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Rxdoxx
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Heartgard/Vectra3D alternatives?

"Inheriting" a 13lb Bischon Frise.

No way I want to pay vet recommended product prices when the only person allowed to sell them is the vet.
I just feel too much "greedway" and equivalent alternatives are probably available at significant savings.

Heartgard Plus (for dogs up to 25 lbs)
(ivermectin 68mcg and 57mg of pyrantel)

Vectra 3D for dogs & puppies over 7 weeks
Dinotefuran 4.95%
Pyriproxyfen 0.44%
Permethrin 36.08%

Alternatives and sources you have used appreciated. TIA
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Heartworm meds require a prescription. So, you don't get a choice. BUT, you should look for low cost shot clinics around you (like at petco). They will usually test for heartworm and give you a prescription. Or you can find a vet that will price match. I usually do a search in Amazon.com when I'm ready.

It costs for the test. Then probably do something like Intercepter every month for the lowest cost.

If you can't or won't afford this,, then perhaps the dog should go somewhere else. Sad but true.
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reply to Rxdoxx
Generic equivalent of Heartgard: »www.canadavet.com/Generic-Heartg···C96.aspx

No prescription required.



Rxdoxx
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Thanks guys.

Started looking at Canadian sites
worldpetexpress.com seems to have Heartgard Plus without Rx, been trying to research if they are legit (no rx needed)

and checking Frontline Plus as alternative to Vectra 3D
lots to learn....
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La Luna
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reply to HarryH3
I would NEVER order a heartworm medication online without a prescription from an unknown source. Some of these so called "identical" medications are manufactured in China, with zero quality control. You have NO idea what you're getting. You could kill your dog with some of these products if there's something wrong with it.

It's best to stick to known sources, like the vet's office, who only order from the actual manufacturer.

Another place that is ok for online orders is Dr.Fosters and Smith. Their products are legitimate, and they require a prescription for heartworm preventatives. Prices are a little cheaper than a vet office.

Also, keep in mind to NEVER just start heartworm meds on a dog that hasn't been taking them. They need to be heartworrm negative to be on the protocol. If you give them the preventative and they are heartworm positive, you can kill the dog. Same goes if you stop the preventative for the winter (if in a cold climate).....blood test before restarting in the spring.
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reply to Rxdoxx
Heartworm medicine for pigs can be adjusted for dogs however it is not a good experience for the dog since it tastes very bad and hard to get down them. Your best bet is to find a pet store with a vet that can prescribe or get a prescription from your vet to order online. Most vets are willing to give you one.



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Ive never used them, but you might check 1-800-pet-meds I think it is, see them on TV all the time talking about how less expensive they are compared to your vet.
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reply to Rxdoxx
Congrats! You're going to be a daddy

..you just need to keep in mind - if a vet dispenses, it's covered if your pet has complications

If you order from another source - ie; discounted online stores no matter how reputable - they will not stand behind the product.

That being said - I too have ordered thru 800-Pet-Meds at certain times in the past.
But - I checked the lot number of the box stamps to verify it was made by the pharmaceutical company it claimed to be

Of late, I find the $42 from the vet equal or better value than the online pricing
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reply to Rxdoxx
Don't use anything by Hartz. Their products have made many animals sick.
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Hayward
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reply to Rxdoxx
You can get Revolution (flea tick & heart worm) from »petshed.com (Australia) without a scrip. And you get a 6 mo supply (large dog) usually comes with a free supply of Canex intestinal worm meds too.
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Hayward
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said by La Luna:

I would NEVER order a heartworm medication online without a prescription from an unknown source. Some of these so called "identical" medications are manufactured in China, with zero quality control.

I like your paranoia and so do vets I'm sure.
Pet Shed to me is a known source.... they happen to be in Australia where the identical Pfizer Revolution can be sold without scrip.

And actually got rather PO'd at my vet when I found a place a bit cheaper in the US but required a scrip but they wouldn't write one because they don't sell it.

Well be going to free rabies shot clinics too since then (actually low cost all the shots $100 less than vet... but rabies free) That silly decision has got them a loss of routine customer.
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La Luna
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Sorry, it's not paranoia, it's fact.

If you want to play roulette with your dog's life, be my guest.

As far as vax's go....do you know what titers are?



La Luna
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said by nightdesigns:

Don't use anything by Hartz. Their products have made many animals sick.

Absolutely!!!


Hayward
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said by La Luna:

Sorry, it's not paranoia, it's fact.

If you want to play roulette with your dog's life, be my guest.

As far as vax's go....do you know what titers are?

Translation of that last line???

All I can say is he has been on the Pet Shed actual Australian branch Pfizer Revolution since he was a year old now going into his 12th year.... no fleas ticks or heart worm either.

Oh and by the way just looked at the box and made in USA by Pfizer Inc. for Pfizer Australia Pty Ltd.

And early on tried the Hartz stuff while in effective never seemed harmful then again a big all American MUTT not a neurotic pure inbred to be ill or fu fu thing.

You know an actual DOG not a designer just pretty/cute play thing.
And by the way rare time he does go to the vet... they always remark on how he is about the the happiest healthy dog they see... not saying wish he wasn't to see more.

Now would I buy it from a random E-Bay listing especially out of country of course not.

And a lot of this is the same BS as our human health care BS.

I remember when he was a puppy and they said he had to be $100 tested before heart worm meds.... and I asked them well how often has a puppy ever been positive.... uhhh like never.
But of course they said its law... when really just their pocket lining

Yes an adult dog gotten from the pound... big unknown reasonable chance there could be heart worm.... but a protected puppy they know this is just a racket thing they can get away with and then scrip sell but not allow others too to keep your inflated price business.

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reply to La Luna

said by La Luna:

I would NEVER order a heartworm medication online without a prescription from an unknown source. Some of these so called "identical" medications are manufactured in China, with zero quality control. You have NO idea what you're getting. You could kill your dog with some of these products if there's something wrong with it.

I guess my dog has just been lucky over the last several years.

Our vet wouldn't even write a prescription for us to use somewhere else. He insisted that we pay outrageous prices to get the medication from him. He's not our vet any more...

BTW, you can buy Ivermectin for large animals without a prescription: »www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs···ermectin

Something stinks...


La Luna
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What do you consider "outrageous prices"?

If your vet wouldn't write a script, that is wrong, as long as you are going to order from a reliable source. Was that the case? Maybe he/she didn't like where you wanted to order from and didn't want to be liable if something went wrong. Cheap isn't always best when it comes to medications.

Lay people should never play around with powerful drugs like Ivermectin. Farmers/ranchers with many large animals know how to administer it. Again, just because it's cheap/available doesn't mean you should do it.

I agree....your dog HAS been lucky, very lucky.

I don't care what anyone does with regards to this, if you want to take the chance, be my guest. Won't be happening with MY dog.
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Darksable

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reply to Rxdoxx
the cost is crazy i agree. And I'm getting a third dog! I had a vet that recommended using it even in the winter because a mosquito might still be in your house alive!

My vet i use now though recommends using every 6 weeks instead of 4. Saves you money and you are not over medicating. It takes several bites from several mosquitos to infect a dog. The medicine does not give protection forward. It kills prior infections up to the time of ingestion. Thats why its ok to give it 6 weeks instead of 4.


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