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Viper359
Premium
join:2006-09-17
Scarborough, ON
reply to Guspaz

Re: VMedia Launches

I hope so, but, not too sure.



Shrug

@videotron.ca
reply to Viper359

said by Viper359:

Why can't TV just be about watching TV?

I think the kids in a family would like it and use it.

Viper359
Premium
join:2006-09-17
Scarborough, ON

The kids can scram. Its daddy's time!



oh

@videotron.ca

said by Viper359:

The kids can scram. Its daddy's time!

I didn't notice marital aid stations available on Vmedia...

But maybe they have a youporn app for that!



HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:21
reply to GeorgeBurger

Wait, what? You need to be on their internet package to subscribe to TV? Thats BS...
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Viper359
Premium
join:2006-09-17
Scarborough, ON

They don't have an option in that. That is CRTC mandated in order to be able to offer IPTV. Either through Vmedia, or a partner.



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

Wait, what? You need to be on their internet package to subscribe to TV? Thats BS...

So sayeth the CRTC. Blame them for the requirement.
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TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

Wait, what? You need to be on their internet package to subscribe to TV? Thats BS...

In theory, the IISPs they peer with could offer a speed tier that is enough for x number of STBs to run concurrently but includess no data usage what so ever, only the IPTV traffic.


hm

@videotron.ca
reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

Wait, what? You need to be on their internet package to subscribe to TV? Thats BS...

No. Some ISP's have a peering agreement. So if you wanted it, and TSI has the agreement, then yeah you can get it w/o their internet.

At least, this is how I understand it.


WhaleOilBee
What a long strange trip it's been

join:2011-08-02
Manotick, ON
Reviews:
·Acanac
reply to GeorgeBurger

I didn't notice any time shifted stations. West coast Canadian and US networks would be nice to have since there's apparently no PVR capability in the 'box'. Is this correct? Any possibility of west feeds in the future?

Oh, congratulations and best of luck on your product launch.



HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:21
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to Guspaz

said by Guspaz:

said by HiVolt:

Wait, what? You need to be on their internet package to subscribe to TV? Thats BS...

So sayeth the CRTC. Blame them for the requirement.

That is utterly moronic.
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TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to GeorgeBurger

said by GeorgeBurger:

Hi

We get our DSL directly from Bell, and we get cable through another ISP, CIKTel. WE do look forward to our own TPIA deal soon with Rogers.And yes, Alexei and I were just talking about offering higher speeds.We will look into it.Right now we were focused on killer comparables, matching our Basic + internet with similar offers which show compelling value on our side, so for example Bell's Basic plus 6Mbps service clocks in at over $80 on a recurring basis, with contract, while you get something similar from VMedia for under $60, plus no contracts and no limits. But I take your point.

But, you can get Rogers or Videotron Digital Cable and go with TPIA or AGAS based internet services with any numbre of the IISPs in Ontario or Quebec. The savings via cheaper internet is a moot point, you can get them with IPTV or good ol' digital cable.

But you just launched your product, so I will keep watching to see you folks improve. The basic is pretty nice deal, the add on packs, depending on which channel one would want, can increase the bill to be the same or more expensive than your competitors'. Any ETA how the package where you get to choose specific channels?

Kudos on the launch, more choice can't hurt the market.

realist123

join:2010-11-29
h0h0h0
reply to yyzlhr

said by yyzlhr:

said by GeorgeBurger:

When you combine our internet prices with our TV prices, we have enough savings for you to get a higher tier if you needed it. But since we only use 2Mgs, pretty much any Rogers service you get will leave you enough left over to do exactly what you want on the internet.

Your HD channels only have a 2mbps bitrate?!?!

George Burger, I'd also like to know the details of your hd bitrate.

Also, what version of Android does your box run?

I'll be moving this June and plan on ditching bell homephone/fibe for a voip/more a-la-cart offering to lower my monthly expenses.

I am very interested about your service, but find the website information very limited. Also, my chat request was never answered at 9:10pm EST.

thanks.

morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·TekSavvy DSL
·ELECTRONICBOX

I am quite Enthused at the packages i am seeing, I like the Deal for premium basic for me it offers all the channels i want for 40 bucks which is the same as a basic package from bell or rogers.. I get Space, AMC, Showcase, TCM and networks Tsn Sportsnet etc.. Not to much fluff In a way i miss Hgtv and Spike but i was looking i could almost build a perfect package for myself with the basic 3 themepacks for about $45 bucks And then when the season for getting hbo hits Call in for it for a few months of Game of thrones and trueblood, if i so wished. and 46.95 for unlimited 35/3? Pretty sweet there though i would Prefer 150/10 P:)
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Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to GeorgeBurger

said by GeorgeBurger:

We get our DSL directly from Bell, and we get cable through another ISP, CIKTel.

