| Little guys leading the way for smaller population areas Isn't the real question, "How do so many small and medium sized telcos manage to bring all-fiber to their customers, while the big boys seem to have such a hard time doing it for their smaller metro area customers?" |
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openbox9Premium
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kudos:2 | The big boys don't have a problem doing it, they're just doing it slowly. The real question is how accurate is a survey of estimations in achieving this 20% savings? |
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@wideopenwest.com | Easy... Pass it on to the customer, 30% and make more! |
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It is a good thought, but what would the costs be to go thru my subdivision of around 2k homes and for the most part total buried plant, i.e. electric, CATV, and telephone. The expenses would be very high to dig up back yards, either open cut or bore existing streets, if permits for such can be obtained. I suspect that the cost per foot in my subdivision for just the trenching would be in excess of $10 - $15 per foot, especially since there is almost solid rock (limestone) 6 inches under the grass. |
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It's easier to paint one house than it is the entire neighborhood. |
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said by openbox9:The big boys don't have a problem doing it, they're just doing it slowly. The real question is how accurate is a survey of estimations in achieving this 20% savings?
This news item can explain why telcos go slow on new and upgraded infrastructure - the cost and the low payback.
»www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/04···ex_fail/ |
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A lot of the little guys don't really have a choice. Many of them operate ADSL2+ or even regular ADSL and have hit a road block for speed. They need to do something because the wireline business is all they have and many would like to expand to the TV market which is difficult to do when you have ADSL2+ or ADSL. Not impossible, but not practical long term. So it is either VDSL or Fiber, and these choose fiber. |
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| said by silbaco:A lot of the little guys don't really have a choice. ... They need to do something because the wireline business is all they have ... Exactly.
AT&T and Verizon are finding much juicier returns on wireless. If they didn't have wireless, then they might be considering wider rollouts of FTTP.
In some sense, the iPhone killed FTTP. |
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Canonsburg, PA | reply to Bob61571
said by Bob61571: Isn't the real question, "How do so many small and medium sized telcos manage to bring all-fiber to their customers, while the big boys seem to have such a hard time doing it for their smaller metro area customers?"
One answer to that question is that that some small telcos have been allowed to replace their copper infrastructure with fiber while the large telcos have had to do "last mile" fiber overbuilds except for "greenfields" or disaster replacement. |
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The big guys don't believe in customer satisfaction. They believe in money. Pools of money.
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said by Bob61571: Isn't the real question, "How do so many small and medium sized telcos manage to bring all-fiber to their customers, while the big boys seem to have such a hard time doing it for their smaller metro area customers?"
Many municipalities gave millions of dollars to deploy FTTP only to get cherry picked & dropped years later in broken promises. These same large corporations use every possible reason including the bad economy as an excuse to be anti-competitive and keep raking in millions of dollars while offering little value to the consumer. AT&T and CentryTel are probably the worst offenders, but blame can even be laid at the doorstep of Verizon which has the largest north American FTTP footprint the country.
Sell more cheap gear to Google and get them a bump outside of the 3 states that they have a presence in (CA, MO, KS). I'm thinking NJ-- perfect to give Verizon & Comcast a black eye at the same time. |
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Covington, GA | reply to Bob61571
If it was such a great investment wiring every home with fiber, certainly there would be investors for that and a business to do such a thing. No one is stopping Google from expanding. Wire the country with 1gig symmetrical. After all...it's a great investment right... |
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