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peterboro
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Peterborough residents clamp down on driving & cell phones

That's right. Don't come here and yap on your cell phone or vigilantes will threaten to kill you!

Utter threats arrest:

On March 7, at approximately 1:30 p.m. the accused, a 33-year-old male, reportedly saw the victim, a 30-year-old male, driving out of the parking lot of Charlotte Mews while talking on his cellphone. The victim told police that while he was stopped in his vehicle on the sidewalk before exiting the parking lot the accused approached his vehicle and began taking down his license plate and berating him for using his cellphone. During that time the victim reported that the accused threatened him. Kelly David Ashton, 33, of Highway 7 East, is charged with uttering threats to cause death or bodily harm. Ashton was released from custody and is scheduled to appear in court on March 28.

»www.mykawartha.com/news/article/···d-police



OverrRyde

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Driver should also be accused.

I find driving while using your cell phone far worse that the guy threatening to kill him or to do bodily harm. The driver is essentially in the same boat of possibly causing bodily harm or death by using his cell phone.



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said by OverrRyde:

The driver is essentially in the same boat of possibly causing bodily harm or death by using his cell phone.

Except for the fact that one person is actually doing harm and the other person is exaggerated to potentially cause harm.

So, really, they're not at all in the same boat.


koira
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we need more of this, despite the laws in place these phone abusers are everywhere


peterboro
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said by koira:

we need more of this, despite the laws in place these phone abusers are everywhere

What we need are citizen action groups that congregate at busy intersections with pitch forks threatening to kill any drivers using a cell phone.


OverrRyde

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said by urbanriot:

said by OverrRyde:

The driver is essentially in the same boat of possibly causing bodily harm or death by using his cell phone.

Except for the fact that one person is actually doing harm and the other person is exaggerated to potentially cause harm.

So, really, they're not at all in the same boat.

You're being picky!

Nobody has actually done any harm in both cases, one verbally said "ill kill you" (i guess)! and the other could potentially kill you, but hasnt, yet.

Either way, both are illegal


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said by peterboro:

said by koira:

we need more of this, despite the laws in place these phone abusers are everywhere

What we need are citizen action groups that congregate at busy intersections with pitch forks threatening to kill any drivers using a cell phone.

I find that idea sexually stimulating, I should have you arrested for making me feel indecent.
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peterboro
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said by Anav:

I find that idea sexually stimulating,

Which part, the giving or receiving a pitch fork? Just curious as to the strange sexual fetishes of others.


DKS
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Welcome to Owen Sound.


loosedobbs

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said by DKS:

Welcome to Owen Sound.

LOL. Good one.

Are these for Driver from Toronto?

If the driver kills somebody then that person definitely get to meet him.


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said by peterboro:

What we need are citizen action groups that congregate at busy intersections with pitch forks threatening to kill any drivers using a cell phone.

No, what we need are rural Ontarians with pickup trucks who are capable of running small Japanese compacts off the road patrolling the QEW and 401 for Torontoids sitting in the left lane holding up traffic while oblivious to what's going on around them. Being thrown into the median or into the ditch a few times will cause them to wake up and realize that we're not going to take that kind of bullshit anymore.


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said by OverrRyde:

I find driving while using your cell phone far worse that the guy threatening to kill him or to do bodily harm.

In that case, I highly recommend that you, personally, not drive while using your cell phone.

said by koira:

we need more of this, despite the laws in place these phone abusers are everywhere

And what we need less of, is more silly threads on the alleged perils of cell phones in cars. We've already had at least two, probably more.

I suggest that as soon as the do-gooder vigilantes here have achieved 40 years of totally accident-free driving as I have -- in mostly busy urban areas -- then they can feel free to start a thread about how to drive safely. Otherwise, kids, keeps your eyes on the road, your cellphones in your pockets, and your business of your own minding.
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OverrRyde

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said by Wolfie00:

said by OverrRyde:

I find driving while using your cell phone far worse that the guy threatening to kill him or to do bodily harm.

In that case, I highly recommend that you, personally, not drive while using your cell phone.

said by koira:

we need more of this, despite the laws in place these phone abusers are everywhere

And what we need less of, is more silly threads on the alleged perils of cell phones in cars. We've already had at least two, probably more.

I suggest that as soon as the do-gooder vigilantes here have achieved 40 years of totally accident-free driving as I have -- in mostly busy urban areas -- then they can feel free to start a thread about how to drive safely. Otherwise, kids, keeps your eyes on the road, your cellphones in your pockets, and your business of your own minding.

Oh come on Wolfie! Where's the "Pepperidge farm remembers" reference? I was waiting for that too...

I do not drive while using my cell phone, that's what bluetooth is for, and that's if i even get a call! I barely used my phone as it is to talk, even less in the car!

I doubt that the guy doing the vigilante work would have had a problem if he was on bluetooth. He probably was yapping away and not paying attention and this is what the dude had an issue with.


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said by DKS:

Welcome to Owen Sound.

HAHAHAHA... good one
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said by OverrRyde:

I do not drive while using my cell phone, that's what bluetooth is for

One phrase you say you don't use your phone, and then in the next phrase you say you do. Well played.


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said by OverrRyde:

He probably was yapping away and not paying attention and this is what the dude had an issue with.

There are laws to deal with driving carelessly or without due care and attention. Would your hero -- or the average citizen -- have been equally enraged and apoplectic if the guy pulling out of the parking lot had been looking at a map (which is a hell of a lot more dangerous)? I doubt it. The disciples of the new vigilantism are only enraged by the appropriately proscribed villains.


