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raphaeld
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join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON

[Cable] Speeds From Europe Terrible at night

Anyone notice the speeds from Europe are just horrible at night? i decided to do a speedtest at around noon and a speedtest now at 9pm.

The below link is at i3d, a dutch gaming host company. and before you whine that I should be downloading from a closer source, that's not the point...
»mirror.i3d.net/pub/debian-cd/6.0 ··· -hybrid/

At around noon it almost maxes my 28mbit. Right now the test is going at 35KB/sec which is just sad. I'm in an apartment building and my neighbor who has rogers cable get's almost 3mb/sec doing this same test.

Will this ever be fixed? the speeds have gradually got worse and worse...

fyi, I'm on the McN poi

pldube

join:2011-06-11
canada
the speeds from Europe is bad for everyone (TSI, Rogers, Videotron ....)

The problem is the routing via the link btw NY and EU


FiberToTheX
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It's going through Underwater/Submarine cables to reach the EU. Take a look at this video:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamX6Xwl ··· X6XwlQyg


Even with Google Fiber it slows down by the time it reaches London. Skip to 3:15.

raphaeld
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join:2011-03-20
Scarborough, ON
reply to raphaeld
2 things to counter those 2

it only happens at night here
its fine when testing with rogers or bell

it's also 3am in europe depending where you are so it's not their peak time


vitesse

join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC
reply to raphaeld
Curently I max out my connection (64mbps) on cable.

I'm not with TSI, but another IISP and they use Peer1 at NY to connect to this website

technocar2

join:2009-05-29
Brampton, ON
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reply to raphaeld
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Its fine here on rogers 150/10.
I can keep adding more and it will max out at 18MB/s

raphaeld
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Scarborough, ON
yes exactly, my point

if i add 1 more it goes to 15/20 KB/sec. Speed returns to normal around 1am until 3-4pm EST. Pretty much when I sleep/work.

technocar2

join:2009-05-29
Brampton, ON
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reply to raphaeld
Here my tracert from rogers.

This is without VPN or anything like that, just direct from rogers.
Teksavvy has bad transit, that's all I can say.


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it's likely a capacity issue with TSI's transit providers. being underwater or not makes no difference, and the distance simply increases latency.

i guess it could always be TSI having capacity issues on their network or with their providers too.


JCohen
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Nepean, ON
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reply to technocar2
I used to have the same issues when I had a server in Europe so I switched to a server in the US.


jmck
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here are some results, it should be noted that the return path and the path being used to send the data from a download could be different:

my server in Montreal off OVH:

my server in NYC off HE.net:

from my home DSL with Start.ca: (messy traceroute thanks to Cogent)

raphaeld
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Scarborough, ON
reply to jmck
yes shaded, thank you for understanding what I was trying to say. I was hoping there would be some way TSI would improve this. Using TSI to stream european language tv shows is almost mpossible.


jmck
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said by raphaeld:

yes shaded, thank you for understanding what I was trying to say. I was hoping there would be some way TSI would improve this. Using TSI to stream european language tv shows is almost mpossible.

when I was with TSI i had a lot of issues with watching streams even from the US with twitch.tv.

technocar2

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Brampton, ON
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reply to raphaeld
Yeah, there are no excuses for having crappy transit, funny there are no comments from Teksavvy or Teksavvy fanboys...lol

If this was on rogers you'd see a fury of people dissing rogers like there is no tomorrow on the rogers forum.
Goes to show Teksavvy still has a good reputation as an ISP but it can only get bad if issues like this continue.


jmck
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Ottawa, ON
there was a twitch thread going for months, pretty sure nothing ended up happening which is why i left.

raphaeld
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Scarborough, ON
I will be making an exit shortly also. I only use 50gigs a month at most and I pay for unlimited based on principal for a few years now. It's just a waste of money now and pretty frustrating and silly to use my neighbors wifi (who uses a competitor) to actually download something faster.


ryangard

join:2006-02-21
reply to raphaeld
28/1 Cable Connection

Here's a traceroute of the server:


And wget results.


jmck
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Ottawa, ON
3:30am is kind of late, see if you can run that at ~9-10PM.

raphaeld
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Scarborough, ON
yes, please try from: 5pm - 11pm

Webslinger

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reply to raphaeld
said by raphaeld:

fyi, I'm on the McN poi

Well, 'nuff said, really, no? It was horrible on McNicoll before migration. Any better now?

quote:
yes, please try from: 5pm - 11pm
Okay. I can hit 5.3 MB/s after migration from the former McNicoll POI right now, provided I'm downloading enough files. But the best I can get is 2.2MB/s on a single file.

