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siljaline
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reply to StuartMW

Re: MS Security Intel Report - 24% PCs Unprotected

said by StuartMW:

Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing.

Disagreeing as it is a little ambiguous.

However: »blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive···are.aspx
»twitter.com/msftmmpc/status/3245···33920257


StuartMW
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What I didn't know, until reading the report, was that (see above quotes) Microsoft uses MSRT as a data collection tool. The data in their report comes from it's "phoning home" each month.

It's a neat trick to offer, automatically, MRT each patch Tues and then collect data from it's use.

Now that's probably the best way to get real data (MS claims, in the report, that 600 million users run MRT every month) but IMO it still neglects many other relevant factors. The assumption is that use of an A/V product prevents malware infection. Of course it can but so do other mechanisms (firewalls, behavior etc).

I therefore find the "24%" and "5.5" figures indicators at best.
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EGeezer
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I feel that A/V has its place, but not as the be-all, end-all solution.

In its defense, there have been many legitimate sites hacked with malware exploits, and client and server application vulnerabilities are a popular attack vector.

Very often, these vulnerabilities remain unpatched even after exploits have been in the wild for some time. In these cases as well as with systems with careless or nontechnical users and systems with high value data, anti-malware applications provide a useful layer of security.

In the end, though, I feel Bruce Schneier said it best;

"Security is a process, not a product"
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jaykaykay
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I agree that AV has it's place, and it certainly is not one and only product if one is really choosing to do anything. An AV is like underwear, but you wouldn't wear just your undies. Yes, indeed. It's that layering that can make the difference.



StuartMW
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reply to EGeezer

said by EGeezer:

I feel that A/V has its place, but not as the be-all, end-all solution.

Exactly.

The MS report is pretty good as far as it goes. On the other hand (and see the report) they're in the business of selling anti-malware solutions. That's not to say that their report is biased but their statistics must be taken in that context.

Also, as I've already said, they're basing the figures on incomplete data. They cannot measure other factors.

As you said an A/V is just another layer.
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StuartMW
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reply to jaykaykay

said by jaykaykay:

...you wouldn't wear just your undies.

Yes well that too is contextual. There are places where only undies are worn
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reply to jaykaykay

said by jaykaykay:

An AV is like underwear, but you wouldn't wear just your undies. Yes, indeed. It's that layering that can make the difference.

I guess going commando is risky? ...


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said by Dustyn:

said by jaykaykay:

An AV is like underwear, but you wouldn't wear just your undies. Yes, indeed. It's that layering that can make the difference.

I guess going commando is risky? ...

Total freeballin'?

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=469KLGY6WCQ

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