If you're using CIKTel, does that mean that you have the ability to offer services on the Cogeco network as well as Rogers?


Spare

join:2004-04-14
min2p6
reply to morisato

George

I do see some of the value in what your offering in the basic package. Have it all in the death star no real choice basic package at I think at 33.95 now (ludicrous) considering I don't get tsn in hd for that or tsn2 (at all). But I also see that others have a desire for super skinny package as well.

That being said my big issue is no access in cogeco land other than one fairly unknown provider


geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON

George Burger... Name sounds familiar...

So what's the difference between this and my standard Rogers TV that I pay only $20 (Fairchild) for a $80 TV subscription?


bbhog

join:2010-07-05
North York, ON
reply to GeorgeBurger

Wow, congrats George!


Dunlop

join:2011-07-13
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Bell Fibe
·ELECTRONICBOX
reply to GeorgeBurger

Looks interesting, I think a another hurdle when you do come to Quebec is that Videotron and Bell offer a la carte channels. We escaped the "bundled channel" trap (i.e I want RDS I have to take 6 other channels with it) and do not want to go back :P


GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30
kudos:2
reply to realist123

For now our support hours are from 10 a.m. – 9:00 p.m. We are working on being able to extend hours beyond 9 p.m. Sorry we weren't there for you, please try again if you didn't leave a message.

Any help from you about what additional info beyond what is on the site and FAQs would be really great.

We are running Android 4.0.4 soon switching to Android 2.0.


GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30
kudos:2
reply to morisato

What I'm saying. Thanks for the neat analysis.


GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30
kudos:2
reply to Gone

Yes we offer the Cogeco 20Mg service.



EUS
Kill cancer
Premium
join:2002-09-10
canada
reply to GeorgeBurger

Congrats on getting your baby to stand!
However, I might be going blind, what's the site?
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jfn0106

join:2012-09-16
reply to GeorgeBurger

Hi George,

Congratulations on the launch, and thanks for bringing more choices to the market. I've got a few points for you and your team to consider:

I'd echo other comments for more standalone channel choices. Specifically, I'd like to see HBO and AMC available standalone, but in general more single channel choices are better. You seem to have addressed this in a previous post, so hopefully we'll see this coming soon.

Please reconsider the multiple receiver fee of $6.95 per extra VBox (I assume per month, it's not clear on your website). Look, I don't think it's wrong to make money, but this is a perfect example of the extra fees driving me away from the incumbents in the first place. Why not make it easier for customers with lots of screens to embrace your offerings?

Perhaps you could look into making available a whole home PVR (supporting at least 3 screens) that customers could buy outright, rather than rent-only?

Oh, and one last thing...please work out a deal for carriage with Marc at Teksavvy please.

Good Luck!


GeorgeBurger

join:2011-12-30
kudos:2

1 recommendation

reply to EUS

www.vmedia.ca


realist123

join:2010-11-29
h0h0h0
reply to GeorgeBurger

said by GeorgeBurger:

For now our support hours are from 10 a.m. – 9:00 p.m. We are working on being able to extend hours beyond 9 p.m. Sorry we weren't there for you, please try again if you didn't leave a message.

Any help from you about what additional info beyond what is on the site and FAQs would be really great.

We are running Android 4.0.4 soon switching to Android 2.0.

The website has hours under "call us", but not under "chat". I figured it was after 9pm, but there should be note and at 9pm you should bar visitors from opening chat windows. make a popup warning or something.

As for website information, the pictures of your vbox screens are very small and I cannot figure out what the experience looks like. A video would be handy. I beta tested Bell Fibe back when it was called Bell Entertainment and they gave me 50% off the service at the time to be a guinea pig. When I signed up they had demos available to see what I was getting myself into.

I find your pricing reasonable, but without a clearer idea of what the service experience is like, it is hard to convince a consumer to spend upfront installation/time/effort for a mystery box.

Lastly, as many people have noted, I've become very reliant on my PVR, and a promise of "soon" doesn't cut it for me.

If you have it ready by late May there's a good chance I'll subscribe.

Oh, and can we root the device to add apps ourselves?


