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Re: [Serious] The sad face of social media quote:
Social media didn't "enable" anything. Parents who refuse to parent did.
People are only too willing to shed and ignore their responsibilities, and that includes parents. It's no surprise really when you see the social trends.
I totally agree.........what possesses anybody to even think that way?
It should be ingrained in their brains that it's wrong............instead they choose the opposite end of the scale.
Lock them up for years and get these mental midgets off the street..........rapists don't do very well in prisons.
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Two Halifax teens face child pornography charges in the case of Rehtaeh Parsons...
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| I was happy to hear that and I hope it dissuades people from recording such acts in the future. Teens recording other teens and sharing the experience has been an issue since the 90's (webcams). |
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I was pretty sure anon was involved when I saw some of the same people building the shrine for her that camped out in occupy.
Unless I am wrong you walk by the Robert Burns statue often. |
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It's a funny situation. When the poor girl was beaten, assaulted and harassed after the fact, the police (and the community) did very little to bring the criminals to justice.
But now that Anonymous was instrumental at helping uncover at least two of the scumbags, the police are now threatening to arrest and prosecute anyone who becomes involved in vigilante justice!
I hate to say this, but vigilante justice has succeeded where the police have already failed miserably. |
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GOOD!
Now the 1000$ question: had Anonymous not gotten involved and threatened to reveal identifies, would any of this have happened? My understanding is that the investigation was re-opened because someone had a change of mind and came forward with new information and the will to cooperate with the investigation. Either this is a lie and the RCMP's arm was twisted by someone wearing a Guy Fawkes mask (which is both cool and alarming), or someone did change his mind in the face of pressure. Either way, Anonymous' involvement is what made those arrests possible. |
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said by urbanriot:That's the problem here. You're comparing 'society today' to how you were raised. Rape and gossip still existed 'back then' as well... rape and gossip have always existed, as long as humans have existed. The major differences between now and then is not social media, it's that more women come forth with their sexual assaults and we now have access to more information that's local to an area that's not our own, so we hear more about it now than we did then. Facebook didn't encourage these men to rape this girl; booze, an easy target, hormones and bad values did. Without getting into too much of a rant on this, society "devolved" (it sure hasn't "evolved") to HAVING to be socially connected via Facebook and the like or you will be seen as "out of touch", flagged as a concern for possibly hiding something, and not a team player - hence good luck on being seen as being "valuable" to any corporate entity and helping feed the almighty money machine. A person these days is only worth as much as the data one can garner from them and be re-sold to various marketing firms.
Society and family structure has now made it pretty much mandatory that both (if one is "lucky" enough to have both) parents work to supply the family unit with not only food and shelter but all the "toys" that are "needed" and allow the corps to make more $$$ until you're a corpse. If both parents are working to survive chances are they're NOT going to be the same shift or days, so who's watching the kids during down time? While parents can be seen as awesome and super, they're still only human and need time to rest before heading back out to toll again. If they're a single parent it gets twice as hard at a minimum!
So while Facebook didn't directly encourage it - you can't say they didn't help it either as it HELPED spread the wrong, probably was seen as a way to brag about what they did, establish what is now seen as "glorious" street cred and idolizing of what's wrong in the world - as hey "bad news" = more advert $$$ and "papers sold".
All this "innovation" and change hasn't brought us any closer or better off, just has been used to propagate more bad news and keep the people depressed. If we want good innovation, change and being able to truthfully say we have progressed as humans and society we need to focus on housing for all, food for all, and curing all....... |
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vue666Small block Chevys never diePremium
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The mother of Rehtaeh Parsons's is to appear on the popular Dr. Phil TV Show...
»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot···ons.html |
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Windsor, ON | said by HiVolt:Taking it a bit too far, no? Not when it involves lots of green plasticy paper that is the standard societal delineation of value. |
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said by canehdian:Without getting into too much of a rant on this, society "devolved" (it sure hasn't "evolved") to HAVING to be socially connected via Facebook and the like or you will be seen as "out of touch", flagged as a concern for possibly hiding something, and not a team player....
