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| CRTC 2013-80 Optional Upstream Speeds, DSL Modem Cert Consultation: "Review of outstanding wholesale high-speed access service issues related to interface rates, optional upstream speed rates, and modem certification requirements" » www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-80.htmMandatory filing of whether incumbents offer 'optional' speeds that could be tariffed, ie, non-ftth: » services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInt···r&lang=eNobody but Rogers offers 'optional' speed packages they aren't offering to TPIA/GAS. Rogers' offering was a 'promotion'. Today (Mar 25) is deadline for interventions on the 3 topics covered in the Consultation. Comments deadline is April 2nd. TY to JF for forwarding everything. In order above: Primus Vaxination (JF) CNOC - Some really great points Bell Companies - reserves the right to post on upstream speeds by Apr 2nd My own submission: » docs.google.com/document/d/1B0oe···=sharing--
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resa1983Premium
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kudos:7 | Damn.. If you only read 1 submission, make it CNOC's.
They really lay into Bell hard.
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| Great points by CNOC. The Type B semi-compliance with the VDSL2 has created so many problems. It's pretty much the definition of vendor lock-in.
It would be great to see all Stingers replaced with 7330 or fiber. My Stinger has been in service since August 2010 and since about half of my condo are DSL customers they must have broke even on these a long time ago. |
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 HiVoltPremium
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Toronto, ON
kudos:15 | reply to resa1983
Nice rip into Bell by CNOC... Too bad they didnt mention the 35mbps bridge mode limit on the Sagemcom... That would add further fuel to the fire...
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HiVoltPremium
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kudos:15 | reply to resa1983
Ressy, can you post JF's submission?
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| said by HiVolt:Ressy, can you post JF's submission?
Its there - its the 2nd one.
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HiVoltPremium
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kudos:15 | Oh, i didnt click on it cuz it said CRTC in the title.. hehe.. Thanks..
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| said by HiVolt:Oh, i didnt click on it cuz it said CRTC in the title.. hehe.. Thanks..
Tried not to change the pdf names too much, except Bell's.. They just have stupid names for their files.. Not to mention they filed a .doc instead of .pdf like everyone else. Ugh.
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kudos:1 | Bell always uses .doc. MTS uses .docx Dunno why they dont get with the program |
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| CRTC should just reject non PDF stuff... Come on Bell, you can't afford Acrobat? 
Yes I know free PDF converters exist 
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| said by HiVolt:CRTC should just reject non PDF stuff... Come on Bell, you can't afford Acrobat?
Yes I know free PDF converters exist
I usually write everything up in Google Docs (which is helpful when I have a sick kid who needs to be tossed in the shower, as I can keep working on my cellphone while he's getting clean, as was the case last night).. With the print option, I can either print to my printer (lawlz), or my free pdf printer.
Bell just doesn't like to make things easy on people.
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said by HiVolt:Nice rip into Bell by CNOC... Too bad they didnt mention the 35mbps bridge mode limit on the Sagemcom... That would add further fuel to the fire...
Agreed. The 35mbps issue seems a little more pressing than a bell logo in the modem configuration page. IISPs aren't going to be facing support costs and losing customers over a logo. The customers likely to subscribe to 50/10 are probably the same who are likely to need/want functioning bridge mode.
Also what's with the 1 year timelines for fixes? There's no reason people on 7330s shouldn't be able to go out and get a vdsl2 modem today. As for the stinger issue my feeling is bell does nothing until the fibetv rollout is done in 2015/they break/run out of capacity. |
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| said by regator :said by HiVolt:Nice rip into Bell by CNOC... Too bad they didnt mention the 35mbps bridge mode limit on the Sagemcom... That would add further fuel to the fire...
Agreed. The 35mbps issue seems a little more pressing than a bell logo in the modem configuration page. IISPs aren't going to be facing support costs and losing customers over a logo. The customers likely to subscribe to 50/10 are probably the same who are likely to need/want functioning bridge mode. Also what's with the 1 year timelines for fixes? There's no reason people on 7330s shouldn't be able to go out and get a vdsl2 modem today. As for the stinger issue my feeling is bell does nothing until the fibetv rollout is done in 2015/they break/run out of capacity. That 35mbps issue would be a good one to bring up with the CRTC for comments (due by April 2).
The 1 year timeline would be for Bell to replace all their stingers with 7330s I do believe.
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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In not so many words they make Bell look completely incompetent. |
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said by regator :Agreed. The 35mbps issue seems a little more pressing than a bell logo in the modem configuration page.
I believe you are still permitted to submit comments. I would urge a few of you to file this ASAP. It is a rather important issue. You pay for something, yet can never get it due to well "known" issues. Issues that have existed for a long, long time that Bell knows about.
It's like false advertizing. They know the issue is there. They know you can't get the speeds, yet they try to hide it and play dumb.
Or I guess you can always not say anything and just live with it, and let Bell walked all over you.
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resa1983Premium
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| Quick link to submit comments to the process:
»services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/Interven···ET=N#SE0
You can submit comments up to April 2nd.
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| said by resa1983:You can submit comments up to April 2nd.
Bell - The company that puts more money into R&V's than firmware fixesTM*
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 c2rothPremium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2 | reply to resa1983
They most certainly do. What a lavish fairytale down modem lane and how the evil witch, aka, Bell has terrorized all the internet users with it's wicked spells lol.
Time to read JF's! |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
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Montreal, QC
kudos:19 | reply to Nit Pick
said by Nit Pick :It's like false advertizing. They know the issue is there. They know you can't get the speeds, yet they try to hide it and play dumb. Bell doesn't support third party routers on their service, so as long as they're dealing with their own direct customers, the fact the modem can deliver 50 Mbps in routed mode is sufficient for them to evade any charges of false advertising. With wholesale connections, where they can't claim to not support third party routers (since that's not their call), it's another issue.
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| reply to resa1983
said by JFM Paragraph 9 :
While Bell Canada is free to cripple the functions of its modems for its own retail subscribers
Why is when I read that did a vivid picture of a Bell employee bashing out the modem's "knees" with a baseball bat and then placing it into a shipping box for a customer come to mind lol?
It certainly paints a clear picture behind the practice. |
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