Seems fine to me. But really, I should be testing around 9:30 p.m.

technocar2

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said by Webslinger:

Seems fine to me. But really, I should be testing around 9:30 p.m.

OP said its nightly slowdowns; so you have to test during that time.

Webslinger

join:2004-05-01
said by technocar2:

said by Webslinger:

Seems fine to me. But really, I should be testing around 9:30 p.m.

OP said its nightly slowdowns; so you have to test during that time.

Yeah, I'll be trying again around 9:30 p.m., which was when McNicoll used to suck horribly every single night since February.

Webslinger

join:2004-05-01

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Around 9:50 p.m.

I also tested around 8:30 p.m. Similar results

Seems fine to me.

I had an open ticket from February until the migration in April on the McNicoll POI for horribly sucky congestion from approximately 9:30 p.m. until 11 p.m. EST (sometimes started much earlier though).

After migration to aggregated, I'm not noticing much of anything that's bugging me.

The original problem has to be POI congestion. raphaeld was on McNicoll too.

It will be interesting to see what happens after every POI migrates. I certainly hope congestion does not return.


jmck
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Ottawa, ON
and a single transfer at a time?

Webslinger

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said by jmck:

and a single transfer at a time?

Well, a single transfer can't max your connection. Basically 2.2 MB/s. With about 5 threads on the same file, I get anywhere from 2.7 to 3 MB/s.

It's a server limit.


jmck
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it's not a server limit, i linked earlier in the thread a single download coming down at 95Mbit/sec. multiple connections at once is a good way to get through congestion.

Webslinger

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said by jmck:

it's not a server limit

Missed that

Wow.


jmck
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my results from two servers and my home connection on another ISP tonight (note the the results are in megabytes/sec and not megabits/sec).

2013-04-22 00:28:54 (8.98 MB/s) - `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso' saved [295698432/295698432]

2013-04-22 00:30:24 (4.16 MB/s) - `debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso' saved [295698432/295698432]

2013-04-22 00:32:14 (2.96 MB/s) - ‘debian-live-6.0.7-i386-standard.iso’ saved [295698432/295698432]

what's interesting is my second server did the transfer over ipv6 since mirror.i3d.net does ipv6 too apparently.


jmck
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reply to Webslinger
said by Webslinger:

Missed that

Wow.

well regardless, it seems to be quite a bit faster than previously mentioned (1-3Mbit/sec)?

Webslinger

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said by jmck:

well regardless, it seems to be quite a bit faster than previously mentioned (1-3Mbit/sec)?

I'm getting 2.3 MB/s right now with a single connection to a single file. And the OP was on the same POI that I was on, so chances are the situation has improved for the OP since the migration.

But I wouldn't expect to experience congestion at this time of night, locally, anyway.

Nexicom at 12:41 a.m. (on 45/4):


Local Toronto Speedtest results are usually poorest between 9:30 p.m. and 11 p.m. for me. I often get better results from St. Catharines and Oakville speedtest servers during those times.

traceroute to mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 10.124.158.129 (10.124.158.129) 9.560 ms 9.599 ms 10.585 ms
2 24.156.135.73 (24.156.135.73) 19.307 ms 111.546 ms 17.473 ms
3 69.63.248.201 (69.63.248.201) 18.230 ms 19.573 ms 22.893 ms
4 69.196.136.36 (69.196.136.36) 16.499 ms 18.198 ms 2120.ae1.bdr04.tor.packetflow.ca (69.196.136.68) 13.641 ms
5 10gigabitethernet1-2.core2.tor1.he.net (209.51.191.173) 20.014 ms 17.912 ms 13.238 ms
6 10gigabitethernet10-3.core1.nyc4.he.net (184.105.223.173) 23.675 ms 31.944 ms 26.025 ms
7 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.lon1.he.net (72.52.92.242) 94.662 ms 101.177 ms 102.338 ms
8 10ge.linx.i3d.net (195.66.225.146) 102.334 ms 109.218 ms 101.820 ms
9 30ge-1-1.br2.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.92) 449.932 ms 40ge-1-2.br3.smartdc.i3d.net (188.122.95.93) 112.676 ms 115.233 ms
10 mirror.i3d.net (213.163.76.200) 99.933 ms 98.967 ms 99.928 ms