 intellerSociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
| Logins and postings are broke ass on modern browsers. »www.modern.ie/en-us/report#http%···s.com%2F
look at the problems, and for gawd's sake get rid of the IE8 compatibility mode! IE8 is for dinosaurs! -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" |
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 Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium join:2000-07-13 Key West, FL kudos:1 | Why does anyone even give a crap about any version of self important Internet Exploder????
Its the crappiest most viral prone/attacked piece of crap out there.
Get yourself a real browser like FF or Opera.
If it weren't for the fact it can no longer be separated from Winblows Explorer I would not even have it installed --
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 DC DSLThere's a reason I'm Command.Premium join:2000-07-30 Washington, DC kudos:2 Reviews:
·Covad Communicat..
·Verizon Online DSL
| Oh, grow up. FF has plenty wrong with it...and it's being eclipsed by Chrome, which has its own issues. There is no one browser that satisfies everyone. Accept that and move along. -- "Dance like the photo isn't being tagged; love like you've never been unfriended; and tweet like nobody is following." |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:2 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| reply to inteller I didn't see a laundry list of problems.
IE 8 will unfortunately be supported for a long time by Microsoft unless they force people to upgrade to 9(Vista), and 10 and later for security updates before those operating systems are no longer being supported. Don't expect IE 8 compatibility to be entirely dropped anytime soon since they won't push people off older versions to get their security updates.
The highest IE XP will run is IE 8 since Microsoft didn't want to make IE universal across their operating systems like 3rd party already has. We can at least all be glad that IE 6 will finally die in 2014 when XP no longer receives any support, three years later than planned, and before 2011 I had already planned on moving off of XP before it went EOL. -- I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires- Susan B. Anthony Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G. |
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 DC DSLThere's a reason I'm Command.Premium join:2000-07-30 Washington, DC kudos:2 Reviews:
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·Verizon Online DSL
| said by BlitzenZeus:We can at least all be glad that IE 6 will finally die in 2014 when XP no longer receives any support, three years later than planned, and before 2011 I had already planned on moving off of XP before it went EOL. Unless you have some XP-specific stuff that doesn't work on Win7 (even in the XPVM), at least somehow get your hands on 7. The experience is infinitely better than XP. I'm not sold on 8 because at least 90% of my use is still dependent upon classic Desktop. -- "Dance like the photo isn't being tagged; love like you've never been unfriended; and tweet like nobody is following." |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:2 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| If you're still using legacy applications/applets that depend on a certain version of IE they were poorly designed in the first place. That's how I feel about that, and if they don't handle secure data leave them on a legacy machine, or replace them. It was a horrible idea to write applications, and applets on a certain version of IE. -- I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires- Susan B. Anthony Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G. |
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 DC DSLThere's a reason I'm Command.Premium join:2000-07-30 Washington, DC kudos:2 Reviews:
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·Verizon Online DSL
| There are countless home brew LOB applications deployed (not to mention commercial apps and drivers) that were written for specific OS versions. This stupidity and ignorance is the single largest reason that Windows has to lug around all sorts of excess baggage to keep so much legacy stuff working. IE is a completely different issue. -- "Dance like the photo isn't being tagged; love like you've never been unfriended; and tweet like nobody is following." |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:2 | Yep, and they were given an extra three years to comply. |
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 DC DSLThere's a reason I'm Command.Premium join:2000-07-30 Washington, DC kudos:2 Reviews:
·Covad Communicat..
·Verizon Online DSL
| Unlike Apple, that can and does pull the plug on things it doesn't approve of, Microsoft can't. They tried it 25 years ago when Windows 3.0 and NT were being built. Originally, the wanted to use a model similar to what Apple eventually adopted: Strict compliance with Microsoft's design and guidelines, no undocumented API calls, no calling-down into DOS for anything (on 3.0), and implementing a vetting process for mass-market apps so anything sold in the retail channel had to have a cert logo. They also wanted all hardware (boxen, add-in cards, peripherals) certified and that anything running Windows that didn't have a cert would receive absolutely no support of any kind if problems arose. Developers and hardware manufacturers went atomic; many CEOs went so far as to call, write, or tap Gates on the shoulder on the golf course to tell him the plans for good hygiene programming and devices were absolutely unacceptable.
Windows 95 and WoW on NT broke tons of legacy 16-bit stuff, and were particularly unkind toward low-end hardware. Instead of fixing their shoddy products, developers and hardware propellerheads instead blamed Microsoft for everything. And, instead of accepting Microsoft's efforts to reach out and fix problems (which would cost money no matter how the pie was sliced), more and more animosity was lobbed at Microsoft. So, all the bitching and moaning about how crappy Windows is because Microsoft sucks is really unfounded and unfair. And, even today with the OS and dev tools doing all sorts of things to help devs avoid writing shitty code or device drivers, obstinate devs continue to do whatever they feel like and then blame Windows or Microsoft if customers complain about their product. "Ain't my fault I ain't never taken any computer programming courses and I sit in my basement in my underwear, drinking cheap beer, and just try stuff until it works long enough to ship it and get paid. If it don't work after that, don't bitch to me."
Until the mindset of "we don't have to follow guidelines or rules we don't like" is forced out of the majority of devs' brains, we'll continue to have stupidity like version dependencies that lock the app into a specific version number. Or apps that manage to hog or leak memory because the dev is too lazy or dumb to figure out how to properly release objects or that requesting absurd amounts of memory at startup is not a good thing. Or apps that get ejected by the OS for being naughty. And, idiots who develop web solutions and lock it to a specific version of a browser, or ancillary product like SQL Server. (Yes, it really does happen with Firefox, Safari, and even Opera, just like IE.) -- "Dance like the photo isn't being tagged; love like you've never been unfriended; and tweet like nobody is following." |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:2 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| My least favorite was all the programmers who ignored the user account restrictions on XP for years as they were morons, and made all software require admin right to work as if they were only writing software for 9x until Vista came out. Vista gave these people a good swift kick in the butt, and made it clear as if it wasn't before that user accounts were necessary for basic security which 3rd party was ignoring as a majority. Many software companies were still caught off guard when stuff like anti-malware software wouldn't run correctly with limited user accounts, and only some of them applied themselves to the common sense business model of actually using user accounts. UAC was blamed for so many problems, but it's what needed to happen to make users aware of the problem created by developers, not Microsoft.
I know some business applications were still written badly to require admin rights when it wasn't necessary at all. When a kids game always needed admin rights to be ran normally, and said it supported Win XP they clearly had no idea what they were doing. Some worked ok with power user accounts if they had Pro, but not a guarantee.
Now if they could just stop basic programs from needing tens to hundreds of MB of memory to perform basic tasks, and stop using IE as a runtime.  -- I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires- Susan B. Anthony Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G. |
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