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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3
reply to bt

Re: [TV] Where to get a cheap digital converter TV box?

with rogers cable sorry.


technocar2

join:2009-05-29
Brampton, ON
kudos:2

said by TOPDAWG:

with rogers cable sorry.

Rogers gives them for free for the time you use their service and then return it when you cancel the service.

You can get them by ordering online, you don't have to pay anything.

»www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal···vince=ON


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3

well I kind of don't pay for cable they just never turned it off when I canceled. So I got to buy a box.


bt

join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1

said by TOPDAWG:

well I kind of don't pay for cable they just never turned it off when I canceled. So I got to buy a box.

You're SOL then. Boxes like the one you linked won't work for what you want.

activoice

join:2008-02-10
York, ON
reply to TOPDAWG

I don't think it's possible to use a third party box to decode the digital cable signal from Rogers.

The box you linked to receives over the air digital only. It only provides pass thru for analog cable which is what you have coming from Rogers.


technocar2

join:2009-05-29
Brampton, ON
kudos:2

said by activoice:

I don't think it's possible to use a third party box to decode the digital cable signal from Rogers.

Its 100% possible with the right kind of third party box, rogers has kept it unencrypted.

Hooter

join:2009-08-17
Scarborough, ON
reply to TOPDAWG

said by TOPDAWG:

well I kind of don't pay for cable they just never turned it off when I canceled. So I got to buy a box.

Buying a used Rogers box from Kijiji will do absolutely nothing for you if you do not pay for Cable. There are many adjectives that can be used to describe Rogers but they are not stupid enough to authorize a cable box for someone who is not paying for Cable and those boxes that you linked to are absolutely useless without being authorized by Rogers!


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2

said by Hooter:

said by TOPDAWG:

well I kind of don't pay for cable they just never turned it off when I canceled. So I got to buy a box.

Buying a used Rogers box from Kijiji will do absolutely nothing for you if you do not pay for Cable. There are many adjectives that can be used to describe Rogers but they are not stupid enough to authorize a cable box for someone who is not paying for Cable and those boxes that you linked to are absolutely useless without being authorized by Rogers!

The boxes all have a MAC address. That's how they track them. And that's how they authorize them, so a third party, non-Rogers box will not work.
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Hooter

join:2009-08-17
Scarborough, ON

True, but the links posted from Kijiji are for a Rogers box, not a third party non-Rogers box. If TOPDAWG had a legitimate cable account with Rogers, he could possibly purchase one of these and have it activated by Rogers. He would of course have to verify the serial number with Rogers to ensure it is registered in their data base and that the previous customer had deactivated it on their account. A number of people have been burned by purchasing used boxes without first verifying that the box is legitimate and can be activated.

My point though still stands. Without a legitimate Cable account, there is no way that TOPDAWG will get any Rogers box activated, no matter where it is purchased!



TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3

oh ok was thinking it would just act as a dumb box to let me get back the basic cable channels that went ditgel.



DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
reply to Hooter

said by Hooter:

True, but the links posted from Kijiji are for a Rogers box, not a third party non-Rogers box. If TOPDAWG had a legitimate cable account with Rogers, he could possibly purchase one of these and have it activated by Rogers. He would of course have to verify the serial number with Rogers to ensure it is registered in their data base and that the previous customer had deactivated it on their account. A number of people have been burned by purchasing used boxes without first verifying that the box is legitimate and can be activated.

My point though still stands. Without a legitimate Cable account, there is no way that TOPDAWG will get any Rogers box activated, no matter where it is purchased!

And Rogers may say "Sorry. That's linked to another account." And it's not the serial number but the MAC address.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.

Hooter

join:2009-08-17
Scarborough, ON

I don't think it is that big a deal, though when I activated a used box given to us by my father-in-law after he switched to Bell, it was the serial number that Rogers asked for. Once they verified it was legitimate, it was activated without a hitch. The bottom line is that you must check out the box very carefully before purchasing on Kijiji or some other such place!



TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

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meh if you got to call just to make the boxes work then that will do me no good. I only have the tv on for background noise anyway. so I take it I'm forked on getting the digital channels back?

I was thinking rogers put out little boxes that did not do anything but take the digital single coming in and change it to analog did they not? I was thinking that is what this little box does so long as you have basic cable coming in you get those boxes and they turn the digital channels into analog so you can pick them up again.

»barrie.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeIm···AL%20box



sm5w2
Premium
join:2004-10-13
St Thomas, ON
reply to TOPDAWG

> was thinking it would just act as a dumb box to let me get back
> the basic cable channels that went digital.

