Why would you need encrypted SMS? Unlesss your pushing drugs, or selling them, or talking to little boys or girls, like some of the red people like to say, if you are doing nothing wrong, then you should not need encryption.

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hitachi369
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2013-Apr-4 3:16 pm

LOL, the if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide approach...

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Because me telling my wife about what I'm going to do to her tonight, and the amount of lube we're going to need to pick up on the way home, is none of the NSAs business. Or do you think it is?

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atuarre
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LOL, the if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide approach...

I don't agree with it but every time you try to beat the drum of privacy that's the first thing I'm used to hearing!

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2013-Apr-4 3:25 pm

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Upload your SMS history and give us a link

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said by hitachi369:

LOL, the if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide approach...

Never fails to be the first counter-argument to be any privacy push.

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LOL, the if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide approach...

Then why fight the "cold war" which I think someone said was about freedom or something like that??? I think one thing they keep pointing out was government surveillance of phone calls??? It's just the US has better tech then they did back then.

The US taxes everything in sight to make things equal??? Isn't that communism???

Still can figure out why the cold war was fought???

For those of you to young to know about all this cold war stuff the US is acting very much like the commies of back then....»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th ··· anifesto

A little reading to get you going.

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2013-Apr-4 3:39 pm

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Maybe because it's been proven time and again that private information sent in the clear is constantly being dragnetted by various parties for various reasons, whether they have any interest in YOUR information or not, without you consent or even your knowledge?

And I'm not solely talking about either of government, law enforcement, business, private or illicit entities at any given moment.

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RE: Think of the children!
Fun fact: The people who think of the children that much, usually get busted for pervy things. Or abuse their kids or were abused by their parents/relations.

The biggest 'scared of homosexuals' people in congress/senate will eventually get busted for being homosexual. Michelle Bachmann did cure her husband of being gay for the time being. Marcus Bachmann runs a 'gay to straight' conversion company. Nasty Nasty man he is.

There was an unconstitutional Bill up in Canada that the title was "protecting children from internet stuff". Except it had nothing about children in it and it was all about creating a massive data-base of everyones internet communications.
An Canadian article recently also had a Judges decision that the police need a wiretapping warrant above a regular warrant to download peoples IM history and other digital communications stuff.

Meanwhile Internet companies in America keep rerouting their customers communications into that massive government data center for profit(called the George Bush Jr memorial library?) .
Corporations are 100% corrupt and enjoying breaking constitutional law without any penalty.

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said by coma9:

Because me telling my wife about what I'm going to do to her tonight, and the amount of lube we're going to need to pick up on the way home, is none of the NSAs business. Or do you think it is?

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Encryption isn't just for people "doing wrong"

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said by coma9:

Because me telling my wife about what I'm going to do to her tonight, and the amount of lube we're going to need to pick up on the way home, is none of the NSAs business. Or do you think it is?

Some of those acts may be illegal in certain states.

/facepalm.

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There probably already is a link, if you can find it. Wait... did I break TOS?

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I always argue that if you aren't pushing drugs, or selling them, or talking to little boys or girls then the government shouldn't be monitoring you in the first place

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Re: Encryption on Android

This is all too true. Some people require encryption due to the job they have, and these are all legal and require to be safe, cell phone, landline, and the internet (VPN for one thing), so secret information is not transmitted in the clear.

Is the government in the business of attempting to spy on legitimate businesses in an attempt to create emminent domain issues and steal ideas and products for government use without actually PAYING for it? (one wingnut theory)

This type of behavior is right out of the iron curtain. It is far to open to abuse as current behavior indicates, and should be halted immediately. The only good being served by this is government attempting to avoid being prosecuted for rights violations.

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It is or how else will they be able to get the cameras in place in time to watch???!??!?

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Utah's good. The wife and I can do what ever we want

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I would like to do that to give our government a hard time and make them think I'm doing something bad, and yes I have something to hide I'm guilty of 'thought crimes'

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I don't want the government finding out about my Harry Potter collection!

The why do you need it if you're not doing anything wrong argument is BS. Why do I need a Smith & Wesson if I'm not doing anything wrong, perhaps to blow away someone who wants to do something wrong to me.

And if it becomes as easy as they want it to be the system wil be abused by those who would never even think it was wrong. What if an ex works for law enforcement and has access to the text message database and just wants to spy on you, etc. I can give a million examples but they all pretty much end up the same, I don't want someone looking over my shoulder.

5th

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Just because it's currently so trendy to mock people with privacy concerns, doesn't make their concerns any less legitimate. Making fun of people doesn't solve anything.

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2013-Apr-5 9:58 am

I wasn't making fun per se, however do you immedely think anything anyone thinks of is true, and not nutty.

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2013-Apr-5 10:32 am

Of course not. But I don't immediately dismiss everything as nutty, just because someone feels strongly about it.

I would, however, have to agree that anyone who feels safer when "authorities" can read the personal communications of private citizens at will should at least brush up on their history of the regimes that had/sought that kind of power in the last century or so, and how well it all turned out for the folks in those countries.

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said by coma9:

Because me telling my wife about what I'm going to do to her tonight, and the amount of lube we're going to need to pick up on the way home, is none of the NSAs business. Or do you think it is?

The suspense is killing me. I want to know what you are going to do to your wife tonight!

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I'm not doing anything wrong in my house but I still lock the door. Its about protecting whats mine. Including my privacy. It your so eager to let the feds know what your doing then go ahead and provide them anything you want.

Plus there's also fair play involved. I'm not paying taxes in record numbers to have sub par half assed national security. I want them to put the work in and be awesome catching the bad guys the right way.

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said by coma9:

Utah's good. The wives and I can do what ever we want.

Fixed it for you.

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said by atuarre:

Just curious, do you have WiFi in your house? Do you run security/Encryption on your router? What about logging into your router. Do you have it password protected?

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2013-Apr-7 7:55 pm

When I said that...I was joking. I too have made the privacy argument and people said the "If you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide." statement.

Everything is password protected. I have so many passwords I forget a lot of them.

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