raphaeldPremium
join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON | [Cable] Speeds From Europe Terrible at night Anyone notice the speeds from Europe are just horrible at night? i decided to do a speedtest at around noon and a speedtest now at 9pm.
The below link is at i3d, a dutch gaming host company. and before you whine that I should be downloading from a closer source, that's not the point...
»mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0···-hybrid/
At around noon it almost maxes my 28mbit. Right now the test is going at 35KB/sec which is just sad. I'm in an apartment building and my neighbor who has rogers cable get's almost 3mb/sec doing this same test.
Will this ever be fixed? the speeds have gradually got worse and worse...
fyi, I'm on the McN poi |
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| the speeds from Europe is bad for everyone (TSI, Rogers, Videotron ....)
The problem is the routing via the link btw NY and EU |
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| It's going through Underwater/Submarine cables to reach the EU. Take a look at this video:
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamX6XwlQyg
Even with Google Fiber it slows down by the time it reaches London. Skip to 3:15. |
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raphaeldPremium
join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON | reply to raphaeld
2 things to counter those 2
it only happens at night here
its fine when testing with rogers or bell
it's also 3am in europe depending where you are so it's not their peak time |
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 vitesse
join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC | reply to raphaeld
Curently I max out my connection (64mbps) on cable.
I'm not with TSI, but another IISP and they use Peer1 at NY to connect to this website |
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 ·TekSavvy Cable
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Its fine here on rogers 150/10.
I can keep adding more and it will max out at 18MB/s |
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raphaeldPremium
join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON | yes exactly, my point 
if i add 1 more it goes to 15/20 KB/sec. Speed returns to normal around 1am until 3-4pm EST. Pretty much when I sleep/work. |
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·TekSavvy Cable
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Here my tracert from rogers.
Tracing route to mirror.i3d.net [213.163.76.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms 7.2.120.1
2 10 ms 19 ms 11 ms 24.156.151.97
3 13 ms 15 ms 12 ms 69.63.249.185
4 28 ms 25 ms 26 ms 24.156.147.250
5 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms xe-2-0-0.er1.lga5.us.above.net [64.124.128.193]
6 25 ms 24 ms 45 ms xe-5-1-0.cr1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.30.205]
7 25 ms 41 ms 26 ms xe-1-0-0.cr2.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.29.46]
8 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms xe-0-0-1.er4.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.24.169]
9 29 ms 27 ms 30 ms L3-Zayo.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.13.30]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 111 ms 101 ms 99 ms interactive.edge4.London1.Level3.net [212.113.8.
46]
16 104 ms 102 ms 101 ms 40ge-1-1.br3.smartdc.i3d.net [188.122.95.85]
17 102 ms 100 ms 99 ms mirror.i3d.net [213.163.76.200]
Trace complete.
This is without VPN or anything like that, just direct from rogers.
Teksavvy has bad transit, that's all I can say. |
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shaded
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON Reviews:
 ·Start Communicat..
1 edit | it's likely a capacity issue with TSI's transit providers. being underwater or not makes no difference, and the distance simply increases latency.
