs to be much wider than today....
I don't disagree on the 'cheaper' aspect... The 'much cheaper' holds true until you take into account bandwidth requirements for 3D HD channels etc... at that point you'll likely need to bring the plant form 850mhz to 2ghz - and need to replace coax as well...

Are you taking into account changing over to all ip and mpeg 4?