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
reply to GeorgeBurger

Interesting product/service... I'll have to take another look at your product when it's available in London. Maybe by then, you might allow (or be allowed to negotiate) access via another ISP 'partner'?

At least your $25 basic package includes FOX (for racing, baseball). Here in London, we do not get FOX on Basic Cable, with Rogers!

We actually came close to dumping cable TV, but we would actually miss SOME of the cable channels, including CBC (which is not available OTA in London!).

Hmmm...

Why so many CTV and CTV2 channels on Basic, which are almost duplicates of each other (at least in primetime)?

Is that just to provide some 'local news' in major centres? Is it easier to just offer them all (and make the BASIC package look bigger), instead of letting the customer choose the one or two they want?



En Enfer
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join:2003-07-25
Montreal, QC
kudos:4

said by jasmo34:

Why so many CTV and CTV2 channels on Basic, which are almost duplicates of each other (at least in primetime)?

My theory, George most likely receives a big paycheck for distributing Bell channels. But don't worry, the CTV/CTV2 channels are free OTA stations and are not making basic service price increase.

Basic service includes 9 optional channels, 7 belongs to Bell (MuchMusic, MuchMore, TSN, TSN2, CTV News, E!, CP24), one from Corus (YTV), and one from Moses Znaimer (VisionTV).

Premium Basic contains 6 channels from Bell (Bravo, Discovery, Comedy, MTV, BNN, Space), one from Shaw (Showcase), one from Rogers (Sportsnet), and 6 american (AMC, A&E, CNN, NFL, HLN, TMC).

All of Bell's analog specialties are included with this package, leaving out Shaw Media (Slice, History, TVtropolis, Food, HGTV) and Corus (CMT, OWN, Teletoon, Treehouse, W Network). Out of balance, that doesn't seem to be fair to Bell Media's competitors.
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Not4QC

@videotron.ca
reply to Guspaz

said by Guspaz:

Yes, my Videotron prices are TV-only. I do not have any other services from Videotron, and so do not qualify for any bundle discounts. I also have not gotten any retention deals because I haven't seen any better options from other providers yet that I can threaten them with (although I suppose I could try the "I don't watch much, cut me a deal or I'm gone" thing).

Yeah Videotron is the hardest company that exists to even get a dollar knocked off. But I got that Fee knocked off with an additional penny as you will see below.

Didn't get a chance to look at my bill till just now, this is what I see:
Basic: 17.99 (not the 25,25$, so a ~7$ rebate)
Network fee: 2.99 (Some network fee that I had a fight about)
Rebate: -3.00 (No Network fee. see the extra penny? Woot!)
A la carte 30: 32.00 even (a 25-cent rebate or something).
a la carte 30 rebate: -10.90 (Another rebate)
Total: 39.08 + tx (almost half the price you pay)

So someone above stated it came to 1$ a channel. Actually, they get ~70-cents a channel out of me and still make a high profit.

If Vmedia came to Quebec with the same channel packages I would need to get the following to make everyone here happy (that is, the same channels they want):

Vmedia
Premium Basic: 39.95
Living package: 6.95
Information package: 6.95
Movies package: 7.95
MEncore Package: 7.95
Kids package: 9.95
Knowledge package 8.95
Entertainment Package 10.95
Total: 99.60$

So yeah, 60.52$ difference. That is a very severe difference. That's the price of Videotrons 30-meg internet I would fork over every month just to get the same channels. Plus I would have to change ISP.

Anyhow, he said it would be a year from now *if* they break into the Quebec market. So that is a year to drop prices to make bundle people like me with families happy enough to want to jump. Which I doubt will ever happen.

So this is more for couples or bachelore(ettes), or students. Or for people in Ontario who don't seem to have the same pricing and quasi-a-la-carte like Quebec.

So even in your case, Guspaz, where you get no rebates at all (because you are a dissenter with a wholesaler ), you are still about 20$ ahead (in your pocket) than w/ Vmedia due to their package structure geared to the Ontario market or something.

Not worth it (in Quebec).

Now I'm going to call in to get unlimited for 10$ more and might complain about that dollar raise Videotron gave itself a month or so back and try and get two out of it


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to GeorgeBurger

That is pretty sweet. The math on the $7 basic rebate is a bit off though, the $25.25 price is the price with the fees because advertising laws make them show the all-in price, while what shows up on your bill is the component price. I of memory serves, the itemized basic price on my bill is $20.
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