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Killersaurus

join:2012-09-17
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: I am with the broadcasters on this one

I'd also like to see pictures of Aereo's setup. There've been reports that each unit has a "dime-sized" antenna, but that just doesn't jive with what I know about OTA reception. That just sounds like a bunch of bull. I have a ClearStream4 in the attic with direct line of site to the broadcast antennas at 11 miles with my house being on the top of a hill and there are still some channels that are troublesome. They mean to say that in NYC, with all of the multipath issues, that an array of "dime-sized" antennas, which could create interference among themselves, pull in all the channels reliably? Again, bull.


MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1
I'm sure they are not a 11 miles away, they are probably really close, less than a mile, and at that distance it's easy to pick up with almost anything.
Just because they don't have something like this for retail use doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

ricklerre

join:2009-06-22
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Killersaurus
said by Killersaurus:

I'd also like to see pictures of Aereo's setup. There've been reports that each unit has a "dime-sized" antenna, but that just doesn't jive with what I know about OTA reception. That just sounds like a bunch of bull.

Here you go:
»www.zatznotfunny.com/wordpress/w···rray.jpg
»www.twincities.com/portlet/artic···=4869549

Hanko

join:2001-12-28
Eatonville, WA
reply to Killersaurus
said by Killersaurus:

I'd also like to see pictures of Aereo's setup. There've been reports that each unit has a "dime-sized" antenna, but that just doesn't jive with what I know about OTA reception. That just sounds like a bunch of bull.

Look here and scroll down.

»www.digitaltrends.com/home-theat···for-now/

kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
reply to Killersaurus
OTA signals get collected by multiple large rooftop outdoor antennas, which essentially reflects onto those 'dime sized' antennas.

Killersaurus

join:2012-09-17
This setup still conflicts with everything I know about OTA reception. Large rooftop antennas reflecting onto the dime sized ones? Does not compute.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to Killersaurus
When I lived in N. NJ (12 miles from NYC) you could pick up all locals with some tin foil attached to the TV.

Add to that a lot of stations broadcast from the Empire State Building (used to be WTC) or across the river from towers in the Meadowlands and you sure can get good reception from a dime sized antenna.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to Killersaurus
said by Killersaurus:

This setup still conflicts with everything I know about OTA reception. Large rooftop antennas reflecting onto the dime sized ones? Does not compute.

No different than satallite reception. The LNB is quite a small device and catches the reflected signal from the dish.

kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
reply to Killersaurus
Reflected is probably the wrong word, redirected would be more apt.... The outdoor antennas that actually get the OTA signal are cabled and run inside the building where the signal gets amplified and fed to directional repeaters mounted on the ceiling, and beamed to the antenna array.

RCampbell

join:2013-04-17
Sparta, NJ
reply to itguy05
I live in northwest NJ and here we can't pick up squat!


Pacomartin

join:2013-03-18
Bethlehem, PA
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reply to Killersaurus
said by Killersaurus:

This setup still conflicts with everything I know about OTA reception. Large rooftop antennas reflecting onto the dime sized ones? Does not compute.

I don't think that is correct. The antenna design is much like a phased array on a military system. From looking at patents, I don't think the technological hurdle is the simply receiving the signal for broadcast, it is assigning individual antennas to individual users to comply with the legal interpretation of what is permitted under current legislation.

Prior to about two years ago when Barry Diller began investing in the company it was called Bamboom Labs. You can google old articles about their efforts to make the technology legal. They are not the first company to try and do this, but the other ones were shot down by the courts. Bamboom did careful research into the legal rulings on their predecessors before designing their system.

Aereo's patent
»appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars···20127363

said by RARPSL:

If you go back in history to the origin of cable TV, it was an Antenna that was placed somewhere (such as on a hill) and used to feed TVs that could not receive the signal directly (since it is in a valley with the hill blocking the signal)

Yes and it was called Community Access TeleVision (CATV) and not Cable TV. But you are making a philosophical discussion. Back in the 1950's CATV simply increased TV sales and ratings for advertisers. CATV was initially invented by people who wanted to sell TV's, and many potential customers weren't interested because they had no signal. CATV was economically beneficial to networks before it became competition.

Aereo might argue that the TV household with lousy OTA reception might play video games or watch Netflix instead of network TV. It is a solid argument that they are only helping the networks.

However in the advertising saturated world, a few extra viewers is not the economic advantage of being able to resell a signal. The real fear is that the cable operators will license a technology developed by Aereo and the networks will lose a substantial revenue source.