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billydunwood

join:2008-04-23
united state
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reply to brianiscool

Re: My Company Found Out

said by brianiscool:

Nope it is my first language. IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

so when you go to Command Prompt or Run, you don't need to spell things correctly? Last I checked neither of them have auto correct.
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Archivis
Your Daddy
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join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:18

reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

What exactly is it that you do in IT? If you don't need to learn how to spell or have good grammar, then you're not doing anything significant.

You need good spelling, good grammar, and the ability to communicate your thoughts clearly in order to have a successful IT career. Senior IT staff are responsible for making recommendations on hardware and software that results in millions of dollars in purchasing, support, staffing, and other strategy.
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A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -MLK


CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

Nope it is my first language. IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

Having been in the industry for 10+ years - you are incorrect.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain

guppy_fish
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join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1
Reviews:
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reply to brianiscool
So you think your about to be hired for 17K more a year and haven't even had an interview in person .. at a minimum that seems optimistic to think only you would be considered?

Hey best of luck, next time it would be best to not talk about the new job until you have it in writing ..



Archivis
Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:18

You're right. A lot of things don't add up.


AsherN

join:2010-08-23
Thornhill, ON

reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

I do not like leaving my employer out in the dark.

Fundamental mistake.

AsherN

join:2010-08-23
Thornhill, ON

reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

Nope it is my first language. IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

Unless you want to be a help desk jockey all your life, you are totally wrong.


Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI

reply to guppy_fish

said by guppy_fish:

Hey best of luck, next time it would be best to not talk about the new job until you have it in writing ..

That's still too soon, in the at will employment world we live it. Until you are actually working there it is too soon.

When you have a written job offer you can give your current employer an opportunity to match or improve upon, if you desire. However unless you are so important to the company that it will fold without you, I don't recommend doing this more than once. Because if it happens too frequently you may find your job being posted as open.

Company loyalty is a long past value, unfortunately, both to the company and from the company.
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“Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.” ¯ Robert A. Heinlein


stevek1949
We're not in Kansas anymore

join:2002-11-13
Virginia Beach, VA

reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

Nope it is my first language. IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

I sure hope that your resume doesn't have the same "attitude". If I see spelling or grammar issues on a resume, it is automatically put in File 13.

AsherN

join:2010-08-23
Thornhill, ON

said by stevek1949:

said by brianiscool:

Nope it is my first language. IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

I sure hope that your resume doesn't have the same "attitude". If I see spelling or grammar issues on a resume, it is automatically put in File 13.

Exactly. When your resume lands on my desk, you have 10 seconds. My first cut through the pile is not to identify the potential candidates, it's to eliminate. Non professional email address, gone. at the first spelling or grammatical mistake, gone.


Maven
Premium
join:2002-03-12
Canada

said by AsherN:

Non professional email address, gone.

What would you consider professional?


stevek1949
We're not in Kansas anymore

join:2002-11-13
Virginia Beach, VA

said by Maven:

said by AsherN:

Non professional email address, gone.

What would you consider professional?

Hotmail, Google, Yahoo type of throw-away accounts would be accounts that would lead me to question the source. I understand that most cable ISPs allow multiple email addresses, but If I saw something like CPUboss@hotmail.com it would raise a red flag.

H_T_R_N
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join:2011-12-06
Valencia, PA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Armstrong Zoom ..

Why? I have had my gmail and hotmail address from the first day you could get one. Not everyone has their own domain or the time to play with migrating from one ISP provided address to another. A gmail address is not a reason to shit can a resume.



Msradell
P.E.
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join:2008-12-25
Louisville, KY
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·AT&T U-Verse

said by H_T_R_N:

Why? I have had my gmail and hotmail address from the first day you could get one. Not everyone has their own domain or the time to play with migrating from one ISP provided address to another. A gmail address is not a reason to shit can a resume.

I personally don't think the ISP service in the email address should ever be considered to be something detrimental. There are many reasons to use different ISPs such as having an address for a long time, or is that it's free or whatever. On the other hand, the actual username should be part of the consideration. That's something that you specifically choose to reflect who you are. Obviously your actual name or initials included in it reflect much better than something like "Joesbeer" or something along these lines.


alg
Passionately apathetic
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join:2001-04-10
Houston, TX
kudos:3

reply to H_T_R_N
I was going to mention the same. To me, simply saying that @gmail or @hotmail is unprofessional is very poor form as these tend to be a person's permanent email address. Personally, I've had my gmail account since 2004 (which also marked the year I started college) and it has been my "professional" account ever since. The alternative would've been about 7 or 8 addresses from university, work, and about three ISPs. Of course, my address is myname@gmail.com... I would absolutely not recommend putting something like hunglikeahorse@gmail.com on my résumé.
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This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.



Archivis
Your Daddy
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join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:18

reply to stevek1949

said by stevek1949:

Hotmail, Google, Yahoo type of throw-away accounts would be accounts that would lead me to question the source. I understand that most cable ISPs allow multiple email addresses, but If I saw something like CPUboss@hotmail.com it would raise a red flag.

You'd really write off a gmail account? That's a new one. Been using that for the last five jobs I've had.
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A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -MLK


Grail Knight
Qui audet adipiscitur
Premium
join:2003-05-31
Valhalla
kudos:6
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

reply to brianiscool
Your company either found out because you ran your mouth to your buddies at work or the potential hire called your HR Dept. and inquired about you.

As for the fallacy of not having to be able to spell to work in IT good luck with that.

I certainly hope you had someone either proof your resume or had a professional do it for you and I am not talking running it though the Word or OpenOffice spelling/grammar check.

As your company knows about your searching for work odds are good if you stay the trust level will drop as well as any smart company will have their HR Dept. start looking for your replacement leaving you SOL. Good luck tho.
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"One conspiracy tale deserves another."



mocycler
Premium
join:2001-01-22
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

Nope it is my first language. IT guys do not need to learn to spell or have good grammar.

You are 100% correct. That's why your replacement will be some guy on a cube farm in India. And he won't have an attitude, either.

The excuse for not making you "permit" smells real bad. If they truly wanted to keep you they would not be fiddle-dicking around like this.

My gut says you overplayed your hand or somehow screwed up your own deal; now they are having second thoughts about the counteroffer and are hoping you just leave.


signmeuptoo
Love those still alive
Premium
join:2001-11-22
NanoParticle
kudos:4

reply to brianiscool
Is he using the term "permit" instead of "permanent"? Wow, and he's worth being payed 20 grand more? I need to stop selling myself short if this is what the job pool is like out there!


H_T_R_N
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join:2011-12-06
Valencia, PA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Armstrong Zoom ..

reply to Msradell

said by Msradell:

the actual username should be part of the consideration. That's something that you specifically choose to reflect who you are. Obviously your actual name or initials included in it reflect much better than something like "Joesbeer" or something along these lines.

That I agree with!

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