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La Luna
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Warwick, NY
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reply to nwrickert

Re: What is this?

Now how did it get enabled? I had it and the services connected to it disabled.

Going by that she's saying she had the adapter disabled....I think.



La Luna
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Warwick, NY
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1 recommendation

reply to John Galt

said by John Galt:

You might have fat-fingered the keyboard shortcut to activate the wireless card.

oooh, good thought!


Cthen

join:2004-08-01
Detroit, MI
Reviews:
·Verizon Wireless..
reply to La Luna

said by La Luna:

Now how did it get enabled? I had it and the services connected to it disabled.

Going by that she's saying she had the adapter disabled....I think.

Someone thinking they disabled it and it actually being disabled are two different things. Hence why some still had them go through other processes to check.
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
reply to Mele20

Do realize that having the NIC enabled does nothing bad - in fact - as long as it is not setup by you to connect to something - it is harmless.

This is not that big of a deal.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain



AVD
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Onion, NJ
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reply to Secyurityet

said by Secyurityet:

said by Mele20:

No, this is a desktop. I don't think there is any physical switch.

Then you can open that puppy up and pull out that wifi card. That'll do'er.

probably integrated in the motherboard.
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AVD
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reply to CylonRed

said by CylonRed:

Do realize that having the NIC enabled does nothing bad - in fact - as long as it is not setup by you to connect to something - it is harmless.

This is not that big of a deal.

its another way in.
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StuartMW
Who Is John Galt?
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Galt's Gulch
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reply to AVD

said by AVD:

probably integrated in the motherboard.

+1
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cpalindc
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join:2011-06-05
Washington, DC

1 recommendation

reply to Mele20

said by Mele20:

I also noticed that while I was gone (if event viewer is to be believed) that a helper driver for the Dell Support Center was installed which is odd and upsetting. Dell Support Center is good (in the past it was awful and I would uninstall it on a new machine) but I don't want Dell installing anything without my express permission.

I think this is the key. The Dell support genie probably noticed that your wireless connection was inoperative and either installed drivers or re-installed drivers. I have seen the same thing happen when checking Microsoft update with a disabled LAN card (I had two and disabled the internal one) and MS gave the option to download an update for the card because they determined that it was not working correctly.


StuartMW
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When I got my latest Dell box I uninstalled almost everything Dell. I've never missed any of it.

This is par for the course these days--everyone does it You can't re-install the base O/S since only a "system recovery" mechanism (you usually have to burn your own DVD) is provided and that includes all the crap they loaded.
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BlitzenZeus
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On a system I setup I had to disable most of the dell startup crap, crap trying to sell their premium recovery service, and stuff like that which was popping up. They hid it as a service. Also as a side note they had the very buggy version of the intel ssd software, and I saw the memory usage climb on that to almost a gig. The latest version of the intel software had been out a while, but Hell didn't update their hdd images in months.

I should note on that desktop system the wireless card was a tiny card on the motherboard, and not in a standard pci-e slot. The little wires that came off it were tied to the case.
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Secyurityet

join:2012-01-07
untied state

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said by AVD:

said by Secyurityet:

said by Mele20:

No, this is a desktop. I don't think there is any physical switch.

Then you can open that puppy up and pull out that wifi card. That'll do'er.

probably integrated in the motherboard.

Could be...
said by BlitzenZeus:

I should note on that desktop system the wireless card was a tiny card on the motherboard, and not in a standard pci-e slot. The little wires that came off it were tied to the case.

Right hand: dykes.

Snip, snip.

No more WiFi.


KrK
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Tulsa, OK
reply to NormanS

Nice to know if your connection is down you have great signal to open hotspots and neighbors around you, eh?!?

Sheesh.



KrK
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reply to John Galt

said by John Galt:

You might have fat-fingered the keyboard shortcut to activate the wireless card.

It's actually easier then most people realize to re-enable a disabled adapter. If your internet connection is down, you can "Diagnose" the connection problem and by just following a few prompts it will re-enable a disabled adapter to try and find a you a working connection.
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StuartMW
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reply to KrK

said by KrK:

Nice to know if your connection is down you have great signal to open hotspots and neighbors around you, eh?

It'd be ironic if those open hotspots are faster/more reliable than Mele20 See Profile's own connection (which from her own posts isn't very good).
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NormanS
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reply to KrK

said by KrK:

Nice to know if your connection is down you have great signal to open hotspots and neighbors around you, eh?!?

The neighbor running "linksys-guest" is the only one "open". The rest are, "WPA2-PSK" secure; I only have the key to, "Tenkai". I got it from Miss China!
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Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
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reply to cpalindc

said by cpalindc:

said by Mele20:

I also noticed that while I was gone (if event viewer is to be believed) that a helper driver for the Dell Support Center was installed which is odd and upsetting. Dell Support Center is good (in the past it was awful and I would uninstall it on a new machine) but I don't want Dell installing anything without my express permission.

I think this is the key. The Dell support genie probably noticed that your wireless connection was inoperative and either installed drivers or re-installed drivers. I have seen the same thing happen when checking Microsoft update with a disabled LAN card (I had two and disabled the internal one) and MS gave the option to download an update for the card because they determined that it was not working correctly.

