T-Mobile Formally Launches LTE, New Pricing > Too bad...

Too bad...

T Mobile finally moving forward!

doesn't LTE have better coverage then 3G or HSPA+ ? I am on Verizon and wasn't with T Mobile for very long time but people always tend to think MetroPcs is better then T-Mobile well this might be a gamechanger , someone correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

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OK -- stick with AT&T, get an iPhone for $200, and pay ~$45 per month more for a comparable data plan. Enjoy your $1300 iPhone.

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LTE, all else equal, will have marginally LOWER coverage than H+ (coverage is pretty much inversely proportional to speed). When comparing to TMo's AWS H+ deployment, all else really is equal, so don't expect to get LTE where you can't get 3G/HSPA+ right now.

As for MetroPCS, I can't think of anyone who would actually prefer them over T-Mobile from a tech standpoint, though MetroPCS is a bit cheaper, depending on the plan you get.

The only reason Verizon has good LTE coverage is they're using ~750MHz spectrum to broadcast it.Lower frequencies propagate better than higher ones, so, all else equal, you'll get LTE nearly as far from a site as you could get 850MHz cellular based 3G (EvDO), despite the marked increase in bandwidth (or rather efficiency; Verizon's LTE takes 8x the spectrum of a single EvDO channel, but is nearly 3x as efficient, in ideal circumstances).

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It's a no interest payment plan. ST was/is? doing it too. If you leave, you pay the remaining balance just like an ETF, except it's based upon real hardware not some imaginary take $10 off each month and when you have 1 month left on the contract the ETF is still $150.

I'd be shocked if they let her out of a contract for "bad coverage" and without an ETF. Maybe your house is in a known bad cell zone (I did have that problem w/ Verizon and they gave me a new phone while they slowly fixed the eHRPD issues), however I doubt EVERY customer in the LA basin is having that problem. Fox would be all over that

Also, you could pick up a Nexus 4 for half the price of an iphone, or a USED one. Imagine that, letting someone else pay the depreciation. I'm sorry, but that toy iphone is NOT worth $600. Even my iphone 4s is dubiously priced, and if you compare it to the Nexus 4 I would estimate it's worth $200 NEW not like the $500 they are suckering people into buying. When they come out with the ghetto iphone this year, I bet this $100 phone goes for $400.

I was trolling and you can get a 1 year HTC Amaze (supposedly a $500 phone) that is only 1 year old for under $200, but I instead paid the extra $100 and got the Nexus 4 and man it is an awesome phone. Battery life is marginal tho, just like the rest of the suspects. I also think it's resale value will hold up now like Samsung phones.

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Depends on where you live, T-mobile is good around my area in NJ.
At $70 for unlimited talk/text and data and $20 for phone payment your paying $90 for unlimited everything. You won't get that price from Verizon or AT&T and you won't get that speed from Sprint.

Get a little smarter and buy your phone elsewhere, get a nexus at half the price or phones on sale on ebay and it's an even better deal

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LTE is not equal to H+, like EDGE, etc... There are a number of differences in the air interfaces(OFDM)/MIMO and LTE has a much lower noise floor. On top of that newer cells bring the amplifiers closer to the cell which yields better symbol resolution. You should check this out -- asu and this:

»s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entr···-primer/

That blog discusses Sprint which is running on GHz freq just like Tmo will and outside most of the US lots of LTE countries.

I hear Sprint is going to try and run LTE or fixed on Clear spectrum which they have a crapload of it (over 150Mhz) and that is like 2.5 GHz. That will def require LTE-TD to work well, but technology always gets better.

We are entering a spectrum renaissance. All of these vacated 3G networks will be ripe for MVNO and cheap cell plans.

Now granted Verizon and ATT are sitting on spectrum that penetrates better and will allow them to be more picky, however that doesn't discount PCS/AWS-ish frequencies from running solid LTE. The question is how the refarm works and their upgrade path for EDGE cells. That will all require some shuffling until Vo-LTE takes hold for most of this decade.

When they more to LTE-Advanced you don't have to have dedicated download/upload channels.

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Then you are either comparing grandfathered/business discounted rate plans, or you already paid for your device. Either way, you should learn to compare apples to apples.

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Buy your own phone and charge it on a credit card and pay the $20.00 each month and see how much you pay the credit card company. T-Mobile should not be in the business of lending people money interest free. It costs T-Mobile to acquire the phone and spreading that cost over time cost T-Mobile money, money the consumer should be paying. You have an option, buy your own phone.

The financing is interest-free. If you have poor credit but still qualify for financing, the up-front is higher (say, $299) but with a lower payment over 20 months (say $11.95).

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First, I am a T-Mobile Customer.
Your #4 point just doesn't hold up. The price hasn't really changed. We pay $100 now for two smart phones, unlimited with 2GB of data. If we moved to this it would be...exactly the same. Oh, no, I pay $5 per line for each additional line and didn't have to pay off my subsidized phone.
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I'm sure you will still be held accountable to pay off the balance. Good question though. I am darn sure they won't take the phone back if it's passed 30 days.

Also tmobile offers warranty for value plans. I missed that point.

Good to hear about your sis. You expect me to believe a rep themselves said I don't blame you? Sorry that's unbelievable. If your sister lives in a basement or works in one, then of course it is not meeting her needs and should be able to cancel without etf.

I used to work in glendale and in my building everyone with at sprint had to walk to a Window to get signal lol
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well, until now if you didn't pay off the balance, they blacklist the imei, which means it won't be used on t-mobile again! And last i read, they where going to share that with at&t (and other way around too) so it might just end up being a very expensive paperweight.
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