Timmn
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| New Video Card Issues Many years ago I built a computer using a MSI K8T Neo-FSR Motherboard
»www.msi.com/product/mb/K8T-Neo-F···S2R.html
It has a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ and 1 GB of memory.
About a month ago, the AGP video card literally exploded. I needed to get it up and running a quickly as possible, so I went to the local computer store to get another video card. He had no AGP cards in stock, but he did have a standard PCI card, which I bought. It was a Zotac ZT-40605-10L.
»www.zotacusa.com/geforce-gt-430-···10l.html
The card works fine, as long as you don't play any games or try and watch any videos. It's almost like the motherboard can't get the data to the video card fast enough. The videos are jerky, and sometimes they will freeze for a second or two, with the sound still going, and then it's like someone puts the video on fast forward until it catches up with the sound. I haven't myself tried to play any games, but have been told that the video is so bad that the games are unplayable.
The monitor is a HP2011x connected with a DVI cable.
Could this be a video card problem, or as I suspect, a problem with the motherboard not being able to get data to the video card fast enough, or maybe something else?
I looked at the reviews for the Zotac video card, and nobody mentioned any problems like this.
If you need any other information, please ask.
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| Get another AGP card.
Your choice because of convenience did not help. PCI is a basic communication channel, or out-dated hardware, if I may use the term. The AGP channel has accelerated processing for graphics specifically.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
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Timmn
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Tinley Park, IL | If that is the case, this is a relatively new card, why would anyone go through the trouble of designing and building a standard PCI video card if they know it's not going to work well? |
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| They are only built for older computers or server motherboards.
It will work fine, but if you want to game, then performance comes into it, and the old architecture is worthless with today's technology if you want to compare.
Not really useless, just built for a purpose, and gaming isn't it, but for general browsing etc it should be fine.
You can't by a VW beetle and expect it to perform like a V8, but it still has a lot of engineering for the right person, obviously not the boy racer though. 
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said by Timmn:a standard PCI video card Sorry, but I got a good chuckle out of that.
You've been out of the game for awhile huh? Welcome to 2013.
OK, sorry, I'm being a complete smart ass but I couldn't help myself there. Dude, Norwegian hit the nail on the head. You're talking about extremely outdated hardware here. Go get your money back and get the same card in AGP. A 1GB 430 is not that bad of a card. Your CPU will likely become the bottleneck, but it should work well enough. |
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You may have a few things working against you. One is definitely that it's a PCI card, but there may be more factors.
The board has a Via chipset, those are known to have fairly poor PCI performance, and latency issues compared to using say an nVidia or Intel chipset from the same era. If you have any other PCI cards installed they'll be sharing even more bandwidth over the PCI bus... in some situations you can make a PCI video card work but not if it's sharing bandwidth with other high(ish) bandwidth PCI cards, especially audio cards and extra-especially audio cards from Creative Labs, though on your board it looks like you also have a Realtek network adapter integrated onto the board, logically on the PCI bus while on later chipsets it might go through the southbridge instead.
There may also be a PCI latency setting you can adjust in the bios to make it a higher #, you might try around 96 to 128... it's been a few years since I've fiddled with a board like that, hopefully the numbers I gave are right but if they aren't, just chance the latency setting up and down a bit and see if that helps.
I hate to say it but it might be time to do a system upgrade, replacing PSU, motherboard, CPU, and memory. Modern integrated video can handle video playback fine, though you can always add a PCIe video card later if the gaming is demanding enough to need it. It just seems a shame to keep pouring money into such an old system, one that may not have much of a lifespan left to the point that the lower average yearly cost of computing could be cheaper to replace rather than keep repairing... plus there's the substantial performance benefit to be had from newer hardware even if it's not current generation stuff. |
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Timmn
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said by Dissembled:You've been out of the game for awhile huh? Welcome to 2013.
Yes, it's been quite a while, when I went into the local computer store and asked for a AGP video card, the guy (kid) behind the counter looked at me as if I were from Mars and said "Nobody buys those things anymore!".
I must admit, the last time I built a computer was about 2006, but they have all been working fine for my needs, until the capacitors blew up in the video card in this computer. |
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My last machine (I built my current rig in early 2011) was a 3700+ that I had built in 2006. It lasted me 5 years and was certainly dated when I did my rebuild, but it wasn't terrible. Anyway, at least I had PCIe slots on that machine. I was able to put a GTX275 in there and keep her running for a good while to keep up with some of the newer stuff that had come out.
With AGP though, you're very far behind. PCI was far behind in 2006. |
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I think the motherboard belongs in the Smithsonian. |
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First thing to do, if you are using the drivers that came with the card is to go to the zotac site and see if the latest driver for your specific model card is newer and update the driver if it is:
»www.zotac.com/support/download.html |
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