No, the driver that got installed/updated was "PCDR Kernel Mode Service Helper Driver" which is from PC-Doctor which Dell uses for My Dell Support Center. I may have had PC-Doctor running minimized on the taskbar because I was watching its System History report which says that my BD ROM drive has been installed and uninstalled 2 TIMES every day starting Dec 12 (once a day until this month) which is a mystery as Device Manager has never indicated a problem with the optical drive.

A check for the driver in Windows Explorer does not show any update to that driver. I would be very surprised if the driver was really updated as Dell is AWFUL (always has been) about updating drivers. The Dell web support page for this computer claims a BUNCH of newly updated drivers as of the first part of March. But when I checked all those out not one of them was a newer version than what I have from around July 2012. So, I think Dell wants owners to think there are new versions of the crappy Realtek driver and other drivers when the vendors have not issued new versions and Dell's purported March 2013 versions are not new at all. The nVidia driver is the only one that is newer than last summer. I did notice one positive change in the System History report in Dell support center since that purported driver update. It now shows a history of all Restore points but only for this month.
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to StuartMW

said by StuartMW:

When I got my latest Dell box I uninstalled almost everything Dell. I've never missed any of it.

This is par for the course these days--everyone does it You can't re-install the base O/S since only a "system recovery" mechanism (you usually have to burn your own DVD) is provided and that includes all the crap they loaded.

I forced Dell to send me the USB reinstallation sticks for Windows 8 Pro and downgrade to Windows 7 Pro. But I didn't get them until I had the computer almost a month and I didn't really want to wipe it and install Win 8 pro clean at that point. I was undecided about whether I would keep Win 8 or downgrade to Win 7. Plus, I had Win 8 all set up and many programs installed, etc. It really pissed me off that Dell would not include at least the Win 8 Pro reinstallation either DVD disk or USB stick with the computer as I asked for it when I bought it. Plus, I bought from Small/Med Business division but through its Member Purchase Program and that program, being a discount program for business owners, their employees and families, wasn't offering the disk on the config page.

At least I have the ability to install Win 8Pro clean or to downgrade to Win 7 Pro. XPS 8500 special support though did tell me that if I decide to downgrade to have them walk me through it as the process on this particular computer is very complicated (i.e. some hardware may not work right which is ridiculous...but typical crap from OEMs).

Judging from what I have read in Dell forums, I don't think that if I had purchased from Dell Home division that I would have any hope of getting the downgrade USB stick or probably even the Win 8 reinstallation stick. Dell is sending those out to owners who have a disaster and require a reinstallation disk. Dell tells these hapless owners that they must RETURN the disk after using it and that if they do not comply that they will forfeit any remaining warranty. Dell claims this policy is forced by Microsoft. Strange because why would Microsoft force this only on Home division buyers?
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Frodo

join:2006-05-05
reply to Mele20

I recently got a new computer with an internal wireless card, and even though I disabled the network adapter, the nearby wireless networks would still show in an icon in the Win7 taskbar.

However, by disabling the wireless device in device manager knocks out the wireless.



Right click the 802.11n wireless device to disable, and the wireless information is gone. When I did so, that Wifi Miniport also disappeared. Go back and enable it, and the Wifi Miniport is back.

From what I can tell, it is not only good for wireless networks, but also for wireless keyboards and mouses.

Mele20
Premium
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Hilo, HI
kudos:4
reply to KrK

said by KrK:

said by John Galt:

You might have fat-fingered the keyboard shortcut to activate the wireless card.

It's actually easier then most people realize to re-enable a disabled adapter. If your internet connection is down, you can "Diagnose" the connection problem and by just following a few prompts it will re-enable a disabled adapter to try and find a you a working connection.

I think this may be what happened! I like Win8's "diagnose connection problems". XP, while a great OS, was very lacking when it came to network problems. I use the "diagnose" if I have a connection problem so maybe the disabled adapter got enabled and I didn't realize it or just didn't think anything of it because I have wired only ancient router so wireless maybe getting enabled wasn't going to diagnose/fix my problem so I might have just ignored it. Perhaps, now was the first time since it got enabled that I had a loss of connectivity and so now was the first time I had an opportunity to see those wireless connections.

I've enjoyed MUCH better connectivity since my ISP replaced my DOCSIS 2 modem with a new DOCSIS 3 one and a one level tier upgrade. Plus, my ISP finally fixed the upstream power level early this month so I have not been having connectivity disruptions nearly as often.

I am also thinking that "Pammie" may be my new next door neighbor's daughter whom I just met and is named Pam. "Tinkerbell" might be the new gal on the other side of me whom I don't know (but I know it is a gal because she has no bedroom drapes and I can see all her shoes laid out on the carpet. I think she may be there just temporarily). As I said in my first post, I am very ignorant about wireless connections since my router is wired only and I have not had a need to use wireless here so I really didn't understand at all what I was seeing ...thus I was a bit worried about a possible security problem.
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JoeSchmoe007
Premium
join:2003-01-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Mele20

I don't know if someone recommended this already but if you really want to disable this wireless adapter at hardware level you may be able to do so in computer BIOS.