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Pinan

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Re: T-Mobile + GrooVe IP + Google Voice + HSPA = Fail

said by tired_runner:

1. The phone will "ring" both numbers at the same time, given that two separate callers call the VoIP and the carrier-assigned number at the same time. This is obviously not normal, and probably unintended behavior.

2. GV will forward incoming calls to the GV number to the carrier number, not ring both at the same time.

1. I was not speaking of two different callers, only one.

2. If ONE person calls my GV number, both the native phone app and SP (or Groove) do indeed ring at the same time. I can then choose to answer either one. Absolutely.

josephf
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How does the native phone app and GrooVe/SP coexist on the screen simultaneously? They won't be fighting for screen space one app on top of the other? And how do you choose which app you wish to pick up the call with?
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said by Pinan:


2. If ONE person calls my GV number, both the native phone app and SP (or Groove) do indeed ring at the same time. I can then choose to answer either one. Absolutely.

Just checked GV again. Yes, you're correct. I never used it that way though.
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said by josephf:

How does the native phone app and GrooVe/SP coexist on the screen simultaneously? They won't be fighting for screen space one app on top of the other? And how do you choose which app you wish to pick up the call with?

Just did it with my phone.

The app that receives the second incoming call pops up on the screen last, so that app technically "won".

Maybe he has a different setup that allows to choose which one to answer.

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said by tired_runner:

Just did it with my phone.

The app that receives the second incoming call pops up on the screen last, so that app technically "won".

Maybe he has a different setup that allows to choose which one to answer.

How did you test it? You forwarded GV to both GrooVe and to your T-Mobile number? Or you called both (different) numbers simultaneously? If both via GV, which app got the call first? And doesn't the native Android dialer take over the screen, and replace any other app, when it gets an incoming call?

Pinan

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Both apps will pop-up. Typically SP is on top for a ring or two, so I simply answer it. If the native app pops up over SP, I simply dismiss that app (hang it up) and SP is still ringing.

As I remember, Groove did not handle this situation as well. It would ring once or twice then stop, forcing me to answer the native app, or rushing to the home screen and trying to open Groove before the call stopped. Did not work as well. SP never fails me.
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Side note: As I mentioned above, I only want to receive (and make) calls only GV number. Therefore I assign a different ringtone to each app so I can tell which number the call is originating from. This cut down on my answering spam calls, or a bill collector looking for the deadbeat who last had my cell number.

So it's kinda funny when the phone rings, as I get two different ring tones at once. LOL.

josephf
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You should be able to see that a call was made to your native phone number (and not GV) by the fact that your VoIP app doesn't ring. So why the need for a different ring tone?

Pinan

join:2000-09-02
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At times the VoIP apps have failed to ring. No wifi, or poor 4G, etc. I typically have SP set to receive calls only via wifi anyway so....this ensures that I don't miss a call. Gives me a choice. After all, nothing is a sure thing.

josephf
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How do you manage with only 100 minutes a month for all your non-wifi mobile calling?

(And if you have such extensive WiFi access that you rarely need cellular service, why do you even need a wireless data plan rather than simply having no wireless plan and using your Android device for both your VoIP phone and web/app data usage exclusively via WiFi, thus costing you $0/month instead of $30?)
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said by josephf:


How did you test it? You forwarded GV to both GrooVe and to your T-Mobile number? Or you called both (different) numbers simultaneously? If both via GV, which app got the call first? And doesn't the native Android dialer take over the screen, and replace any other app, when it gets an incoming call?

I had GV forward the call to GrooVe and T-Mobile. Both rung; one number after the other. The second number that rung was the app that kept showing up on the screen; or GrooVe.

Native Android dialer didn't take over at all.

I am running Cyanogenmod 10 on my HTC. Not sure if this explains that or not.

josephf
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So it first rang your Android native dialer then a few seconds later rang GrooVe? And once GrooVe rang you could no longer answer it with the native dialer, if you wanted to?

Pinan

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My, you have a lot of questions *chuckle*.

I'm not a cell phone junkie for starters, so 100 min is way more than enough. The few calls I receive are from people important to me, so I would not wish to miss them. I only make calls when I'm around wifi.

I use 3/4G to view my several web cams, check mail, etc.

All in all well worth the $30 monthly.

All of my home/business phones are VoIP as well. Some free, others very inexpensive. I'm a voipaholic.
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said by josephf:

So it first rang your Android native dialer then a few seconds later rang GrooVe? And once GrooVe rang you could no longer answer it with the native dialer, if you wanted to?

I could've answered the native dialer if I wanted to, but only after I ignored or accepted the GrooVe call. Though I'm fairly certain if I answered the GrooVe dialer, the native one would have barfed if I also tried to answer it. I don't think the phone could share the telephony hardware between two apps when it's theoretically designed for one.

josephf
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Does a bluetooth headset work exactly the same, with full functionality, with GrooVe and Spare Phone, as it does with the native Android dialer?
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Couldn't tell you. I'm not using a Bluetooth headset with mine.