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Mele20
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[WIN8] Windows Explorer Display full path to files?

How do I get Windows Explorer to always, automatically display the full path to files?

Also, how can I get Explorer tree to ALWAYS open to Computer? ...not libraries that I ignore as I moved all content from those folders to my Data drive.
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said by Mele20:

How do I get Windows Explorer to always, automatically display the full path to files?

Also, how can I get Explorer tree to ALWAYS open to Computer? ...not libraries that I ignore as I moved all content from those folders to my Data drive.

»www.eightforums.com/tutorials/79···8-a.html
»www.thehelper.net/threads/window···.158712/

As s side note there is so much info on Windows 8 at this site it's crazy! »www.eightforums.com/tutorials/67···dex.html
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said by Mele20:

How do I get Windows Explorer to always, automatically display the full path to files?

I believe the option you want is what I am showing in Picture #1 above. Just check the box "Display the full path in the title bar". The result is what I am showing in Picture #2. When I click things on the right side of the window, it will always display the full path in the title bar. In fact, if you click on the title bar, it will make it look like Picture #3, and you can also copy it as well, like this

C:\Users\Brian A. Plencner\AppData\Local\Temp
 

said by Mele20:

Also, how can I get Explorer tree to ALWAYS open to Computer? ...not libraries that I ignore as I moved all content from those folders to my Data drive.

I'm not quite sure what you are asking about. When I open Windows Explorer by pressing the Windows Key + E, I get what is shown in picture #4. As far as I know, I did not have to modify anything or change any setting for it to do that. It just works that way. From there, I can click on any of my drives on the right side, or drill down in the directory tree on the left.

What does not happen, and you can kind of see this in the 2nd picture I posted, is that the directory tree will not follow my clicks in the right window. As you can see, I drilled down into my local temp directory, yet the tree did not open on the left side. Is that what you are talking about?

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said by Dustyn:

said by Mele20:

How do I get Windows Explorer to always, automatically display the full path to files?

Also, how can I get Explorer tree to ALWAYS open to Computer? ...not libraries that I ignore as I moved all content from those folders to my Data drive.

»www.eightforums.com/tutorials/79···8-a.html
»www.thehelper.net/threads/window···.158712/

As s side note there is so much info on Windows 8 at this site it's crazy! »www.eightforums.com/tutorials/67···dex.html

You still have to click on right end of the path to get to display the full path and I already had that checked in folder options. I want the real path with slashes (not confusing arrows and truncated names) and wanted it to AUTOMATICALLY EVERY TIME DISPLAY this way. I should not have to click every time at the end of the address to get the correct display.

For instance, I just saved a Print Screen file and Gadwin Print Screen is set up to ask me the file save location because there are bunch of individual folders in the directory. So, it asks where to save and does NOT show me the path clearly because it truncates and uses those stupid arrows to confuse you further. It truncates SO BADLY that I cannot even tell what DRIVE the folder is on.

That tweak to always open MyComputer is what I did for XP Pro and it worked great (I had forgotten what I did...but seeing that reminded me). However, it does NOT work for Win 8! In fact, it makes everything WORSE!

It opens now to C:\Users\Melelina\Documents! NOT "Computer". (It is not called "MyComputer" in Win 8). I want it to open to "Computer" as shown in the Second screen shot.

(Plus, I wish there was some way to get Explorer to REMEMBER previous settings as far as size of font and size of icons. See how different the second and third screenshots are? That's because Explorer can't remember anything. Explorer is a million times better in XP (I remember the Win 7 public beta that Explorer was bad there too compared to XP and it was bad on Vista too).

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Yes, indeed. Explorer is million times better in XP, than in any successor Windows OS. It's compact, shows lot of data in its small status bar (at the bottom of the screen) and is very functional.

To open new explorer window in XP when I press Win+W (I'm engaging AutoHotKey'to do that), pointing to, let say, drive D: I use this command line option: Explorer.exe /e,d:\ Try it and see if it works for you in W8. If you want to open any other drive there, replace d: with whatever you need.

Now I don't know how to make WE to display full path with '\' as folder separators permanent. But I'd like to find out that too.

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I'm not sure on Win8, but generally if you go via C: or D: etc, just copying the address as test will give you the full path, however for libraries it doesn't, which is why I gather you want to set it up so it does no matter where the file is you are looking.



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Your method if that is correct for Win 8 goes 1 step further, Win 7 was only there for the Classic shell to view the full path.