If you go to this web-page:

»www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal···&group=1

In the lower right-hand side there is a "Channel Line-ups" selector where you can select various types of channels, if you select "Channels available WITHOUT A DIGITAL ADAPTER" and select "Midland", Rogers comes back with a rather full list of channels in Midland from channel 2 through 55 and a handful from 70 to 130.

So unless that information is wrong, I don't see how you are missing any of the basic cable channels - they are all still available on Rogers in Midland in analog format - no cable box required.



TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

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well I lost so far TCM and peachtree but I only wanted in the heat of the night on there and lost TELETOON but looks like I will lose HGTV next month and I watch that a good bit in the background.

So I'll just lose more and more as time goes on. oh well if I could do something easy to make the channels work I would but fork if I'm paying 30 plus a month for that crap. man even with a basic digital adapter you got to call and get it turned on.

Here I was thinking you could just get a digital adapter and it would just work on your basic cable channels and get the ones that went digital back. Looks like I was wrong. guess I'm forked then thanks guys. here is the one rogers makes had no idea you still had to call in before you can use them.

»www.rogershelp.com/DigitalCable-···id=117-0



DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
reply to sm5w2

said by sm5w2:

So unless that information is wrong, I don't see how you are missing any of the basic cable channels - they are all still available on Rogers in Midland in analog format - no cable box required.

The information may not be updated. I'll ask next time I am in the shop. Orillia, Midland, Collingwood and Grey County are all part of the Barrie system and it is all now digital.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


sm5w2
Premium
join:2004-10-13
St Thomas, ON

> Orillia, Midland, Collingwood and Grey County are all part of the
> Barrie system and it is all now digital.

Well either you are wrong or TopDawg is wrong. Topdawg is complaining about the loss of a few upper-tier analog specialty channels, not the loss of ALL analog channels.



DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2

said by sm5w2:

> Orillia, Midland, Collingwood and Grey County are all part of the
> Barrie system and it is all now digital.

Well either you are wrong or TopDawg is wrong. Topdawg is complaining about the loss of a few upper-tier analog specialty channels, not the loss of ALL analog channels.

When they changed over, no channel assignments were changed. What was analogue is now all digital.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


LazMan
Premium
join:2003-03-26
canada
reply to DKS

said by DKS:

said by Hooter:

True, but the links posted from Kijiji are for a Rogers box, not a third party non-Rogers box. If TOPDAWG had a legitimate cable account with Rogers, he could possibly purchase one of these and have it activated by Rogers. He would of course have to verify the serial number with Rogers to ensure it is registered in their data base and that the previous customer had deactivated it on their account. A number of people have been burned by purchasing used boxes without first verifying that the box is legitimate and can be activated.

My point though still stands. Without a legitimate Cable account, there is no way that TOPDAWG will get any Rogers box activated, no matter where it is purchased!

And Rogers may say "Sorry. That's linked to another account." And it's not the serial number but the MAC address.

It's VERY common to find "rental" Rogers boxes listed for sale on CL/Kijijji, too... You call Rogers and get a nasty surprise.

Only sure way is the legit way - order a box (rental or purchase) from Rogers themselves... I do know people that have bought CL boxes, but before completing the transaction with the seller, called Rogers, and confirmed the box isn't stolen/rental and doesn't have an outstanding balance on the attached account.

As for the state of the Barrie system - it's in a bit of a flux right now - Rogers has partially converted - my parents in Alliston just got the DTA hardware a couple weeks ago; it appears to be happening in a staged program, rather then all at once... Barrie's cable network is a bit of a mashup, due to geography (it's a large area served by the head-end).


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2

said by LazMan:

As for the state of the Barrie system - it's in a bit of a flux right now - Rogers has partially converted - my parents in Alliston just got the DTA hardware a couple weeks ago; it appears to be happening in a staged program, rather then all at once... Barrie's cable network is a bit of a mashup, due to geography (it's a large area served by the head-end).

I had forgotten about the Allison sub. It actually has multiple centres, including Allison. Each acts somewhat independently and fed, not by Barrie, but by Master Control in Toronto.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.

vincom

join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Anveo
·TekSavvy Cable

1 recommendation

reply to Hooter

said by Hooter:

True, but the links posted from Kijiji are for a Rogers box, not a third party non-Rogers box. If TOPDAWG had a legitimate cable account with Rogers, he could possibly purchase one of these and have it activated by Rogers. He would of course have to verify the serial number with Rogers to ensure it is registered in their data base and that the previous customer had deactivated it on their account. A number of people have been burned by purchasing used boxes without first verifying that the box is legitimate and can be activated.

My point though still stands. Without a legitimate Cable account, there is no way that TOPDAWG will get any Rogers box activated, no matter where it is purchased!

Bingo, once rogers switches your area to "their digital" service you can no longer receive analogue or digital channels w/out a registered and activated rogers box