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cbrooker

join:2013-04-02

Crappy neighbourhood - How can you convince the powers that

Hey,

It seems I have recently moved into an neighbourhood that is pretty much an internet black hole.
Too far from the station, line noise, etc. I was just wondering if anyone knew a way to get someone to address that situation?

Is there a way to petition Bell or Rogers to upgrade the lines or improve the neighbourhood's service?

I'm currently stuck at 15/1 with no possible way to move up, ever, without upgrades.


donoreo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON

Stuck at 15/1? That is not bad. There are many who still cannot get 6.


cbrooker

join:2013-04-02

reply to cbrooker
I can get 10/9 on my cell phone! Just did a speed test (LTE). How can it even be permitted that people can only get 6? It's crazy.

Is there anything that can be done?

Google Fiber, please come to Canada!


yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:1

reply to cbrooker
If you live in a Rogers area, all their tiers you see on their website should be available. Rogers has the same packages regardless of geography.



Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..

reply to cbrooker

said by cbrooker:

I can get 10/9 on my cell phone! Just did a speed test (LTE). How can it even be permitted that people can only get 6? It's crazy.

I can get 50/50 on my cell phone over LTE, yet that same area can't get any DSL faster than 6. Bitching about 15/1 is rather amusing to see, haha.

lleader

join:2011-01-01
Mississauga, ON

reply to donoreo

said by donoreo:

Stuck at 15/1? That is not bad. There are many who still cannot get 6.


My nephew can only get dial-up. He would kill for 6...

alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON

reply to cbrooker
I can only get up to 6Mbit Bell DSL in my neighbourhood for some reason. It's pretty ridiculous. Cable on the other hand, I can get up to 150Mbps.


bt

join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..

reply to cbrooker

said by cbrooker:

How can it even be permitted that people can only get 6?

Try "can't even get 6". Plenty of areas that can order 5M DSL (since it's the slowest available to order these days), but only get 2-3M service.

vintagewino

join:2003-07-22
Grimsby, ON
kudos:2
Reviews:
·magicjack.com
·TekSavvy DSL

reply to cbrooker
DSL 6m/800k here is 3008/512 fastpath. To go any faster, needs interleave. What's worse, d/l varies from 3800-5300. Maximum theorized u/l is 810k, but not stable, either. Reason is 40+ year old F2 line that Bhell won't replace. 4km from CO, no remotes.


cbrooker

join:2013-04-02

reply to cbrooker
Going from Telus Fiber 100/100 to Bell 25/10 to 15/1 is what makes it the most painful. Max 15/1 in Toronto :S

I know there are people out there suffering with barely internet connection and I think it's crazy. What can we do to improve the internet situation in major Canadian cities? People shouldn't have to suffer with 6/1, they shouldn't have to suffer with 25/10.

We can do better.


FiberToTheX

join:2013-03-14

said by cbrooker:

Going from Telus Fiber 100/100 to Bell 25/10 to 15/1 is what makes it the most painful. Max 15/1 in Toronto :S

I know there are people out there suffering with barely internet connection and I think it's crazy. What can we do to improve the internet situation in major Canadian cities? People shouldn't have to suffer with 6/1, they shouldn't have to suffer with 25/10.

We can do better.

Telus @ Cityplace offers 100/5 currently at 100 Dollars with a 300Gb cap that is rumored to be unenforced. It once was 100/100 with no caps and around $60 dollars (pre-2009).

The Maximum offered in my area is Legacy DSL whereas all Cable Internet plans are available (from what I have seen). I'm in Richmond Hill to so I am not in a rural hard-to-reach area and Yes I do suffer with a similar problem of not having access to FTTN although If Bell adheres to their projections/roadmap perhaps the situation would change by 2015.

There's alot of things that should be done to reduce the Oligpoly stranglehold on Copper and Coax lines:

1. Seperate the Content and Internet Divisions of Shaw/Telus/Bell/Rogers/Bell Aliant
2. Restrict Oligpoly influence on CRTC or disband CRTC and replace with modern equivalent.
3. Allow foreign ISP's to invest in Canadian infastructure and Internet services (ex Verizon , Google , Telia , etc...)
4. Make the lines owned by Bell/Rogers/Telus/Shaw open-access and not owned by any company. This way companies can rent the lines but not claim ownership (including Dark Fiber deployed throughout Ontario)
5. Remove caps and throttling (both apply)
6. Create incentives to deploy FTTH perhaps in the form of tax-breaks or corporate tax-cuts
7. Bar companies from price-fixing or conspiring to price-fix.
8. Regularly have 3rd party reports and studies conduct reports and updates on Canada's development of broadband and create a benchmark in comparison to highly-developed broadband countries.
9. Enforce fines and strict regulation for any company caught violating regulations.
10. Make the regulatory commission transparent and regularly audited.

fromage

join:2003-03-31

reply to donoreo
there was a time i couldn't get 3mbps fast path when everyone else was getting 5mbps upgrade.


Micha3615

join:2004-08-21
Mississauga, ON

reply to cbrooker
It's even worst for me - Moving to a house that's about a 1km from my current house and I'm going from 50/10 to 5/0.8

Now that's bad lol but what can you do, I will have to sign up for Cable with Start since Teksavvy doesn't have the 45/4 connection yet in my area.



FTTHTechie

@axxent.ca

said by Micha3615:

It's even worst for me - Moving to a house that's about a 1km from my current house and I'm going from 50/10 to 5/0.8

Now that's bad lol but what can you do, I will have to sign up for Cable with Start since Teksavvy doesn't have the 45/4 connection yet in my area.

said by Micha3615:

It's even worst for me - Moving to a house that's about a 1km from my current house and I'm going from 50/10 to 5/0.8

Now that's bad lol but what can you do, I will have to sign up for Cable with Start since Teksavvy doesn't have the 45/4 connection yet in my area.

I'm surprised that it makes such a difference in Mississauga. However I have some friends in Markham and they qualify for 25/10 in a few areas and my area only qualifies for up to 5/0.8 Legacy DSL but all Cable plans are available in my area.

I'm sure the situation will change perhaps by the end of the decade or sooner with their FTTN roll-out and deployment but it looks like at the moment you would have to use Cable until they deploy a fiber run to a remote.


oxymoron69

join:2004-11-10
Corbyville, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·FreePhoneLine

reply to cbrooker
I live in a great neighborhood outside of the city, the cable company will only sell me TV no internet. There's never been a reason given by cogeco.

Bell sells me a 6 meg line that syncs around 1.8 down /640 up

I have a teksavvy line for backup that's 800k down / 320 up.

I'd kill for your service


maxboha

join:2012-05-12
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·Cooptel

reply to cbrooker

said by cbrooker:

Hey,

It seems I have recently moved into an neighbourhood that is pretty much an internet black hole.
Too far from the station, line noise, etc. I was just wondering if anyone knew a way to get someone to address that situation?

Is there a way to petition Bell or Rogers to upgrade the lines or improve the neighbourhood's service?

I'm currently stuck at 15/1 with no possible way to move up, ever, without upgrades.

I cant get more than 6 megabit/s, already tried for our neighboorhood, got 150 sign, bell dosent give a shit.


FTTHTechie

@axxent.ca

reply to cbrooker
Took a drive in Richmond Hill and saw not too far away from a couple of neighborhoods with remotes. I wasn't able to take a picture of their remote type but I remembered their address and checked with Start.ca and TekSavvy and they qualify for 50/10 in some of them.

What's more interesting is that Google Maps street view imagery shows their JWI as being without Remotes as of 2011 so sometime between possibly 2012 and even 2013 they had likely 7330's remotes installed.


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