Mele20
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said by plencnerb:

I'm not quite sure what you are asking about. When I open Windows Explorer by pressing the Windows Key + E, I get what is shown in picture #4. As far as I know, I did not have to modify anything or change any setting for it to do that. It just works that way. From there, I can click on any of my drives on the right side, or drill down in the directory tree on the left.

What does not happen, and you can kind of see this in the 2nd picture I posted, is that the directory tree will not follow my clicks in the right window. As you can see, I drilled down into my local temp directory, yet the tree did not open on the left side. Is that what you are talking about?

--Brian

Hmm....this is interesting and ODD. If I open Windows Explorer (actually File Explorer - renamed for Win 8) using your keyboard method, it DOES open to Computer! I always use the mouse partly because I am a mouse person and never learned hardly any keyboard commands and now because this new flatkey multimedia keyboard LACKS the Windows key on the right side. That is the one I am used to using whenever I did use key combinations instead of the mouse on the XP computer. I have no idea why the right side Windows key is being left off most keyboards now but I see a lot of workarounds on the internet for when the right Windows key is missing. So, it is not just this Dell multimedia keyboard that has it missing.

Anyhow, I use File Explorer icon that has been pinned to the taskbar. There must be something wrong with that shortcut and that is why it doesn't bring up Computer but was bringing up My Documents in Libraries and then when I changed the path to Computer it now brings up Melelina...not Computer.

What if I put a shortcut to File Explorer on Quick Launch? I have it there on XP. I wonder if that would get me to Computer like your keyboard method does? Nah...it is the Quick Launch shortcut just pinned to the taskbar instead of in Quick Launch itself.

Is there some other shortcut that would work correctly like your keyboard method does? A different path in the Target box?
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said by Mele20:

Is there some other shortcut that would work correctly like your keyboard method does? A different path in the Target box?

I went looking, and I did find one. The shortcut is called "Computer", and on a default install of Windows, the shortcut is present at the following path

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\System Tools

The icon looks like Picture #1

Of course, since everything in that main path (C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\) appears in the "All Apps" Screen of Metro, it also shows up there for me (as I'm not running any classic shell or other Windows 8 start menu replacement) as shown in Picture #2.

I would think that if you pinned that shortcut somewhere else (desktop, task bar, etc) then that would work. I know if I click on that shortcut, it opens "Computer" the same way for me as doing Windows Key + E.

said by OZO:

Now I don't know how to make WE to display full path with '\' as folder separators permanent. But I'd like to find out that too.

I've wondered that to. As you can see in my screen pictures, the top bar does indicate the full path using the slashes. But, I do see where Mele20 See Profile is coming from, when it uses the truncated path names when you go to save a file. I've had that happen on a few programs that I use, and it makes it hard to know exactly where the file is being saved.

I also just found out that the option I mentioned above "Show full Address in the title bar" effects the top of the Window. By default (I believe) that option is off. One of the many steps I do is to check that box. In its default state, all it shows at the top is the current directory name. See my example in Picture #3, where I have now turned that option off. The path name is still there where you can type (I believe that is the address bar, green box), but the Window Title (red box) just has the current directory name, instead of the full path. And the path name in the Address Bar at first is using the non slashed names, and to get them, you have to click in the address bar, and then it turns into the correct name with the slashes. Then, if you have the option checked like I do, that will match what is shown in the Window Title Bar.

So, yes, what I would like to see as well is the Address bar show the full path with the slashes, like the Window Title bar does without having to click on the Address bar. I don't know of a way to do that yet.

I don't remember if Windows 7 was that way or not. I know my Mom is still running Windows 7, so I would have to check it out on her system to verify that and see. I kind of remember Windows 7 not being that way, but I could be wrong.

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said by plencnerb:

said by Mele20:

Is there some other shortcut that would work correctly like your keyboard method does? A different path in the Target box?

I went looking, and I did find one. The shortcut is called "Computer", and on a default install of Windows, the shortcut is present at the following path

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\System Tools

The icon looks like Picture #1

Of course, since everything in that main path (C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\) appears in the "All Apps" Screen of Metro, it also shows up there for me (as I'm not running any classic shell or other Windows 8 start menu replacement) as shown in Picture #2.

I would think that if you pinned that shortcut somewhere else (desktop, task bar, etc) then that would work. I know if I click on that shortcut, it opens "Computer" the same way for me as doing Windows Key + E.

But, I do see where Mele20 See Profile is coming from, when it uses the truncated path names when you go to save a file. I've had that happen on a few programs that I use, and it makes it hard to know exactly where the file is being saved.

