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Mele20
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Re: [WIN7] Wheres the mail?

said by NormanS:

You are describing an IMAP account; or possibly some special way of configuring OL in conjunction with an Exchange server? Multiple POP3 accounts, even in OEXP, feed into a global Inbox.

I prefer IMAP, personally, but Mele20 See Profile is fundamentally opposed to keeping her email "in the cloud".

Multiple POP3 accounts do not feed into a global Inbox UNLESS you don't how how to set up Identities to avoid that. Most people do it the way you have described but that is because they don't realize (or maybe don't care) that it doesn't have to be that way. Thunderbird is exactly the same as OE as far as setting up Identities. You can do it like you describe but you can do it differently also.

When you set up either correctly, if you have 6 POP accounts 4 with your ISP, dslr mail, and another one like Safe-Mail, Hotmail (used to but not now I don't think) you set up EACH ACCOUNT completely separate from the others. So, you use the Mail setup Wizard, or do it manually, SIX TIMES. You then have Multiple Identities each completely separate from the others. Most folks don't know to do this so they set up one POP3 account that defaults as the Master account and and then the OTHER Identities they set up are children of the Master account....yes each child has a different address but all mail for all accounts comes into the Master account Inbox and then can be directed to the separate accounts using mail rules. All outgoing messages default to be sent by the Master account but if you remember to open the drop down list before sending the mail you can choose a different account to send from.

Setting up completely discrete separate Identities is much better. The first account set up OE and Thunderbird call it Main Account (something like that) but it is not like the Main/Master Account when set in the first way. The Inbox for each Identity has ONLY its own mail and sent mail goes into that Identities Sent box not into a global box based off the Main Identity. Each Identity has its OWN EMAIL ADDRESS AND ITS OWN PASSWORD. Even set up this way one can switch among the Identities quickly especially if using OETool which is a fantastic small, free program from a Microsoft MVP who specializes in OE.

When you start OE each time, and you have set it up for your passwords to be automatically remembered by OE, OE will open to the last Identity you used before closing OE and new mail will have been automatically fetched. If that is not the Identity you want, you just click on Oe's Multiple Identities icon or on the OETool Identities icon and you get a drop down list of all Identities. You click on the one you want and, since you told OE to remember all the passwords, you are taken to it immediately, seamlessly, and all new mail is there.

Setting up Multiple Identities as I like to do (I've done the other way also but it is quite inferior I think to the second way) Microsoft says (I suppose Mozilla too since Thunderbird is the same) was intended so that multiple users on the same computer could have their own discrete email. But I like using it set up this way when I am the only user as it is a MUCH cleaner setup. The first way is sort of what Opera does today and it drives me nuts.

As for the dslrmail problem in Thunderbird setup that is because I used my permanent alias for dslrmail and that doesn't work but I don't know why. It works on OE.

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said by Mele20:

Multiple POP3 accounts do not feed into a global Inbox UNLESS you don't how how to set up Identities to avoid that.

The global Inbox is the default behavior for most stand alone email clients.

Setting up completely discrete separate Identities is much better.

I found it to be ... clunky.

Setting up Multiple Identities as I like to do (I've done the other way also but it is quite inferior I think to the second way) Microsoft says (I suppose Mozilla too since Thunderbird is the same) was intended so that multiple users on the same computer could have their own discrete email.

That was for multiple users on a single user OS. But Windows XP is a multiple user OS.

The first way is sort of what Opera does today and it drives me nuts.

I can't vouch for how Opera configures POP3 accounts. As a fan of Dr. Jerry Pournelle's "One user, many computers" philosophy, I prefer IMAP so I can get my email on all computers.

As for the dslrmail problem in Thunderbird setup that is because I used my permanent alias for dslrmail and that doesn't work but I don't know why. It works on OE.

Using a Yahoo! Profile ID works for me in Thunderbird; and it isn't even a valid RFC 822 email address!