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said by Gone:

said by OverrRyde:

I do not drive while using my cell phone, that's what bluetooth is for

One phrase you say you don't use your phone, and then in the next phrase you say you do. Well played.

How so? I don't touch my cell phone when i'm in my car that's equipped with a bluetooth capabable head unit.

Let me rephrase that for you: i do not physically touch my cell phone in order to make a call when in my vehicle. I press a button on my steering wheel and speak out a voice command to dial a phone # or name in contact for me.

Better?


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Nope, not better.

It doesn't matter if you are holding the phone in your hand or talking on it through a "bluetooth", you're still using your phone. Whether you are physically touching it or not is irrelevant.

That's why this whole idea that somehow not having the thing in your hand is a load of bullshit. The same thought and energy you put into the conversation happens regardless of where the sound is coming from. Banning them outright entirely would an ounce less of hypocrisy, but at that point they may as well ban holding a conversation with a passenger or drinking a coffee while driving, too.



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said by Wolfie00:

said by OverrRyde:

I find driving while using your cell phone far worse that the guy threatening to kill him or to do bodily harm.

In that case, I highly recommend that you, personally, not drive while using your cell phone.

said by koira:

we need more of this, despite the laws in place these phone abusers are everywhere

And what we need less of, is more silly threads on the alleged perils of cell phones in cars. We've already had at least two, probably more.

I suggest that as soon as the do-gooder vigilantes here have achieved 40 years of totally accident-free driving as I have -- in mostly busy urban areas -- then they can feel free to start a thread about how to drive safely. Otherwise, kids, keeps your eyes on the road, your cellphones in your pockets, and your business of your own minding.

ok I will qualify my rant having lived on the west side of the COTU * all my life and have 40 years of wreck free as well. I don't phone or text when driving.
* COTU(r) = center of the universe (R) 2013 snafu


Wolfie00
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said by OverrRyde:

Better?

Nope. Not better at all. Not unless you're telling us that when on your Bluetooth handsfree gadget, you hear that you have a major business crisis, or your kid has just been expelled from school, or you get into a huge potentially relationship-ending argument with your spouse, that you will continue to be Mr. Safety Sam 100% Safe Driver without any distraction whatsoever. Because after all, you have Bluetooth, you don't need to use one hand to hold a phone to your ear, so everything must be A-OK and there's no risk of being even the tiniest bit distracted, right?


koira
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said by DKS:

Welcome to Owen Sound.

need to hack the 401 CMS signs and post that up

Robrr

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said by Gone:

Nope, not better.

It doesn't matter if you are holding the phone in your hand or talking on it through a "bluetooth", you're still using your phone. Whether you are physically touching it or not is irrelevant.

That's why this whole idea that somehow not having the thing in your hand is a load of bullshit. The same thought and energy you put into the conversation happens regardless of where the sound is coming from. Banning them outright entirely would an ounce less of hypocrisy, but at that point they may as well ban holding a conversation with a passenger or drinking a coffee while driving, too.

I fully agree with you on this however there is one problem I see. When your driving near someone with a phone in their hand, how do you differentiate talking vs. texting at a glance.

I know people who will generally hold their phone in their hand while driving and turn on the speakerphone. Some random person driving past them may just assume they are texting when in fact they are having a phone conversation.

Unless you can be certain at a glance the person is talking and not texting, you have to assume the worse case.


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Well, people typically don't hold their phone to their head when texting. Just sayin.



DKS
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said by koira:

said by DKS:

Welcome to Owen Sound.

need to hack the 401 CMS signs and post that up

If you do, I want a picture.
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DKS
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said by Gone:

said by peterboro:

What we need are citizen action groups that congregate at busy intersections with pitch forks threatening to kill any drivers using a cell phone.

No, what we need are rural Ontarians with pickup trucks who are capable of running small Japanese compacts off the road patrolling the QEW and 401 for Torontoids sitting in the left lane holding up traffic while oblivious to what's going on around them. Being thrown into the median or into the ditch a few times will cause them to wake up and realize that we're not going to take that kind of bullshit anymore.

Reporting for duty.
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Wolfie00
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said by Gone:

Well, people typically don't hold their phone to their head when texting. Just sayin.

Just in case, the law is worded to cover the extremely myopic fish-aliens from the planet Gazoomba who have their eyes on the sides of their heads!

(Also, their unique anatomy has put their brains in their assholes, which is why it's suspected that they're the ones who passed some of these laws.)


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Need laws to protect people from themselves. :/

Too bad I can multitask and drive stick, yet not allowed.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqTOV_2awU


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said by Gone:

No, what we need are rural Ontarians with pickup trucks who are capable of running small Japanese compacts off the road patrolling the QEW and 401 for Torontoids sitting in the left lane holding up traffic while oblivious to what's going on around them.

Oh, man, drive around the Pen Centre in St. Catharines and I guarantee you that you'll see someone in their late teens or early 20's holding up traffic while they're texting with their phone held so low they're not paying attention to what's in front of them... I've seen it every time I've been down there, enough that it's stuck in my head now.


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To which, if they weren't so terrified to hide the phone so low maybe things wouldn't be so bad...

... but in all honesty, traffic in that part of the city (along with Fourth Avenue) is so bad that not a single person could have a phone with them in their car and it would still be a clusterfuck to drive through.


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said by urbanriot:

Oh, man, drive around the Pen Centre in St. Catharines and I guarantee you that you'll see someone in their late teens or early 20's holding up traffic while they're texting with their phone held so low they're not paying attention to what's in front of them...

Yet if you blow your horn for them to get going you get the finger from the little dipshits.