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hm

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reply to Gone

Re: VMedia Launches

said by Gone:

From what I understand, there is only one channel in Canada that prevents it from being purchased a-la-carte, and that's Fox News. Everything else can, and that's generally the way they do things in Quebec as the norm.

You know... I was just looking to see if that was true and I don't even notice Fox News being offered. Or I missed it when looking. It's not something we would take anyhow, but I never noticed that before. What do they bundle it with?

Another thing with the a-la-carte at videotron is they allow you to switch channels any time you want at no cost. So for example, if I want to get rid of Sun News today for al jazeera, it's just a phone call. Or the kids get fed up of one of their 6 much music stations and want a toon station, it's a phone call. So you aren't stuck, or gouged.


Gone
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The reason Fox News was weird like that is because the Americans who were involved in negotiating Canadian carriage were operating on the American model of bundled channels and were completely oblivious to the fact we allow a-la-carte selections here and either refused to omitted the ability for them to be selected by customers that way as part of the carriage agreement.

Kind of ironic in so many ways if you ask me.



travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON

reply to Gone

said by Gone:

From what I understand, there is only one channel in Canada that prevents it from being purchased a-la-carte, and that's Fox News. Everything else can, and that's generally the way they do things in Quebec as the norm.

Unless things have changed significantly in the last two years, I can state from having seen many contracts with my own eyes that you're incorrect. I can't speak for why Quebec is different, but elsewhere, in many cases it's the channels protecting themselves by forcing packaged carriage.


hm

@videotron.ca

said by travisc:

said by Gone:

From what I understand, there is only one channel in Canada that prevents it from being purchased a-la-carte, and that's Fox News. Everything else can, and that's generally the way they do things in Quebec as the norm.

Unless things have changed significantly in the last two years, I can state from having seen many contracts with my own eyes that you're incorrect. I can't speak for why Quebec is different, but elsewhere, in many cases it's the channels protecting themselves by forcing packaged carriage.

So what are you saying?

The U.S. Mega-Media dealt only Quebec a different and better deal just because?

Or the Canadian Media hoarders treat Quebec differently because they can't milk the predominately french population as much as English Ontario with their english channels?

I wonder if George knows why it appears to be different in Qc than in Ontario?


Gone
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reply to travisc

said by travisc:

Unless things have changed significantly in the last two years, I can state from having seen many contracts with my own eyes that you're incorrect. I can't speak for why Quebec is different, but elsewhere, in many cases it's the channels protecting themselves by forcing packaged carriage.

It is not uncommon for the channel owners to force bundling on the DBU side, e.g. if you carry Sportsnet One, Rogers also requires that you carry this, and that, and this and to pay for them. Shaw may require you to carry H2 and TVTropolis if you're carrying History HD or whatever else. Still from what I gather, they do not force a BDU to bundle those channels to customers and that any bundling is a BDU's own business decision themselves. Either way, fair enough. I was told what I was told by people I know up at Cogeco, and verified by a good friend who works on the regulatory side of things who has a bit of understanding of how the stuff works. Not forcing bundling on customers may have been specific to digital channels, as I know what are or used to be analog carriage channels are an entirely different beast all together.

That, or it's just specific to the contracts they worked out with you guys

darrylr

join:2003-02-10
Nepean, ON

So can anyone with this service who has a large screen (50") and has experience watching Blu-ray movies comment on the quality of the HD channel images with VMedia? Also it would be nice to mention screen size and viewing distance.

Maybe a comparison to Super HD netflix would be useful as well.



travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON

reply to GeorgeBurger
Gone, you're absolutely right that the newer digital channels have more flexibility to offer on an a la carte basis. But I suspect those still don't draw the lion's share of the viewing like the old analog channels do.



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said by travisc:

Gone, you're absolutely right that the newer digital channels have more flexibility to offer on an a la carte basis. But I suspect those still don't draw the lion's share of the viewing like the old analog channels do.

Indeed, and in the case of Fox News it was a digital channel from the very beginning, so the whole idea of requiring the channel to be bundled was a major fumble on their part compared to the other foreign channels and the Canadian Category As and Bs.


bbbc

join:2001-10-02
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reply to GeorgeBurger
Par for the course, everyone is crowing about Ontario and Quebec. Ever indie IPTV offering seems to be in the same neck of the woods. George what about Alberta and British Columbia?

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ekster
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I think everyone usually starts off in these two provinces because of the population. Quebec and Ontario represents 2/3rds of Canada... with Greater Montreal and Greater Toronto areas alone containing all of the BC and AB population (if not more.)

So with PQ and ON being a lot less of a risk, everyone would rather start up here.


bbiab

join:2004-05-26

reply to GeorgeBurger
Is there any NBA playoffs on this?


geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON

Someone said that you can get VMedia Internet without your IPTV service. True or false?


Limber

join:2007-11-19

reply to GeorgeBurger
Hey George, I was just walking through the signup process and I noticed a minor glitch. In Step 1 "Check Availability", if I plug in my address (instead of my postal code), the postal code that automatically appears isn't quite correct, though it's close. It's shifted one intersection over. Same with a couple of other homes in my area that I tried. My neighborhood is in the South-West quadrant at Yonge & Sheppard (North York). Don't know if other areas are affected.

It's probably not a big deal, but I figured you might want to check it out for yourself.


Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:2

reply to GeorgeBurger
will we get 60fps on sports channels?


Limber

join:2007-11-19

reply to geokilla

said by geokilla:

Someone said that you can get VMedia Internet without your IPTV service. True or false?

Good question... I'd like to hear the answer to this also.

There are some odd aspects to all this.

- If you signup for cable internet, you're required to provide cancellation info regarding your current "cable" provider. It's unclear if this refers to your TV provider, cable internet provider, or both. And what if you don't already have a cable provider to begin with?
- If you sign up for 25/10 internet, they offer an ADSL2+ Modem Router. Isn't the Sagemcom 2864 mandatory at that speed tier?

coldmantis

join:2005-02-04

reply to GeorgeBurger
does the vbox have wifi or do I have to run cables everywhere in the house?


GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30

reply to geokilla

said by geokilla:

Someone said that you can get VMedia Internet without your IPTV service. True or false?

True.

GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30

reply to coldmantis

said by coldmantis:

does the vbox have wifi or do I have to run cables everywhere in the house?

It works with wifi but that is so variable in strength based on your router and distance that we recommend ethernet wherever possible.We also think if your house is properly wired that powerline adaptors are a good alternative.

GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30

reply to Limber
Thanks very much Limber, we are looking into it. No glitch is too minor.


geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON
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reply to GeorgeBurger

said by GeorgeBurger:

said by geokilla:

Someone said that you can get VMedia Internet without your IPTV service. True or false?

True.

But I guess those with existing cable Internet still have to pay the installation fee right? Even though no Rogers trucks will get sent out?

Also might wanna fix that on your page then. Because the only way to bypass the IPTV service is if I click Step 3. Otherwise, it'll tell me to select a Basic TV package.
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