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La Luna
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Warwick, NY
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reply to Hayward

Re: Heartgard/Vectra3D alternatives?

Sorry, it's not paranoia, it's fact.

If you want to play roulette with your dog's life, be my guest.

As far as vax's go....do you know what titers are?



Hayward
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said by La Luna:

Sorry, it's not paranoia, it's fact.

If you want to play roulette with your dog's life, be my guest.

As far as vax's go....do you know what titers are?

Translation of that last line???

All I can say is he has been on the Pet Shed actual Australian branch Pfizer Revolution since he was a year old now going into his 12th year.... no fleas ticks or heart worm either.

Oh and by the way just looked at the box and made in USA by Pfizer Inc. for Pfizer Australia Pty Ltd.

And early on tried the Hartz stuff while in effective never seemed harmful then again a big all American MUTT not a neurotic pure inbred to be ill or fu fu thing.

You know an actual DOG not a designer just pretty/cute play thing.
And by the way rare time he does go to the vet... they always remark on how he is about the the happiest healthy dog they see... not saying wish he wasn't to see more.

Now would I buy it from a random E-Bay listing especially out of country of course not.

And a lot of this is the same BS as our human health care BS.

I remember when he was a puppy and they said he had to be $100 tested before heart worm meds.... and I asked them well how often has a puppy ever been positive.... uhhh like never.
But of course they said its law... when really just their pocket lining

Yes an adult dog gotten from the pound... big unknown reasonable chance there could be heart worm.... but a protected puppy they know this is just a racket thing they can get away with and then scrip sell but not allow others too to keep your inflated price business.

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chip89

join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH

A lot of times they will test for heartworm at the pond before they put them on the floor.



Hayward
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said by chip89:

A lot of times they will test for heartworm at the pond before they put them on the floor.

Guessing you meant Pound... and my dog came from the mother dog and owner...unless in a really bad environment it is HIGHLY unlikely a 6mo old (The age you can start giving them major meds/vacs) puppy is going to have heart worm.

But they will insist still they be tested. I have known dogs before there were the meds that had heart worm but they were all very adult dogs, and lived in wild/where could roam and get into stuff situations. Not your typical most places these days housed and leash walked dogs.

Again can understand the test mandate for adult dogs just starting meds, but for puppies (not from abandoned/unknown situations) just a needless money maker, not just the tests but on going prescribed periodic retest to renew (they don't work?) meds.

OK found a source in Australia (Its OTC there) that will ship Revolution here without scrip... some scream from web FAKE... well since he's been on it not one flea. tick, or heartworm.... now maybe Aussie Physer produced but real thing.... again just there it OTC as it should be here.

OK throw me in jail....dog is 12 years old now and vet always says among the few healthiest happy strong they ever see... and only once a year.

Well actually the Vet doesn't... really healthy dogs make them financially grumpy ... but the medical assistant/receptionist always does.

And actually if a dog has heart worm... yes the meds can be accelerating, but either way heart worm will be fatal accelerated or not.

At least I have yet to hear of any actual cure for it once infested, just that the preventative meds may accelerate demise in an not since puppy treated/untested infested animal. Outcome is the same though just a question of time... always fatal

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Rojo_P

join:2001-10-03
Lancaster, OH
reply to La Luna

said by La Luna:

If you want to play roulette with your dog's life, be my guest.

I have to agree with this.

I used to play the "cheaper internet" game too. Until I realized that too much can go wrong with pet meds too take a chance on internet sellers who pay malcontents minimum wage to send out stock purchased from who knows where.

In my case what woke me up was a purchased a supply of Frontline Plus directly from Amazon (not an Amazon supported dealer) which resulted in an infestation of fleas for nearly the whole year that I used it. Made me realize that if medicine from a responsible retailer like Amazon, didn't work for flea protection, why would I take a chance on anything that potentially might not protect and/or kill my pet.
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No mountains that I need to move,
Or even claim what's right or true for you.


Hayward
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said by Rojo_P:

said by La Luna:

If you want to play roulette with your dog's life, be my guest.

I have to agree with this.

I used to play the "cheaper internet" game too. Until I realized that too much can go wrong with pet meds too take a chance on internet sellers who pay malcontents minimum wage to send out stock purchased from who knows where.

Well again depends how stupid you want to be.... would I buy of EBAY NEVER.... also depends on how inherently unhealthy a dog you have because they're cute and dumb enough to spend $3000 for it.

Mine a strong as an OX good old NORMALLY large MUTT not mini inbreed neurotic problem from day one dog. He is 12 and greying in the face now but still perfectly able to drag you down the street you let him. Much more limited than used to be where when I got him KW was very open to dogs... but headed for the head... someone says you want me to hold him...I say well you can try to. When I get back... they say (maybe houling them off their chair) wow he really wants to be with you.

Pet Shed is as reputable the major online/mall US sources. Phyzer does have AU facilities there and unlike here Revolution is sold OTC there.
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