| Very Confused133;. Hopeful someone can help I am replacing my router and now looking to replace the actiontec MI424 as well. So, this actiontec has multiple ethernet ports on back. Right now I have the WAN input connected to the main box in my home. I then have the mi424 connected to my router. We only have verizon internet, no TV with VZ. As I look at the newer modems it seems most only have one input on the back. So, given I now have two connections active from modem and in my trial/error disconnecting one or other results in loss of connectivity…. How in the world do I upgrade both router/modem? Is there something wrong with my connections? Summarize…. I have 2 active connections currently but modems I see only have one connection. I don't need/want a modem/router combo. Just need modem.
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 Demonfangi don't work for verizon, but wish i did
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Spring Mills, PA
kudos:1 | is the input to your mi424 coming over coax or ethernet? if it's coming in through ethernet, you should just be able to plug the cord going into your modem into the wan port on your router instead, and just giving your router the login information the modem has. |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
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said by TTOWN :Right now I have the WAN input connected to the main box in my home. •WAN input of which router?
By "main box", I assume you're referring to the ONT.
said by TTOWN :I then have the mi424 connected to my router. •Is the MI424 in front of or behind your router?
If it's behind your router, there is no need for it all since you don't have FIOS-TV.
said by TTOWN : As I look at the newer modems it seems most only have one input on the back. FIOS does not use modems.* You should NOT be looking at cable modems. They are not compatible with FIOS.
said by TTOWN :So, given I now have two connections active from modem •What are you referring to as "the modem"? The MI424-WR?
The MI424-WR is not a modem. It is a MOCA capable router.
said by TTOWN :in my trial/error disconnecting one or other results in loss of connectivity Not clear what you're disconnecting and whether your connection from the ONT is coax or cat5. If you have a cat5 connection to the ONT, you have to release the WAN DHCP lease before you can connect another router.
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »How do I release my DHCP lease
said by TTOWN :I don't need/want a modem/router combo. Just need modem. No, you don't need a modem. If you have a coax connection from the ONT to the MI424-WR, all you need to do is switch it from a coax WAN connection to a cat5 WAN connection.
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Replacing the Actiontec (part 1): Coax to Ethernet
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* Except in the case of MDU VDSL installations.
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More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
kudos:25 | reply to Demonfang
said by Demonfang:you should just be able to plug the cord going into your modem into the wan port on your router Please do not refer to the MI424-WR as a modem. It is not. It is a MOCA capable router.
Doing so is confusing to those that do not understand that FIOS does not use modems.
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 nycdavePremium,MVM
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Melville, NY
kudos:10 | VDSL modems are used with FiOS VDSL MDU ONT's...And the Actiontec and Westell BHR's do plug into the VDSL modems when a customer is served from a VDSL MDU ONT. |
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Hi, Thxs for reply. Everything is coming over ethernet, no coax.
I must have messed up somewhere when connecting cause I literally have the mi424 connected to not only my main hub (box w/ all the cables) but also to my router. When I disconnect either from the mi424, I lose all connectivity. |
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More Fiber, I am tech challenged, plz bare w/me. The main box is the area where all my cat5 is. Not sure what ONT is. So, in terms of connections… from my mi424 it is connected to main box (ONT). Next, from mi424, LAN to internet input on router connected. The mi424 served as both my router/modem for several years and about 15 months ago switched to linksys router. The above connections are what I have now… mi424 to linksys router. When I mentioned disconnecting, I was just doing trial/error trying to figure out why the heck i have 2 active inputs connected to mi424 and every new modem I have looked at only has one input.
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More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
kudos:25 | said by TTOWN :Not sure what ONT is. »Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What is ONT: Optical Network Terminal?
said by TTOWN :The mi424 served as both my router/modem for several years Again, the MI424-Wr (Actiontec) is NOT a modem.
said by TTOWN :i have 2 active inputs connected to mi424 Not sure what you mean by "2 active inputs". The Actiontec has one cat5 WAN jack (white) which connects to the ONT. The Actiontec has 4 LAN jacks (yellow).
said by TTOWN :every new modem I have looked at only has one input. Why are you looking at modems? You don't need one.
To connect the Linksys as your primary router,
Follow this FAQ to release you WAN DHCP lease on the Actiontec.
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »How do I release my DHCP lease
It's imperative that you release the WAN DHCP lease before connecting the Linksys to the ONT. If you don't, you won't get a DHCP lease on the Linksys until the existing DHCP lease expires, which could be several hours.
Once you've powered off the Actiontec immediately after releasing the DHCP lease, you can move the cat5 cable from the Actiontec's WAN port to the Linksys' WAN port.
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I thought a picture might help explain better my current network setup. (not sure why its upside down though) Anyway, the device with the coax is the actiontec mi424. You will see 2 connections…. one going to wall, main hub. The other going from Lan input on mi424 to internet input on Linksys router.
I am replacing the Linksys router and want to replace the mi424 as well. My concern/question is….. when I have disconnected either connection from the mi424 I loose connectivity. So, how would a new modem W/only one input work w/my setup? Hopefully this picture helps and Thanks again. |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
kudos:25 | Thanks for the pic. That does confirm your connections.
WAN and LAN connections are not "inputs". They are bi-directional connections. i.e. They both transmit and receive.
said by TTOWN :I am replacing the Linksys router and want to replace the mi424 as well. There is no reason to replace both routers. One router is all you need.
said by TTOWN :when I have disconnected either connection from the mi424 I loose connectivity. What you need to do is:
1) Release the WAN DHCP lease on the Actiontec per the FAQ I posted before.
2) Immediately power off the Actiontec so it does not reacquire a DHCP lease.
3) Disconnect the cat5 cable from the Linksys WAN port.
4) Move the cat5 cable from the Actiontec WAN port to the Linksys WAN port.
5) Reboot the Linksys.
You should now have an internet connection on the Linksys.
6) Completely remove the Actiontec. You might want to hang on to it in case you ever have to call VZ because of a problem. VZ will only provide support if the Actiontec is your main router.
When you get your new router, simply repeat these instructions releasing the WAN DHCP lease on the Linksys before installing your new router.
said by TTOWN :So, how would a new modem W/only one input work w/my setup? For the third time, you do not have a modem, nor do you need one.
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| More Fiber- Thank you, very much! I have learned more in a few posts from you then I ever did before about this stuff.
have a good day! |
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The person responsible for crimping those RJ-45 connectors should be shot... |
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