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Re: MODEM - Options said by TSI Marc:Just looking into this further but on the BYOM from. It's looking like it needs to be a modem purchased from bell one way or another.. They ask for a serial number... Not cool! We'll have to dig into that some more.
This makes no sense to me. This is NO technical limitation here.
A Bell technician can clip on any port, at anytime (if he knows what he's doing) in a stinger OR 7330 and run a standard sync/ping with his meter.
His meter, being made by exfo, is obviously neither a sagemcom or cellpipe. The fact that he can ping an internet address shows that in VDSL2 there is no requirement to register the a MAC address to a port or any such nonsense.
Further more, a tech can take ANY sagemcom off his truck and replace a customer sagemcom with it for whatever reason, WITHOUT having to run the walled-garden to register it against the customers account. If he manually puts in the credentials, it will work.
This crap that bell is pulling requiring serial numbers and the like is just BS |
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TypeS
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I think a point that needs to be brought up with BYOM on VDSL is that Bell could turn around say you're "SOL" when you open a ticket for any sort of line/speed quality issue. The same way Rogers is about unsupported modems on their network. Some may want to consider this first. Probably best to rent first few months to make sure nothing is wrong with the line or if there are, get them resolved while using Bell's modems. Then switch to BYOM when you know your line is solid.
I think the other thing that needs a bit of clarification is if you do BYOM, do you still need to pay the $8 rental fee or can you just chose not to rent? Essentially, will Bell allow people to activate VDSL and not rent or buy a Sagemcom modem? |
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said by TypeS:Found this interesting Blog post:
Relinquish control of your Bell Fibe router.
I think I've read this before on the forums too, about if you're able set the VLAN ID for Internet on VDSL, you can get away with not using Bell's modems. This person used a Debian based solution.
Anyone know of consumer routers that can set the VLAN ID out of the box or DD-WRT or Tomato builds that can do this?
This is for FTTH. You can connect the ONT directly to your router if your router can set VLAN on it's WAN interface.
Likewise, if you have your own VDSL2 bridging modem that -doesn't- support VLAN tagging you have to use VLAN tagging on your router, though the Zyxel modems/routers will do VLAN tagging in-device so you you can just open PPPoE like normal on your own router and the modem will tag it for you. |
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TypeS
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London, ON | Are you sure the blog poster is talking about FTTH? I thought PPPoE is only used for FTTN VDSL and FTTH doesn't use PPPoE at all. Maybe I'm wrong? |
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1 edit | said by TypeS:Are you sure the blog poster is talking about FTTH? I thought PPPoE is only used for FTTN VDSL and FTTH doesn't use PPPoE at all. Maybe I'm wrong?
FTTH is PPPoE for internet traffic also.
Edit: It's dhcp on vlan 36 for FibeTV traffic. |
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| Was hoping they finally ditched PPPoE for FTTH. 
Guess you can only get non-PPPoE with dedicated xDSL, if you want to pay for it.
Marc, some clarification, if someone were to do the finance-to-own option on a DOCSIS 3 modem (in this case the DCM476), they still get the 1 year warranty with TSI? |
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 TSI PierreBaby, Wanna see what 300Gigs looks like?Premium
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Chatham, ON | said by TypeS:Was hoping they finally ditched PPPoE for FTTH.
Marc, some clarification, if someone were to do the finance-to-own option on a DOCSIS 3 modem (in this case the DCM476), they still get the 1 year warranty with TSI?
Yes you still get the 1 year warranty
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Awesome, this all gives me some options on what to recommend to a relative considering TSI atm. |
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TSI PierreBaby, Wanna see what 300Gigs looks like?Premium
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Chatham, ON | said by TypeS:said by TSI Pierre: Yes you still get the 1 year warranty
Awesome, this all gives me some options on what to recommend to a relative considering TSI atm. Perfect let me know if you need anything else.
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TypeS
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| said by TSI Pierre:Awesome, this all gives me some options on what to recommend to a relative considering TSI atm.
Perfect let me know if you need anything else.
If you could become a Genie and make VDSL available all across the London, that'd be pretty sweet and appreciated. 
Martin's answering my 101 questions in the Direct forums so far though.  |
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TSI PierreBaby, Wanna see what 300Gigs looks like?Premium
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Chatham, ON | said by TypeS:said by TSI Pierre:Awesome, this all gives me some options on what to recommend to a relative considering TSI atm.
Perfect let me know if you need anything else.
If you could become a Genie and make VDSL available all across the London, that'd be pretty sweet and appreciated. Martin's answering my 101 questions in the Direct forums so far though. Awesome about Martin, he is good! as for the Genie part.... I wish !!
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TSI PierreBaby, Wanna see what 300Gigs looks like?Premium
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Chatham, ON | said by TSI Marc:That shinny spot on his head is *not* a magic lamp!
LOL... it serves as a great light deflector! however no matter how hard I've ever rubbed the top of my bald head no genie has ever came out....
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jtl999ELE Programmer
join:2012-11-24 | reply to TSI Marc
Telus modems?
Actiontech V2000H?
Zyxel bonded? |
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mikee
join:2012-12-21
Gloucester, ON | reply to TSI Marc
So if you wanted to rent to own a docsis 3.0 it would cost 30+15(45 for the first month) than 15*6(90$) total comes to 135$? Any point to this? No one would want to pay an extra 35$ tbh... |
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TypeS
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said by mikee:So if you wanted to rent to own a docsis 3.0 it would cost 30+15(45 for the first month) than 15*6(90$) total comes to 135$? Any point to this? No one would want to pay an extra 35$ tbh...
Does any company rent/lease to own interest/fee free for a a product? |
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Why is everyone going crazy with the finance..The financing is just an option TEKSAVVY is offering. You don't need to finance it if you can afford to buy it. If you can't its a nice alternative for a slight price increase (which is to be expected)
On the other hand I am a little lost as to what is the best way to deal with the modem for VDSL.
It seems you cant BYOM since bell requires a serial number?
If i get the sagemcom I cant use my router for full 50mbit!?
So yea.. I hope Marc is able to get some more info on the BYOM part. |
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said by TSI Marc:Just looking into this further but on the BYOM from. It's looking like it needs to be a modem purchased from bell one way or another.. They ask for a serial number... Not cool! We'll have to dig into that some more.
If either of the Bell modems worked at full speed in bridged mode, I wouldn't really care about that, but if Bell wants to force us to use their modems, they'd better fix the Sagemcom to work at full speed with 50 meg!
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