I also just found out that the option I mentioned above "Show full Address in the title bar" effects the top of the Window. By default (I believe) that option is off. One of the many steps I do is to check that box. In its default state, all it shows at the top is the current directory name. See my example in Picture #3, where I have now turned that option off. The path name is still there where you can type (I believe that is the address bar, green box), but the Window Title (red box) just has the current directory name, instead of the full path. And the path name in the Address Bar at first is using the non slashed names, and to get them, you have to click in the address bar, and then it turns into the correct name with the slashes. Then, if you have the option checked like I do, that will match what is shown in the Window Title Bar.

--Brian

This is strange. When I use Explorer, and go to
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs, there is NO System Tools folder! I wonder why?

With Start8, you have "Windows 8 Menu" as an entry on the Start Menu. If I click on that, I am taken to Metro screen and if I type "Computer" there then I can click on the icon and it takes me like your keyboard shortcut to Computer on Explorer window, But I don't want to use Metro screen and I'd rather a shortcut I can click on while on the desktop instead of using your keyboard shortcut.

Yes, some programs default to saving in Downloads on the C drive. I save all downloaded programs to a Downloaded Programs folder on the D drive. It's hard to tell with those programs (that want to default save to what Windows prefers) where they are saving and hard to tell also with Gadwin Print Screen files.

I didn't realize that "show full address in title bar" affects the top not the address bar. That is interesting. But I always look at the address bar and want it to show the full path with the slashes.

I just saw a strange popup box that I have never seen before when I hover the mouse over the ? in the upper right corner of Explorer window. Do you see it? It looks crude....like something maybe from Windows 95 (but then some say Win 8 looks like Windows 95 so I guess it is intentional).
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said by Mele20:

This is strange. When I use Explorer, and go to
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs, there is NO System Tools folder! I wonder why?

Well, this is interesting. Let me try to explain with pictures!

If you look at picture #1, it is showing what my explorer window looks like at the following directory ---> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

As you can see, the last folder in the list is called "Windows System".

Now, here is where it gets strange!

If you look at the 2nd picture, it shows the contents of "Windows System".

Now, if you look at the red arrow, it is pointing to the Windows Title Bar. It says "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\System Tools"

HOWEVER!

If you look at address bar, it says "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Windows System"

So, the question then, which one is correct?

To help answer that question, I opened a command prompt, and went to "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs", and did a directory listing. The results are shown in Picture #3

If you look at the last directory, it clearly says "System Tools".

So, why does it show up as "Windows System" in Explorer??

said by Mele20:

I didn't realize that "show full address in title bar" affects the top not the address bar. That is interesting. But I always look at the address bar and want it to show the full path with the slashes.

Yes, that is what I am trying to figure out as well. I would like the title bar, as well as the address bar, to show the same thing. Which brings to light the question I noted above!

said by Mele20:

I just saw a strange popup box that I have never seen before when I hover the mouse over the ? in the upper right corner of Explorer window. Do you see it? It looks crude....like something maybe from Windows 95 (but then some say Win 8 looks like Windows 95 so I guess it is intentional).

I've noticed that before. I have seen the ? mark in the top right corner, but I've never clicked on it, or moused over it. Its interesting, as once you mouse over it, you cannot click on anything of that pop-up. You have to click on the ? mark to get a help window. Strange indeed.

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jupitermoon

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said by Mele20:

How do I get Windows Explorer to always, automatically display the full path to files?

There appear to be a couple of options to disable breadcrumbs in Windows Explorer and have the address bar always show the path:

One is to install Classic Shell. The Classic Explorer component is supposed to be able to disable breadcrumbs in the address bar.

Another one is to download BreadCrumbKiller from the link in Twig's Tech Tips blog:

»twigstechtips.blogspot.com/2010/···rer.html

I haven't tested either of these options, so would appreciate any feedback if someone does.

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Sigh. This gets even stranger. No wonder I couldn't find System Tools. Did Microsoft issue more than one version of Win 8 Pro? I noticed Character Map in your list of System Tools and that made me think that I had no idea where to find it (except to type it in on the Metro screen because typing it on the Start8 searchbar does not find it). So, I used Agent Ransack to find it on my computer. My System Tools is not located where yours is located. Mine is located at: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\System Tools.

I noticed you have a bunch of "tools" listed. I have ONE only (plus Desktop). But I see why. A bunch of them are listed in Accessories not in System Tools folder which is under Accessories.

But I also have your system tools under Windows System and same weird discrepancies between what is in the Windows Title Bar and the actual address bar (which changes the address if you click on it). In this SECOND set of System Tools I have different things listed from what is in the set is under Accessories.

