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chamberc
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Re: Can she pay $222,000? And what if she can't?

said by Crookshanks:

said by Snakeoil:

She can refuse to pay it, do her jail time for refusing a court order [I think she'd get jail time for refusing to pay].

We don't have debtor's prisons in the United States.

Sad but true. It would fix a lot of problems if we could throw people in jail for being on welfare for too long, or for failure to pay bills.

Rambo76098
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Oh yeah, take them from getting payments they have to apply for, to forcibly covering their housing, meals, etc.

More than willing to bet a year of welfare costs less than a year of jail.
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said by chamberc:

Sad but true. It would fix a lot of problems if we could throw people in jail for being on welfare for too long, or for failure to pay bills.

Bankruptcy as a legal procedure goes all the way back to the beginning of the Republic. It encourages entrepreneurs to take risks, because the worst case scenario from failure is a black mark on your credit report for ten years. It allows for an out from unpredictable life events (uninsured medical expenses) that would otherwise destroy your life.

Saying we should throw people in jail for not paying their bills is absurd.
averagedude
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said by chamberc:

said by Crookshanks:

said by Snakeoil:

She can refuse to pay it, do her jail time for refusing a court order [I think she'd get jail time for refusing to pay].

We don't have debtor's prisons in the United States.

Sad but true. It would fix a lot of problems if we could throw people in jail for being on welfare for too long, or for failure to pay bills.

How would "throw(ing) people in jail for being on welfare for too long" fix any problem?
It would seem to me welfare is alot cheaper than jail when the tax payer footing the bill?
Putting a non-violent and non-criminal in jail for a debt only hurts taxpayers.
With your idea, we the tax payers would be paying (most likely "private" jails AKA big company's) for housing, food, and medical care VS. money spent on local private housing, local grocery stores for food, and local doctors for medical needs.
Only big business wins if everyone is jailed.

There are many issues on why people are on welfare for extended times. For example, you would be for throwing US Military Veterans in jail because they had the misfortune to have traumatic brain injuries or have had their limbs blown off and will need welfare for the rest of their lives? Yea, its a little more complicated than just 144 characters.
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said by chamberc:

said by Crookshanks:

said by Snakeoil:

She can refuse to pay it, do her jail time for refusing a court order [I think she'd get jail time for refusing to pay].

We don't have debtor's prisons in the United States.

Sad but true. It would fix a lot of problems if we could throw people in jail for being on welfare for too long, or for failure to pay bills.

how would this solve anything?

Also if you want to throw people in jail over debt, we jail all of wall street. they traded and sold debt like it was pork futures and crashed the economy and what did they get? a bailout and the ability to still pull the strings on their golden parachutes.

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Not playin on that bet but the problem is, it shouldn't. The prison jail system well in some places and ways really good serving a purpose that ummm wouldn't be possible otherwise. Referring to prison in always thinking Nevada but out there in the desert where y'know certain kinds of people are sent cause well for example there are just some things a 1 yr old can't stop another from doing to them.

Outside of that most lifer wardens are running their own country inside those walls. Most running even the line of business that the inmates are incarcerated for in the first place but they are special cause they know all the system. If most had even a clue of it. Probably be mass suicides worldwide. So try and remember to make a if even small point of noticing something good to another. Probably even help ya temporarily forget half the world finds literally a couple of newborns in garbage cans daily since in some countries they are breeders but as our past for boys but not thinking back then if was a girl meant throwaway. last two i heard of one was still alive that evening so probably OK. the other DOA so probably shes in better hands than the other one. Well all I'm off. As if that isn't obvious huh lmao. Gonna go to the bay and d/l both cds of Garage Band Inc. make second copy mail it to Mr. Dickhead lol