 Phoenix22Death From AbovePremium join:2001-12-11 SOG C&C Nrth | reply to fatness
Re: ATF Wants Massive Online Database to Find Out Your Friends! whatz facehook? |
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 Phoenix22Death From AbovePremium join:2001-12-11 SOG C&C Nrth | reply to StuartMW samsung galaxy |
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 Phoenix22Death From AbovePremium join:2001-12-11 SOG C&C Nrth Reviews:
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| reply to fatness you know old friend..........i couldn't have written that any better.......... and with that said ..i'll put a label on it that sounds familiar to us older folk........."the red files" from j. edgar are back with a new name yet to be announced jd |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium join:2001-07-16 Dartmouth, NS kudos:3 | reply to StuartMW +++++++++++1 |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 | reply to fatness quote: Sire, the peasants are revolting!
The King: Yes, aren't they.
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 fatnesssubtleJanitor join:2000-11-17 fishing kudos:14 | reply to StuartMW All my friends on facebook are revoltin'! |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 | reply to fatness And make calls/texts from their Smartphone (all the data from which goes to the gummint). -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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| reply to WolfWoman said by WolfWoman:i'm thinkin a revolt of sorts is like maybe not to far away ww Yes, people will write angry posts from cubicles talking about fighting this to the death. Then they'll go to Applebees for lunch. -- Round round get around. I get around. |
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| reply to fatness said by fatness:People who think privacy is secondary to politics are ruining the country. +1
They opposed that huge expansion under Bush and oppose it under Obama. Yeah. I lost a friend over that. I opposed many of the measures after 9-11 and predicted they'd end up where they are now. That's why one should act on principle and not fear (in this case of another attack).
This database, if an when it gets built and operational, will be used by any damn federal agency that wants to use it. It's not going to be just ATF, it's not about just "guns", it's the entire government and how they monitor citizens.
+1 again. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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| reply to Faster said by Faster:Let me guess, this is about the "firearms" and not the alcohol or tobacco? For people whose interest is politics, not country, that is the issue that alarms them. And when a president is elected from the opposite party they'll suddenly drop the alarm and the database will become something they'll support to "protect children" and to "root out terrorists before they strike" etc.
People who think privacy is secondary to politics are ruining the country.
People who really care about privacy, who opposed the huge growth of government surveillance, data collection, intrusion, unlawful detention, and subversion of due process haven't changed their views since the "war on terror" started. They opposed that huge expansion under Bush and oppose it under Obama. And in the earlier days, 2001-2008, they were outnumbered on this board.
Since 2008 when the presidency changed parties there's been more opposition to increased government measures due to Obama being in charge instead of Bush. My believe is that increased opposition will fade away when another Republican president is elected. And those interested in these issues for only partisan reason will expose themselves as short-sighted political frauds with no real concern for privacy.
This database, if an when it gets built and operational, will be used by any damn federal agency that wants to use it. It's not going to be just ATF, it's not about just "guns", it's the entire government and how they monitor citizens. |
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1 edit | reply to antdude Jury of your peers = warrant less data is useless and becomes null/void.
I have little experience in this I dragged out a case on some misdemeanor charges before on a technicality. Only with the intent of wasting tens of thousands tax payer dollars. Well worth the few years wasted dragging it out.. Only for them to drop it when I turned 18. 
Fine , charges and probation was null/voided the day I turned 18. |
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY kudos:3 | reply to Phoenix22 said by Phoenix22:so.....should i drop the normal "ass....u....me" rule.....and accept the fact that "DOGPILE" is your preferred search motor? Haven't resorted to that yet, but I'll check it out. |
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY kudos:3 | reply to StuartMW said by StuartMW:said by La Luna:...unless they're interested in things like my dog eating a package of Peeps... Well if a law is ever passed making feeding dogs Peeps illegal they'll know where to find you. And that's the point. One can never know how all this information will be used against you sometime in the future. Here's a specific example for you. Suppose you apply for some job but the employer hates dogs. In this day and age they'll find your FB page. You'll never know, if you don't get the job, whether that was a factor or not. I know that's a hypothetical situation, but frankly, if that's the way they felt about dogs (for example), I wouldn't want to work there anyway! So maybe it works in FAVOR some of the time. -- The Alien in the White House
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 Phoenix22Death From AbovePremium join:2001-12-11 SOG C&C Nrth | reply to La Luna so.....should i drop the normal "ass....u....me" rule.....and accept the fact that "DOGPILE" is your preferred search motor? |
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 JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium join:2006-09-05 Kelowna, BC kudos:1 | reply to WolfWoman Bob just saw that. SWAT is on their way now. Please open the door, and lay on the floor, hands on head. |
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| reply to WolfWoman said by WolfWoman:i'm thinkin a revolt of sorts is like maybe not to far away ww thatz my girl.......sooner than a sooner..... jkk? r u payin' close attention here? |
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 | reply to John Galt i'm thinkin a revolt of sorts is like maybe not to far away ww |
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| reply to Snowy said by Snowy:... The potential for abuse will guarantee it's abuse. +1. That should be enshrined as "Snowy's Law." -- The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. A. de Tocqueville |
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| reply to Faster said by Faster:Let me guess, this is about the "firearms" part and not the alcohol or tobacco part? Why stop there? Every alcoholic that uses a reward or other store card for their alcohol purchases will be filed under "Alcoholics" That will be further broken into sections 1. Government Employees - Classified from "Top Echelon/High Value" through "Scrap/Waste" 2. Judges - Classified from Federal - Supreme/Appeals/District States - Supreme/District 3. Lawyers - etc...
The potential for abuse will guarantee it's abuse. |
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 1 edit | reply to antdude Let me guess, this is about the "firearms" and not the alcohol or tobacco? |
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