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Kearnstd
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Re: $700 Anti-Theft Package Sold By Dealerships Is Useless

up at the high end cars, some of the most professional of thieves actually bring an ECU along for what they intend to steal. basically if they can get the hood open they can even get around the code locked keys.

And then there was the post here on this site to a story from Europe where people have been able to recode BMW transponder keys without the original key being in the car and that lets them simply drive off as if they owned it.

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said by Kearnstd:

And then there was the post here on this site to a story from Europe where people have been able to recode BMW transponder keys without the original key being in the car and that lets them simply drive off as if they owned it.

The keyless fobs are the one easy to steal:

Keyless BMW cars prove to be very easy to steal
»hackaday.com/2012/07/07/ ··· o-steal/

One of the Repo shows had a BMW key coded while in the car without the original key present. It took under an hour to program the new key with a laptop and the locksmith's programming tool.
Kearnstd
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you would think they would have set something so that to encode a new key you would have to enter a PIN on the radio buttons or something. That way even with access to the car itself and the ODB port it would still be impossible to encode a key without authorization.

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said by Kearnstd:

you would think they would have set something so that to encode a new key you would have to enter a PIN on the radio buttons or something. That way even with access to the car itself and the ODB port it would still be impossible to encode a key without authorization.

A friend that's a Volvo tech was telling me about the keyless fob programming process. Apparently you need the existing key to determine some kind of number, program that into the computer, connect the computer to the ECM, and set the new key to register with the vehicle. There is lots of room for minor errors, like changing the HUD language.