i guess it could always be TSI having capacity issues on their network or with their providers too. |
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 JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:2 | reply to technocar2
I used to have the same issues when I had a server in Europe so I switched to a server in the US. |
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shaded
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
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here are some results, it should be noted that the return path and the path being used to send the data from a download could be different: my server in Montreal off OVH: justin@kif:~$ traceroute mirror.i3d.net
traceroute to mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 * * *
2 bhs-g1-6k.qc.ca (198.27.73.13) 0.547 ms * *
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 ams-1-6k.nl.eu (213.251.128.6) 82.376 ms * *
6 20ge.ams-ix.i3d.net (195.69.144.162) 82.357 ms 82.389 ms 83.046 ms
7 30ge.cr1.smartdc.i3d.net (109.200.218.86) 83.622 ms 83.203 ms 83.097 ms
8 30ge-1-2.br2.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.84) 95.006 ms 40ge-1-1.br3.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.85) 100.884 ms 87.543 ms
9 mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200) 83.999 ms 84.008 ms 83.836 ms
justin@kif:~$ wget http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
--2013-04-03 22:40:21-- http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
Resolving mirror.i3d.net (mirror.i3d.net)... 2a00:1630:1:13d::13d, 213.163.76.200
Connecting to mirror.i3d.net (mirror.i3d.net)|2a00:1630:1:13d::13d|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 295698432 (282M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso'
100%[================================================================================== >] 295,698,432 8.66M/s in 38s
2013-04-03 22:40:59 (7.34 MB/s) - `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso' saved [295698432/295698432]
my server in NYC off HE.net: justin@waffle:~$ traceroute mirror.i3d.net
traceroute to mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 nyc.rt2.cyberwarp.net (209.51.166.121) 0.574 ms 0.624 ms 0.750 ms
2 v103.core1.nyc1.he.net (216.66.30.217) 3.552 ms 3.606 ms 3.656 ms
3 10gigabitethernet5-3.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.49) 10.069 ms 10.067 ms 10.056 ms
4 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.lon1.he.net (72.52.92.242) 75.688 ms 75.684 ms 75.813 ms
5 10ge.linx.i3d.net (195.66.225.146) 76.491 ms 76.869 ms 76.468 ms
6 40ge-1-2.br3.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.93) 76.819 ms 30ge-1-1.br2.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.92) 76.463 ms 40ge-1-2.br3.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.93) 78.798 ms
7 mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200) 77.404 ms 77.400 ms 77.593 ms
justin@waffle:~$ wget http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
--2013-04-03 22:42:57-- http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
Resolving mirror.i3d.net... 213.163.76.200, 2a00:1630:1:13d::13d
Connecting to mirror.i3d.net|213.163.76.200|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 295698432 (282M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso'
100%[================================================================================== >] 295,698,432 9.67M/s in 30s
2013-04-03 22:43:27 (9.38 MB/s) - `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso' saved [295698432/295698432]
FINISHED --2013-04-03 22:43:27--
Downloaded: 1 files, 282M in 30s (9.38 MB/s)
from my home DSL with Start.ca: (messy traceroute thanks to Cogent) traceroute mirror.i3d.net
traceroute to mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 dd-wrt (192.168.1.1) 0.404 ms 0.165 ms 0.181 ms
2 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1) 1.016 ms 0.677 ms 0.705 ms
3 64.140.112.15 (64.140.112.15) 15.145 ms 15.186 ms 14.949 ms
4 * * *
5 204.101.4.193 (204.101.4.193) 92.884 ms 14.719 ms 14.538 ms
6 bx6-chicago23_pos0-3-0-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.186.202) 35.915 ms
bx6-chicago23_pos0-2-0-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.186.198) 33.872 ms 32.415 ms
7 te4-1.ccr01.ord09.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.29) 105.041 ms * *
8 te3-5.mag02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.193) 33.318 ms
te3-5.mag01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.189) 32.873 ms
te3-5.mag02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.193) 32.838 ms
9 te0-5-0-3.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.45.193) 33.236 ms 32.650 ms
te0-5-0-7.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.81.229) 33.050 ms
10 te0-2-0-5.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.43.198) 45.308 ms
te0-3-0-3.mpd21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.10) 32.811 ms
te0-7-0-13.ccr21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.28.2) 32.980 ms
11 te0-4-0-5.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.43.218) 41.544 ms
te0-3-0-3.ccr22.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.25.30) 40.343 ms
te0-4-0-3.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.190) 109.763 ms
12 te0-3-0-6.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.142) 110.764 ms
te0-6-0-4.mpd21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.38.49) 118.333 ms
te0-5-0-4.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.87.61) 110.744 ms
13 te0-6-0-2.mpd22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.66) 120.320 ms
te2-1.ccr01.rtm01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.48.234) 121.092 ms