Excellent post....
Yes, there is a lot of pressure to use Facebook, both from peers and from schools/companies.
As another example, many newspapers (at least in the US) have disabled online commenting and letters to the editor, UNLESS you choose to go through Facebook.
Which is wrong.... |
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| said by Gershom 1624:As another example, many newspapers (at least in the US) have disabled online commenting and letters to the editor, UNLESS you choose to go through Facebook.
While I haven't experienced this myself, I think that's a great idea to keep people responsible for what they've written. |
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Windsor, ON | said by urbanriot:said by Gershom 1624:As another example, many newspapers (at least in the US) have disabled online commenting and letters to the editor, UNLESS you choose to go through Facebook.
While I haven't experienced this myself, I think that's a great idea to keep people responsible for what they've written. its also laziness because its easy to pass the responsibility onto someone else to handle your CMS system and authenticating comments. Some places still have accounts you can go through OpenID or another cross site system.
Though you can make fake accounts and say whatever you want, claim you are whatever, and work for a company that doesnt exist still, even with facebook (as they dont demand a full background check yet to prove everything you post is true). So long as no one complains.
I don't have the time of day to bother commenting if they are too lazy to pass it on to somewhere my dirty laundry is for sale on. Then again most media comment sites are just online trolls anyways and its best to avoid news site commentary.
Their goal is to enrage people and make money off of it.
(Ill eventually starve to death for not having a Facebook but I have a death wish already so it doesnt bother me) |
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said by urbanriot:said by Gershom 1624:As another example, many newspapers (at least in the US) have disabled online commenting and letters to the editor, UNLESS you choose to go through Facebook.
While I haven't experienced this myself, I think that's a great idea to keep people responsible for what they've written. I think that it is NOT good to hand over the keys to the public square, to a private company such as Facebook which has a horrible record on privacy issues and manipulating their users into prostituting themselves. |
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Thirty years ago there was no GUI, Tweets, FaceBook or cellphones with cameras. The national and local news on television and radio, plus local and regional newspapers, the party phone line and the backyard fence, were the primary news sources of who, what, why, where, and when in smaller communities.
The Internet is lawless like the Wild West of the 1800s. It is very difficult to catch and charge law breakers when there is no law.
The Internet was meant to give free world wide access to the world's largest encyclopedia and to a communication platform. Then there was a social decorum that was followed. If you didn't someone would quickly tell you.
It wasn't too bad until the thieves began to steal copyrighted work with impunity and kids thought it was okay. It wasn't hard for a smart kid in grade school to get the directions to hack the school computers. The guys that once hacked servers and software as a harmless joke turned the PC world upside down with viruses and trojans.
The only things I ever saw removed quickly and permanently were the instructions on how to build a bomb, and George W. Bush's military record.
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vue666Small block Chevys never diePremium
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Rehtaeh Parsons's dad was on the local talk radio this morning. He believes the actual episode will not air on Dr Phil until next week.... |
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said by Gershom 1624:said by urbanriot:said by Gershom 1624:As another example, many newspapers (at least in the US) have disabled online commenting and letters to the editor, UNLESS you choose to go through Facebook.
While I haven't experienced this myself, I think that's a great idea to keep people responsible for what they've written. I think that it is NOT good to hand over the keys to the public square, to a private company such as Facebook which has a horrible record on privacy issues and manipulating their users into prostituting themselves. I'm not entirely sure how you tied the two things together. Commenting through Facebook on a newspaper's site doesn't involve handing over 'keys to the public square' unless you're suggesting that a compromised Facebook account would be posting comments to a news article? That sounds... strange. |
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Windsor, ON | said by urbanriot:I'm not entirely sure how you tied the two things together. Commenting through Facebook on a newspaper's site doesn't involve handing over 'keys to the public square' unless you're suggesting that a compromised Facebook account would be posting comments to a news article? That sounds... strange.
Facebook using comments to bombard you with compromising advertising that could cost you your livelihood and rendering you destitute. This includes loss of professional licenses thanks to overseas threats you cannot defend against.
