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Savious
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reply to Dissembled

Re: Meeting Monday: Pay to Win, Pay to Play, Pay to Look Good

said by Dissembled:

Happy to have helped invoke some good spirited conversation today boys.

Its after 5 east coast, huh. Well, Ill just trudge along here with the rest of us B-Listers...
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Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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Mexico
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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

At least my wife doesnt make a sailor blush!

I like where this is going....
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Savious
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My wife banned me from being in Skype with her from, she said those are words I don't need to hear.
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TigerLord
UEE Citizen
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reply to Krisnatharok
I prefer not to say how much I spent on SC until it is released. If it's a huge flop the real number can never be known.


EUS
Kill cancer
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canada
Should've stayed in med school......
I kid, I kid.

me1212

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Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to Savious
said by Savious:

Perhaps I should have worded that differently. He buys multiple of them at a time. PC gaming is a cheap hobby compared to that.


Savious
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reply to TigerLord
said by TigerLord:

I prefer not to say how much I spent on SC until it is released. If it's a huge flop the real number can never be known.

SC?
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TigerLord
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Star Citizen


Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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reply to Archivis
said by Archivis:

said by Krisnatharok:

Growing up, I never would have considered where I am now to be wealthy. I still have school debt, we don't own a house, have one car, etc.--there are always things in the back of my mind that I would feel better about if I was able to take care of them instantly.

4Bedroom home, one vehicle payment, no other debt, no student loans. I make more than anyone else my age but I don't feel wealthy either.

Just not broke anymore.

Lies!

Your wife gets all the cash. You get a $20 a week stipend.
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Nightfall
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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

Back on topic, let me pose this question to you guys.

Since the majority of people in this forum are established in their personal lives, how much would you be willing to pay for an amazing game.

Better than WoW, LoL, MWO, Diablo 2 etc...

Im talking about the "ultimate gaming experience".

10/10 Graphics
10/10 Gameplay
10/10 Server up time
10/10 Whatever else.

In theory, this game is going to be very popular and have constant content patches, expansions, etc.. for the next 5 years. You only have to buy in for a one time price, whats your maximum?

$50?
$100?
$500?
$1000?

I look at it in terms of time investment. I have invested hundreds of hours playing Battlefield 3 so for the $80 I spent on that game plus the premium pack, its well worth it.

Then I have Dead Space 3 which I finished in about 12 hours in single player at $60. I am replaying it again on the hardest difficulty.

Far Cry 3 I have sunk 23 hours into so far and I bought it for $35 on sale on Steam over Christmas. Then i have Skyrim with over 100 hours so far and I have had that for over a year and a half.

I typically value my time at about $2 an hour. So if I can get a game and really enjoy it for about 20-30 hours I am happy. Heck, if I go out to eat with friends, it costs me $30-$40 and I am only there for 2-4 hours.

So the answer to your question would depend on the time investment. If its something that is like Skyrim, except better, then I would probably pay $80-$100 for it as a one time fee.
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Koil
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$2/hr? Sheeesh....I've got some work around the house you can do for me....I'll even give you a raise.

$2.50/hr.


Thaler
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reply to Savious
Most profitable: Pay to win.
I prefer to play games that pay for cosmetic effects only or just buy the same and play.
And no, I don't think it's dishonest at all. It's a free game. If I despise the system, I'll just play one with a system I prefer.

...and if it's a pay-to-win game that I have to pay for the client, then, no, no, no, HELL NO.


Nightfall
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reply to Koil
said by Koil:

$2/hr? Sheeesh....I've got some work around the house you can do for me....I'll even give you a raise.

$2.50/hr.

I was talking about my entertainment factor. I wouldn't do work for that amount. For you, my going rate is about $100 an hour.
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saillaw
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Dismay
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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

Back on topic, let me pose this question to you guys.

Since the majority of people in this forum are established in their personal lives, how much would you be willing to pay for an amazing game.

