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Snuffbox
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join:2011-04-15
Milwaukee, WI
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reply to BG5150

Re: Discrepancy between noxxic and icy veins...who to trust?!!

Spirit's only good for Arms, terrible for Fury.


Lothario

join:2009-09-30
Ottawa, ON
Spirit gives you less rage as you tend to be more of a flower picker.


Ramikor

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reply to Snuffbox
said by Snuffbox:

Historically socket bonuses are ignored unless it's a main stat.

This is a philosophy that needs to be re-evaluated because of reforging. The socket by itself may not yield something useful, but if, for example, the bonus is hit or expertise, the socket bonus might allow you not to reforge some other stat (or reforge less of some other stat) to make the caps; which you might then be able to reforge into a very beneficial stat. However, it is the kind of think that is really gear specific becaus of the reforging limitations (i.e. you can't reforge to a stat the gear already has).


Ramikor

@comcastbusiness.net
reply to BG5150
said by BG5150:

On my fury warrior, I gemmed spirit.

Was that bad?

Gem for intel, then you'll be able to figure it out.


stonhinge
Premium
join:2003-07-28
Topeka, KS
reply to Ramikor
Not so much because of reforging, but because MoP gems have 2x the amount of secondary stats than primary stats. You're no longer comparing 160 str + socket vs 160 crit + socket, but 160 str vs 320 crit.

It can occasionally be worth using orange/purple gems in red sockets, depending on socket bonus. And for prismatic sockets (BS/belt/Eye of Black Prince) it's not always a red gem going in the socket.
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Ramikor

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I don't disagree - I'm just saying because of reforging you may be able to turn that socket bonus from a non-useful stat to a useful stat, particularly if that socket bonus allows you to cap a stat. It can be difficult to figure out though, because there is a domino effect. Maybe that hit bonus, combined with reforging haste to hit on other gear, allows you to reforge hit to crit on some other piece that you couldn't before because you needed it to make the cap. It just depends on what you can reforge on each piece, and how the stat weights / total stats work out. Because of the many possible reforging combinations, figuring out whether you can do so manually can be difficult.


Redawg81
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join:2001-08-04
Jacksonville, FL
kudos:2
reply to Pollux7777
I say sim it and find out first hand!!!

Just sayin

R3d

BG5150

join:2008-08-14
New York, NY
reply to Ramikor
said by Ramikor :

said by BG5150:

On my fury warrior, I gemmed spirit.

Was that bad?

Gem for intel, then you'll be able to figure it out.

I'll reforge from stam to get intel.


Ramikor

@comcastbusiness.net
said by BG5150:

said by Ramikor :

said by BG5150:

On my fury warrior, I gemmed spirit.

Was that bad?

Gem for intel, then you'll be able to figure it out.

I'll reforge from stam to get intel.

Can't reforge primary stats - you'd know that if you had gemmed intel.