 | It's 2013, what is the status of IPv6 support on FIOS? Does anyone know? I was doing some reading about Comcast's roll-out of IPv6 support in their forum, and was fairly impressed. I love to try out new technology, but I like FIOS better than Comcast, so I'm torn here. Do I order a Comcast connection, just to play with IPv6, or wait for Verizon's roll-out?
According to Verizon's site, the router I have (ActionTec Rev. F) IS IPv6 capable, but I am unsure if that support requires a firmware update from Verizon or not. |
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 | I made a thread about this the rev-I router has the ipv6 I even have it enabled but won't acquire ipv6 address as of now , I just have it on so when the day comes I will simply see a different ip. |
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| reply to VirtualLarry Their IPv6 page still says 3Q12 (»www22.verizon.com/support/reside···8742.htm). I wish they would give us an update.
If you want to play around with IPv6 right now you can get a tunnel from Hurricane Electric (»tunnelbroker.net/). That is what I'm using until Verizon rolls out IPv6.
Hurricane Electric even has a few IPv6 exercises you can do to learn more about IPv6: »ipv6.he.net/certification/ |
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 | reply to VirtualLarry "Do I order a Comcast connection, just to play with IPv6, or wait for Verizon's roll-out?"
If you want to play with it just go to a tunnel broker like Hurricane Electric and play with IPv6 for free. -- I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company. |
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 | said by battleop:If you want to play with it just go to a tunnel broker like Hurricane Electric and play with IPv6 for free. Do I need to run BGP? I'm just a fairly-knowledgeable home router user. I'm not a network expert.
Is this something, once I sign up for a HE tunnel, that I can just punch into my E2500 router with Shibby Tomato 1.08?
I've been doing some reading lately, about firewall issues. Apparently, with IPv6, there is no NAT (well, it will see much less usage), and therefore, we are back to the olden days, where every PC on a local LAN will be directly exposed to the Internet.
I don't really want people sniffing around my home LAN, and accessing my NAS and other devices.
NAT was a really easy security panacea for home users. Kept the Internet out of home LANs. Now every home user will need to become a firewall expert with IPv6, and manage their home LANs like a corporate LAN does.
I expect with IPv6 wide-spread rollout, things will get worse with regard to security, before they get better.
I remember back when Windows 95 came out, and those with dial-up modems (and no software firewall!), would find out that random Internet users could connect to their PC through file and printer sharing, and access their files if they didn't have a strong password. |
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 derekivey join:2006-03-30 Mechanicsburg, PA kudos:1 | You don't need BGP. They give you a /64 to use that is routed to you. Tomato should work. I use pfSense. |
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 | reply to VirtualLarry said by VirtualLarry:I've been doing some reading lately, about firewall issues. Apparently, with IPv6, there is no NAT (well, it will see much less usage), and therefore, we are back to the olden days, where every PC on a local LAN will be directly exposed to the Internet. While I cant comment about your router, I can tell you that with my pfsence router running a tunnel through Hurricane Electric NONE of the PCs are exposed directly to the internet, they all have there own public IP address which is seen by servers on the internet but unless I explicitly allow a port through the firewall from the internet to a service running on a system all traffic inbound is blocked by default unless a request originates from that PC for a response. |
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 | reply to VirtualLarry I can't speak for the E2500 or Tomato because I'm using a Cisco 7206 at home right now. It's been quite a while since I've used it or set it up but if I remember correctly it was a simple GRE tunnel that was setup in a couple of minutes. Once you create your free account they have instructions on how to create tunnels to various routers. -- I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company. |
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 derekivey join:2006-03-30 Mechanicsburg, PA kudos:1 | reply to flashcore Exactly. All hosts have a publicly routable IPv6 address and you have to allow access via the firewall. Implicit deny will block everything by default and you explicitly allow whatever you want. |
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 1 edit | reply to VirtualLarry Found a guide for setting up Tomato IPv6 support using HE tunnel (tunnelbroker.net) : »www.linksysinfo.org/index.php?th···r.35297/
Worked fine for my wired PC, but my PCs on my livingroom LAN, behind a wireless ethernet bridge, aren't showing valid IPv6 addresses on test-ipv6.com for some reason. Even though IPCONFIG /ALL shows the PC pulling IPv6 addresses from the router.
(Wireless ethernet bridge is an E2500 Cisco router, with Shibby Tomato 1.08, configured for wireless bridge mode, to another E2500 with Tomato, that is doing the 6to4 tunneling.) |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM join:2005-09-26 West Chester, PA kudos:25 | said by VirtualLarry:my PCs on my livingroom LAN, behind an ethernet bridge, aren't showing valid IPv6 addresses on test-ipv6.com What do you mean by "ethernet bridge"? Do you mean an ethernet switch? Or a MOCA adapter? Or a router in "bridge" mode? Please be specific. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.
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 | reply to battleop said by battleop:...I'm using a Cisco 7206 at home right now. Good God man...don't you think a 7206 is a little over kill for a home router? Those things were $32K when we bought ours in 2007. |
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 aa2k join:2000-10-06 Damascus, MD 1 edit | reply to VirtualLarry Hi, Question, My Fios router is MI424WR ver D at home (and according to »www22.verizon.com/support/reside···8742.htm it seems this router is not ipv6 capable). So, since I am getting an asa5505 soon thinking on playing with ipv6 from Hurricane Electric, is it possible by doing a port forward to the asa firewall (connecting a test LAN to the asa inside)? maybe forwarding protocol 41 to the asa (or any other protocols)? I wanted to start playing/testing around with IPv6... strictly educational purpose.. |
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 | reply to VirtualLarry I have a tunnel from he.net which works very nicely but it would still be great if Verizon could get off their A$$ and provide native dual stack. I pay out the you know what (business svc + statics) right now and am very disappointed at their lack of support for IPV6. |
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 | reply to battleop Sounds like me. I've got a Juniper SRX210 fronting my FiOS connection and tunnel to SixXS.  -- -Frosty, KA1FOX |
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 mloebl join:2003-01-03 Tyngsboro, MA | reply to VirtualLarry I've been playing with just 6to4 enabled in my firewall for awhile with FIOS, and works fine. Not the fastest (usually 100ms to ipv6.google.com), but enough for me to play.
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