te4-2.ccr01.rtm01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.63.122) 120.513 ms
14 te4-2.ccr01.rtm01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.63.122) 122.264 ms
te2-1.ccr01.rtm03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.62.130) 119.910 ms
te3-8.ccr01.rtm01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.63.114) 122.825 ms
15 149.14.14.10 (149.14.14.10) 118.114 ms
te2-1.ccr01.rtm03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.62.130) 121.805 ms
te2-2.ccr01.rtm03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.62.134) 122.559 ms
16 30ge-1-2.br2.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.84) 126.986 ms
149.14.14.18 (149.14.14.18) 120.817 ms
149.6.110.2 (149.6.110.2) 120.687 ms
17 40ge-1-2.br3.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.93) 126.378 ms
mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200) 119.742 ms
40ge-1-1.br3.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.85) 120.467 ms
wget http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
--2013-04-03 22:45:06-- http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
Resolving mirror.i3d.net... 213.163.76.200, 2a00:1630:1:13d::13d
Connecting to mirror.i3d.net|213.163.76.200|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 295698432 (282M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso’
100%[================================================================================== >] 295,698,432 2.45MB/s in 2m 16s
2013-04-03 22:47:22 (2.08 MB/s) - ‘debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso’ saved [295698432/295698432]
FINISHED --2013-04-03 22:47:22--
Total wall clock time: 2m 16s
Downloaded: 1 files, 282M in 2m 16s (2.08 MB/s)
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raphaeldPremium
join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON | reply to shaded
yes shaded, thank you for understanding what I was trying to say. I was hoping there would be some way TSI would improve this. Using TSI to stream european language tv shows is almost mpossible. |
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shaded
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
| said by raphaeld:yes shaded, thank you for understanding what I was trying to say. I was hoping there would be some way TSI would improve this. Using TSI to stream european language tv shows is almost mpossible.
when I was with TSI i had a lot of issues with watching streams even from the US with twitch.tv. |
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·TekSavvy Cable
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Yeah, there are no excuses for having crappy transit, funny there are no comments from Teksavvy or Teksavvy fanboys...lol 
If this was on rogers you'd see a fury of people dissing rogers like there is no tomorrow on the rogers forum.
Goes to show Teksavvy still has a good reputation as an ISP but it can only get bad if issues like this continue. |
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shaded
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON | there was a twitch thread going for months, pretty sure nothing ended up happening which is why i left. |
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raphaeldPremium
join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON | I will be making an exit shortly also. I only use 50gigs a month at most and I pay for unlimited based on principal for a few years now. It's just a waste of money now and pretty frustrating and silly to use my neighbors wifi (who uses a competitor) to actually download something faster. |
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| reply to raphaeld
28/1 Cable Connection Here's a traceroute of the server: |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.1.1 - 9 | 189 | 172 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 |
| 10.124.6.129 - 0 | 341 | 341 | 7 | 9 | 82 | 9 |
| 67.231.222.25 - 0 | 341 | 341 | 9 | 14 | 86 | 13 |
| fallowfield2.cable.teksavvy.com - 0 | 341 | 341 | 7 | 11 | 105 | 9 |
| fallowfield1.cable.teksavvy.com - 0 | 341 | 341 | 13 | 17 | 104 | 14 |
| 10gigabitethernet4-1.core1.tor1.he.net - 0 | 341 | 341 | 13 | 18 | 89 | 24 |
| 10gigabitethernet10-7.core1.nyc4.he.net - 0 | 341 | 341 | 22 | 28 | 95 | 24 |
| 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.lon1.he.net - 0 | 341 | 341 | 91 | 97 | 172 | 94 |
| 10ge.linx.i3d.net - 0 | 341 | 341 | 98 | 104 | 173 | 99 |
| 40ge-1-2.br3.smartdc.i3d.net - 0 | 341 | 341 | 99 | 105 | 163 | 100 |
| mirror.i3d.net - 0 | 341 | 341 | 99 | 103 | 177 | 104 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
And wget results. H:\>wget http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-l
ive-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
--03:23:16-- http://mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0.7-live/i386/iso-hybrid/deb
ian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso
=> `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso'
Resolving mirror.i3d.net... 213.163.76.200
Connecting to mirror.i3d.net[213.163.76.200]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 295,698,432 [application/octet-stream]
100%[====================================>] 295,698,432 1.39M/s ETA 00:00
03:26:44 (1.36 MB/s) - `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso' saved [295698432/29
5698432]
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shaded
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON | 3:30am is kind of late, see if you can run that at ~9-10PM. |
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raphaeldPremium
join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON | yes, please try from: 5pm - 11pm |
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