Individuals hacking your secured ID impersonating you then causing you liability and prosecution (you cant defend against as its a "Trusted platform). Ala identity theft you cannot protect against as the Facebook Login online is as "trusted" as your SIN number. Without it your permanently unemployable just as you are without a SIN.
I.e.
People posting as you (an employer) claiming you deliberately violated a provincial standards order as a local company, and that the province was full of hot air for nitpicking building standards.
When in fact it was a spanish-controlled conglomerate importing them from overseas at a rented grey-field compound on a local river.
Via a facebook profile claiming you are a senior employee at said local company.
People without other forms of verification can say whatever they want and believed with no verification at all. Because the onous is on facebook to verify it (when they don't care what's posted as long as it makes money) |
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»ca.news.yahoo.com/rehtaeh-parson···233.html
why would this man be threatened, is it because it has reached dr. phil's show?
anonymous might just step in again and find who wrote this one...
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Windsor, ON | only way to protect yourself from the net is to create a fake persona and never reveal any RL contact info whatsoever.
the minute you do its time to change your name legally sell everything you own and move to a hut in the north.
even then a persistent person looking to ruin your life online can find your change of name petition and ruin you more. |
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vue666Small block Chevys never diePremium
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Re: [Serious] The sad face of social media Rehtaeh Parsons' father, Glen Canning, says he has received an online death threat and police are investigating.
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Ottawa, ON | Thanks for sharing. If I hadn't read your post, I wouldn't have know. Well, at least not if I hadn't already read two posts up from you where that information was already shared. |
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Re: Rehtaeh Parsons' father says he received death threat And strip Exif data from any photo's! Especially the gps data that could be tracked.
I know its getting into tinfoil hat teritory.
Looks like our schizoprenically paranoid governments are turning us all into a nation of paranoiacs too Yikes.
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Re: [Serious] The sad face of social media said by vue666:Rehtaeh Parsons' father, Glen Canning, says he has received an online death threat and police are investigating. I really hope they take the time to track him down. Since youtube involves an account to post, unless the account itself was created on an open network and used only on that open network, they can track whoever the poster was. |
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said by urbanriot:I'm not entirely sure how you tied the two things together. Commenting through Facebook on a newspaper's site doesn't involve handing over 'keys to the public square' unless you're suggesting that a compromised Facebook account would be posting comments to a news article? That sounds... strange. The problem is that Mark Zuckerberg is a sleazy sociopath. The movie "The Social Network" is not fiction, it is based on court records. And do you realize that Makr Zuckerberg considers Facebookers to be "DUMB F****"? Warning a NSFW link to the New Yorker follows »www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010···Page=all See the chat logs between "ZUCK:" and "FRIEND:".
I find it hypocritical that some companies who wouldn't hire someone caught giving away confidential client info are refusing to hire people who don't have Facebook accounts. |
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Windsor, ON | said by Walter Dnes:said by urbanriot:I'm not entirely sure how you tied the two things together. Commenting through Facebook on a newspaper's site doesn't involve handing over 'keys to the public square' unless you're suggesting that a compromised Facebook account would be posting comments to a news article? That sounds... strange. The problem is that Mark Zuckerberg is a sleazy sociopath. The movie "The Social Network" is not fiction, it is based on court records. And do you realize that Makr Zuckerberg considers Facebookers to be "DUMB F****"? Warning a NSFW link to the New Yorker follows » www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010···Page=all See the chat logs between "ZUCK:" and "FRIEND:". I find it hypocritical that some companies who wouldn't hire someone caught giving away confidential client info are refusing to hire people who don't have Facebook accounts. Cheap way of background checking without the cost and potential liability that comes with an employment decision.
And you damn well know 90% of decisions are made on grounds of discrimination regardless of laws anyways. |
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It was reported on local radio Rehtaeh Parsons's Mom was on Dr Phil today? Anyone see the show? I did not.... |
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Re: [Serious] The sad face of social media A online dating website was shutdown for using a photo of Rehtaeh Parsons on Facebook to promote their dating service... 
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