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Immer
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Re: PnE

They have. In fact, a couple of nights ago dark said in vent, "hey... uhm... what's this? Pacified? how am I passified?"

me: /o ... nice work, lol

When your threat bar in Omen3 goes grey, you are under a temporary threat dump... it doesn't last. When the tank has a grey bar at the end of his threat bar... it's temporary threat boost (TotT, MD)... it won't last.

We are not asking too much of a mage to keep tabs on his threat in the first few seconds of a fight.
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said by Immer:

They have. In fact, a couple of nights ago dark said in vent, "hey... uhm... what's this? Pacified? how am I passified?"

that was in a scenario and no one would reply as to what it was, so I ended up stopping for a moment to read the tool tip.

And ya that was the only time I'd seen that.
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JB
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(just an outsider here)

All dps needs to do is wait 3 seconds for the tank to get initial threat, if the tank is losing it after that then there's a problem with the tank and not the dps.


Immer
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oh yeah, hehe... that was pretty funny. I see your bar go grey from time to time.

Its a running joke... because it continues to happen.
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said by JB:

(just an outsider here)

All dps needs to do is wait 3 seconds for the tank to get initial threat, if the tank is losing it after that then there's a problem with the tank and not the dps.

See and its atleast 4GCD's before I hit a pyro, so atleast 4sec before I cast any real high damage stuff
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said by Immer:

oh yeah, hehe... that was pretty funny. I see your bar go grey from time to time.

Its a running joke... because it continues to happen.

Well I hadn't seen the wings pop up or that debuff before.
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BTW now that you say that I've had it go grey in a solo scenario where NPC's aren't doing anything

so um sometimes its just bugging.

even in brawler's guild I've seen it go grey.
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Immer
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that's right... Omen3 must be bugging.

Individual scenarios, brawler's guild, and the farm are odd instances with respect to how addons should treat them. Skada and recount don't always handle those instances all that well, either.


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said by Immer:

that's right... Omen3 must be bugging.

Individual scenarios, brawler's guild, and the farm are odd instances with respect to how addons should treat them. Skada and recount don't always handle those instances all that well, either.

I've also seen it grey for a full LFR fight, even when a mob is on me.
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Immer
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so... you want me to just stop asking you to use Omen3, accept that you will go splat if I can't keep you up long enough for the tank to re-taunt once his CD is up?

maybe we should stop doing the pull countdown for a while...
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Naw just saying

you ask for 4 sec till a hard nuke hits and you have 4 sec till a hard nuke hits.


Immer
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well... I guess I've just been looking at everything the wrong way, then.
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JB
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The tank isn't taunting on the pull, right? ;|


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Nope no taunt to start. However a tank (melee) has to be in enough range to use his major attacks before a range unleashes fury.

Even after the pull if you are on the threat meter at 108% then you are going to pull off during a tank swap or crit goes thru. Also, when you maintain 130% threat for the first 20% of the boss there is going to be issues. Even though you are not blowing your high damage spells, you are casting smaller ones before tanks are in range and been able to use one or two GCD. The smaller ones are also building threat granted slightly lower.

One other things is some of the off tanks we run with our 30-40 ilevels behind and therefore build threat slightly slower than burst dps at the beginning .

Omen is working correctly. It turns grey if the fixates on someone else, or if you use Ice block or any other threat dumping spells.
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Nope doesn't turn grey on ice block I can tell you that.

Ice block does not dump threat it just makes you invulnerable to most things (the maze is not one of those things)

Invisibility is a threat dump, it wipes all threat after 2 sec.
How many times have I had to say this, if I ice block its still dependent on someone to taunt or pull the mob, otherwise the boss will insta kill me when it wears off (I've had bosses clawing at the block just waiting for it)
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said by DarkLogix:

How many times have I had to say this...

interesting choice of words there...
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JB
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here's how it should go....

tank counts down, 3, 2, 1
tank pulls boss into position, should have a decent amount of threat
(3 seconds after 1 was said) begin normal dps rotation

some bosses can much harder right away if not positioned properly, best bet is to wait the time to ensure maximum positioning
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And not I'm ilvl 528 equiped so the tank might have more work now.


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Oh and just about halfway though the FL cinders quest now

Hopefully enough guildies will be on tonight to finish it off rag
(it was mostly pugs and spent a bit to much time on ryolith (the person steering was new to it.))

Normally bubbles steers, but even though he said he'd be there he wasn't

BTW 10 people isn't enough to get scorp form on stanghelm, and then had a few drop so had to drop to 10man for that boss.

Likely have to do rag on 10heroic, as I doubt I'll get enough interest to get 10 peeps for 25 reg. (and no way would we get enough to do 25 heroic)


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said by DarkLogix:

Normally bubbles steers, but even though he said he'd be there he wasn't

Don't be too hard on Bubbles. It *was* the 4th of July after all. Likely friends or family showed up or he was just too exhausted after a long day. Or something like that.

Real life > WoW


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said by Goldheart:

said by DarkLogix:

Normally bubbles steers, but even though he said he'd be there he wasn't

Don't be too hard on Bubbles. It *was* the 4th of July after all. Likely friends or family showed up or he was just too exhausted after a long day. Or something like that.

Real life > WoW

Ya I know, just would have been nice if I'd heard something
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Immer
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said by DarkLogix:

Normally bubbles steers, but even though he said he'd be there he wasn't

Way to keep it classy. Here is how that line should have read:

Normally bubbles steers, but unfortunately he wasn't available last night.

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DarkLogix
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Just glad the pugs didn't drop like flys after the 5th or 6th wipe on ryolith

frankly I shouldn't have let the 85 come or anyone not in vent

though one pug ninja'd embers from the person that we picked to get embers on the run


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Do you know if they ever fixed that via the ticket she put in?

Also note that Monalee was getting upset she couldn't keep the DK alive and then I pointed out he was only 85 and just wearing quest/dungeon gear.

I had fun on the run though. I have only gone that far one other time in FL and still have yet to kill Rag
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DarkLogix
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Haven't heard, I asked her last night and she hadn't logged into that toon yet

I want to try Rag 25 tonight, but um for rag I think we'll need more people (like how staghelm needed more to go scorp form)

without more on rag the fire ele's might get to the hammer
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If bubbles is on next Wednesday then we'll likely do FL10-H, its easier to get interest for heroic, but I'm not about to lead a heroic


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I'm coming. Seckspanther approaches cautiously in the distance.


DarkLogix
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I have you on realID right?


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said by mettachain:

I'm coming. Seckspanther approaches cautiously in the distance.

I was online and Secks is now in the guild.


Immer
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welcome, metta. I'll be back home on sunday night. See ya online soon.
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