I tried to see what a command prompt would show me and got told that "ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start" is not recognized as an internal command....etc.

I'm wondering if Start8 changed some stuff.

What the heck is the Math Input Panel? I tried to use it and tried to bring up Help for it but Microsoft says it can't find the Help file for it.

This really sucks. If I want all the Windows accessories easily accessible from Desktop (not Metro) it looks like I will have PIN each one either to Start8 Startup list or to the Taskbar because I when I type Windows Accessories into the Start8 search bar ....it only finds four or five of them. There is a whole bunch of them! Some like Snipit I had completely forgotten about and others like Windows Journal (why do I have that...it's just for tablets right?) I didn't know existed until just now. Sigh. I just wish I could have XP back!

Maybe I do want to downgrade to Win 7 Pro. It is very disconcerting to see all these oddities in Explorer on Win 8.

Can you access the System Data folder? I cannot even though I am an Administrator and I have UAC disabled in the registry.

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Well, I should point out that I have made a LOT of changes to the folder structures in order to get how things look for me at C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs.

On install of the OS, I do the following step (Yes, I actually have a document that I wrote that lists the 75 steps that I perform every time I install Windows 8. I have a similar list for Windows 7 too.

quote:
33) Clean up the "All Apps" part of metro
Create a folder on the desktop called "Default Start Menu Items"

Browse to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Move all the folders and shortcuts to the "Default Start Menu Items" folder except those listed below
Administrative Tools folder
Startup Folder
Desktop shortcut

Browse to C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Move all the folders and shortcuts to the "Default Start Menu Items" folder except those listed below
Administrative Tools
Startup

Cleanup the items in the "Default Start Menu Items" folder so that there is only a root level of folders (no sub-folders or empty folders).
The logic here is that once we are done, and we move these back, the folders will become the headings in the "All Apps" area of Metro.


What I mean by "Cleanup the items in the "Default Start Menu Items" folder is that I go into the folders, and I move some of the items around and put them in place that makes more sense to me. The other thing I do is take the set that is in my local start menu (the one located at C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs) and combine it with what is in the "public" side of things, and then delete what is left in the local version. This way, there is no "local" start menu directory, and every account has the same version.

So that could be why things are in different places.

However, all of the icons you see in the following three folders
• Windows Accessories
• Windows Easy of Access
• Windows System

did come from shortcuts that were created by default on my Windows 8 system after a clean install.

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I like Start8 more than Classic Shell and bought Start8 so I read twigs tech tip on breadcrumbs. Where did that name "breadcrumbs" come from?

I was all eager to try his program and I agreed completely with his rant which was well written and had neat pics. I never had the problem on my Vista Ultimate virtual machine because I ran it in Windows Classic mode and figured out how to import Microsoft Plus! so I could use W98SE and XP themes on it.

Alas, his download links don't work. I tried with Opera also in case Fx was just being balky.
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said by Mele20:

. . . Where did that name "breadcrumbs" come from?

. . .

I think it's because it's an easy way to traverse back up the directory tree. Click any of the folder names in the address bar and it takes you directly to that folder.

I have to admit that I found it irritating at first. But as I figured out how to use it, I discovered it to be quite handy.
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said by Mele20:

Where did that name "breadcrumbs" come from?

The Brothers Grimm, Hansel and Gretel.

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Alas, his download links don't work. I tried with Opera also in case Fx was just being balky.

The links work fine for me in both Firefox 17.0.5 ESR and Firefox 20.0.1. I click on the file name and up pops the download dialog.

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Well, there are 8 trackers there that Ghostery blocks on Opera. I have a direct connection to the Internet on Opera so it is not Proxo on Fx that is causing the problem.

Did you accept the cookies at Blogger.com? I rejected them as a routine matter on both browsers. Maybe that is the problem.

I'll try IE 10 where Ghostery doesn't work yet (because it is Windows 8) and I'll bypass Proxo but I am not allowing cookies.

It must be a Privacy issue. Ghostery does not work on IE 10 if IE 10 is on Windows 8. I bypassed Proxo but I did block cookies (6). I got the download. But either his links are set to work only on IE or you have to allow tracking to get them to work. I doubt the problem is any tweaking I have done on Fx and Opera as I also tweak IE but to a lesser degree because I don't like IE and seldom use it.

Anyhow, I will install it and report how it works.
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said by javaMan:

said by Mele20:

. . . Where did that name "breadcrumbs" come from?

. . .

I think it's because it's an easy way to traverse back up the directory tree. Click any of the folder names in the address bar and it takes you directly to that folder.