Better than WoW, LoL, MWO, Diablo 2 etc...

Im talking about the "ultimate gaming experience".

10/10 Graphics
10/10 Gameplay
10/10 Server up time
10/10 Whatever else.

In theory, this game is going to be very popular and have constant content patches, expansions, etc.. for the next 5 years. You only have to buy in for a one time price, whats your maximum?

$50?
$100?
$500?
$1000?

The game I have spent the most money and time on by far, is WoW. I've been playing since November 2004. Much of that time I had two accounts.

Lets look what I approximately have spent on that for just one account.

Purchased collector's editions:
Vanilla 100
BC 100
Wrath 100
Cata 100
Panda 100

So ~$500 for the game

Monthly fees: 101 months x $15 = 1515

So total = $2015 or $19.95/month

That does not include race changes, server transfers, in game pet and mount purchases, upgraded hardware, my second and third accounts, guild website contributions, etc.

So if your game could really deliver for 5 years, it should be worth at least $20/mo x 60 = 1200. So I guess I would have to say I'd pay $1000 in your scenario.
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Krisnatharok
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That's some pretty brutal honesty right there.


saillaw
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I'm raw like that

I know others who have spent a lot more than that, particularly guys who buy gold and accounts or do serious multi-boxing.

In truth, I probably should have quit wow about half way through wraith. I haven't loved it in a long time. I need to get off my ass and cancel that recurring subscription for this game I'm not playing!
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Krisnatharok
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My regret doesn't go as far. The faction/server changes to Mal'Ganis were worth twice what I paid in terms of enjoyment, but I should have cancelled in Cataclysm. LFR made raiding more accessible but cheapened the whole experience. I don't think I've enjoyed raiding since ICC. Non-LFR Deathwing was fun, but that's about the only high-point since LK. My annual pass is up at the end of the month, and I'm paid through the end of May, so I will be cancelling then. As it is I haven't even logged on since the patch.
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Kristopher
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Koil
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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

My wife banned me from being in Skype with her from, she said those are words I don't need to hear.

Soooo...your wife kicked you out of the room so she can cyb0rsex0r ppl on Skype? Damn, son.


Savious
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reply to Savious
Yes, WoW, $ for $ has been one of the best investments as far as time is concerned for me, right behind Diablo 2.

I honestly wouldn't have any issues paying $1000 for a game that I would play heavily over the course of 5 years, if I could do an installment payment of $200 a year or something.

Will Titan fill that void?
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Savious
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reply to Koil
said by Koil:

said by Savious:

My wife banned me from being in Skype with her from, she said those are words I don't need to hear.

Soooo...your wife kicked you out of the room so she can cyb0rsex0r ppl on Skype? Damn, son.

No! Im not allowed to go into Aftershock Conf anymore because Antonica swears more than my First Sergeant in Iraq.
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ekster
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Antonica swears? Never noticed it.


Koil
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said by ekster:

Antonica swears? Never noticed it.

No shit? Me fuckin either.


Savious
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Theres a big difference between swearing and making the devil cringe.


Blockfire
Sarcasm is my native tongue

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Wichita, KS
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how can your wife hear Antonica?? are you one of those people who use their speakers?


Savious
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said by Blockfire:

how can your wife hear Antonica?? are you one of those people who use their speakers?

Whoa whoa whoa. What do you mean by "those people"?
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ekster
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Those people that no one likes and who annoy everyone due to feedback.


Blockfire
Sarcasm is my native tongue

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said by ekster:

Those people that no one likes and who annoy everyone due to feedback.

exactly


Kristopher
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said by Blockfire:

said by ekster:

Those people that no one likes and who annoy everyone due to feedback.

exactly

HEY!
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Savious
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reply to ekster
said by ekster:

Those people that no one likes and who annoy everyone due to feedback.

Everyone loves listening to my dubstep while I talk.
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"This thread has more subs than the actual game." Phantasee, in reference to SWTOR