I have to admit that I found it irritating at first. But as I figured out how to use it, I discovered it to be quite handy.

Thanks for the explanation. But what about the Up Arrow? What is so difficult about using the up arrow to go up in Explorer?
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So far it works GREAT!



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said by Mele20:

said by javaMan:

said by Mele20:

. . . Where did that name "breadcrumbs" come from?

. . .

I think it's because it's an easy way to traverse back up the directory tree. Click any of the folder names in the address bar and it takes you directly to that folder.

I have to admit that I found it irritating at first. But as I figured out how to use it, I discovered it to be quite handy.

Thanks for the explanation. But what about the Up Arrow? What is so difficult about using the up arrow to go up in Explorer?

That works too, it's just a different way to do things. That's the nice thing about Windows; it allows people a variety of ways to do things depending on their preferences.
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Good discussion in this thread. This is why I love this site so much!

However, I still don't see yet a reason why one view show the folder name to be "Windows System" while another view shows it to be "System Tools"?

I can see it doing that if it was treated like a library, but I don't believe that to be the case.

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May be one of them is a junction to another. Have you checked it?
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Well, there are 8 trackers there that Ghostery blocks on Opera.

I didn't pause any of the blocking that Ghostery does: 8 trackers on Firefox 20.0.1 and 7 trackers on Firefox 17.0.5 ESR. No need to. I am also running NoScript on Firefox 17.0.5 ESR (not on Firefox 20.0.1 though) and I didn't allow any scripts, not even for the main site blogspot.com or for the download site koonkii.com. I just opened the web page, clicked on the download link, and voilà.

Did you accept the cookies at Blogger.com? I rejected them as a routine matter on both browsers. Maybe that is the problem.

No cookies accepted. In the Page Info dialog for the site, it says: Is this web site storing information (cookies) on my computer? No. In any case, I checked and there are no cookies from blogger.com.

But either his links are set to work only on IE or you have to allow tracking to get them to work.

No. As I said above, I did not allow anything in Ghostery or in NoScript. The links work fine in Firefox.

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Currently, I cannot download that file even on IE 10. Nor will Sea Monkey download it. NO browser will download it.

It's as a much a mystery as was that of Fx not loading my tabs (but giving DNS errors) yet other browsers could load the same tabs. Then after several weeks of the problem, Fx was suddenly ok again and has been ok since.

Weird stuff.

Explorer reverts to breadcrumbs when I go to upload a file or save one so this solution is not that useful.
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said by OZO:

May be one of them is a junction to another. Have you checked it?

I'm not sure how to check that.

However, I feel my question is starting to derail this thread, so I started a new thread for my issue on this. That thread is here

»[WIN8] "System Tools" Folder shows up as "Windows

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said by plencnerb:

However, I still don't see yet a reason why one view show the folder name to be "Windows System" while another view shows it to be "System Tools"?

are we talking about Explorer? I've lost the thread.

Explorer is not a file viewer. And in particular, it does not necessarily tell you the name of files.

For example, the file system directory often displayed as 'My Videos' is really called 'videos'. This isn't because it's a library, it's because Explorer can do that sort of thing and does it.

Amongst other things, it's used for folder-name localization.

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So File Explorer in Windows 8 is just an "explorer" not a "viewer"? What's the difference?


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said by Mele20:

So File Explorer in Windows 8 is just an "explorer" not a "viewer"? What's the difference?

It's a matter of what it shows you, so the question is around the 'file' part, not the 'viewer' part.

People get fooled into the viewpoint that each thing that shows up in Windows Explorer is a thing that exists in the file system. This is reasonably accurate most of the time, but it's never been 100%, and it tends to get less true as fancier features are added.

An easy example is that it looks like you have one thing called "Recycle Bin" than contains files you have deleted, and they're still named like they were when you deleted them. In fact, there's a related directory on every single disk, it's called $Recycle.Bin on Windows 7 but its name has changed a lot. $Recycle.Bin contains a bunch of subdirectories named for user ids, and each such subdir contains files with cryptic names - these are the 'deleted' files. It all looks nothing like the Explorer view.

That example says there's some sort of correlation between the file system view and the Explorer view, but that doesn't have to always be true. Explorer can, if it chooses, show things that are entirely virtual.

In the context of the current discussion, even if Explorer is displaying a fairly simple file or folder, it can give it a different name from what it's known by in the file system. I think this was originally added for per-user localization of directory names (like 'Program Files').

The 'dir' command in the command prompt won't lie to you.