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Bridge0

join:2013-04-20

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Windsor Ontario - No Data Cap ISP Options

Hey All

Looking to get a complete list of ISP's in the Windsor area that offer packages with no data cap. I'm currently with Distributel however, I'm looking for more speed.

Here are the options I'm aware of (again, unlimited usage only) - please let me know if there are any I'm forgetting or if anything is incorrect.

Distributel

12/2 mbps - $47.95 - $29 installation

Free modem in Windsor* (YMMV - I was given this to offset the speed differential. This is actually their 18mbps package price but Windsor only gets 12mbps = free modem rental).

Acanac

12/2 mbps - $45.95 - $49.95 installation

This is actually their 18mbps package but like Distributel, only 12/2 is available.

Start.ca

6/1.5 mbps - $39.95 - $50.00 installation*

They also have several faster options (20/30/60 down) however, they all have caps. *$0 Installation on 'qualified' Cable Internet Transfers In

VMedia

20/1 mbps - $54.95 - $64.99 installation

This package isn't on their website however they are set up to resell Cogeco in all of Ontario (all per the rep I spoke to).

Teksavvy

6/0.8 mbps - $39.99 - $44.95 installation (DSL)
6/1.5 mbps - $43.95 - $44.95 installation
10/1.5 mbps - $57.95 - $44.95 installation
20/2 mbps - $79.95 - $44.95 installation
30/2 mbps - $99.95 - $44.95 installation
60/2 mbps - $191.95 - $44.95 installation

Props to Teksavvy for having lots of unlimited options but those prices

There are several ISP's offering the 6/0.8 mbps Unlimited DSL package however, I believe they are all the same / more expensive than Teksavvy so I haven't listed them (Primus, Odynet, MNSi etc).


andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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Because the CRTC demands it all be based on usage of the bandwith they have based pricing on that.Any place you go will eventually work out the same to the others in most circumstances


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
reply to Bridge0
Start Basic DSL... 6M/800K/Unlimited... $39.95/month, $0 Installation

Start also offers $0 Installation on 'qualified' Cable Internet Transfers In!

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by jasmo34:

Start Basic DSL... 6M/800K/Unlimited... $39.95/month, $0 Installation

Start also offers $0 Installation on 'qualified' Cable Internet Transfers In!

He's on Distributel 12 Meg but looking for more speed. 6 Meg DSL is half the speed of what he has now.
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Bridge0

join:2013-04-20
said by HeadSpinning:

said by jasmo34:

Start Basic DSL... 6M/800K/Unlimited... $39.95/month, $0 Installation

Start also offers $0 Installation on 'qualified' Cable Internet Transfers In!

He's on Distributel 12 Meg but looking for more speed. 6 Meg DSL is half the speed of what he has now.

True, but also making a summary of unlimited internet options in the area. I've updated my original post on Start.ca.

Still looking like VMedia is the best option although 1) not sure it makes sense to switch for an additional 8mbps and 2) hurts when compared to their Rogers area package of 45/4 for $2 less per month... Thanks Cogeco! [/sarcasm]


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
reply to HeadSpinning
I could have sworn the OP's first line was something like "Looking to get a complete list of ISP's in the Windsor area that offer packages with no data cap."

And he included other 6M plans in his own list! I guess his entries are wrong too!

Sheesh!

Bridge0

join:2013-04-20
reply to andyb
said by andyb:

Because the CRTC demands it all be based on usage of the bandwith they have based pricing on that.Any place you go will eventually work out the same to the others in most circumstances

I'm not sure I totally follow your post but if you are saying CRTC requires all ISP's to use UBB and therefore, they are all going to be the same, I disagree. Consider the following:

Distributel - 12/2.0 - $47.95 - Unlimited
Teksavvy - 10/1.5 - $57.95 - Unlimited
Cogeco - 10/1.5 - $48.95 - 80 GB (LOL)

So, not really the same at all... Unless I'm totally misunderstanding your post

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
reply to jasmo34
Well, if that's the case, then there's our 7/1 Internet & Home Phone Bundle ($59.95).
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Bridge0

join:2013-04-20
said by HeadSpinning:

Well, if that's the case, then there's our 7/1 Internet & Home Phone Bundle ($59.95).

There are several ISP's offering the 6/0.8 mbps Unlimited DSL package however, I believe they are all the same / more expensive than Teksavvy so I haven't listed them (Primus, Odynet etc).

I don't want to get into bundled options but the 6/0.8mbps unlimited option alone is $44.95. I'll add it to the original post though for completeness.


hm

@videotron.ca
reply to Bridge0
Doesn't MNSi internet have their own CO's or something like that over in Windsor? They should have unlimited.

Looking at their webpage they seem to have stagnated. Don't see anything over 6-meg.

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
reply to Bridge0
said by Bridge0:

I don't want to get into bundled options but the 6/0.8mbps unlimited option alone is $44.95. I'll add it to the original post though for completeness.

We only offer the 7/1 option with the home phone bundle because it is provided through our own equipment in the Bell CO. If the bundle isn't available, that means we only service that area through Bell 6/0.8, and our focus is on providing service through our own network, rather than Bell wholesale.

We'll have faster speeds in the next little while, but that won't be through DSL.
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MNSi Internet - »www.mnsi.net


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
reply to Bridge0
In case you didn't know... you can only edit your original message for so long (3 days?). So, you cannot keep a thread alive, gathering more info, and also keep updating the first post with the updated information.

That rule has proven to be an inconvenience in MANY threads.

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
reply to hm
said by hm :

Doesn't MNSi internet have their own CO's or something like that over in Windsor? They should have unlimited.

Looking at their webpage they seem to have stagnated. Don't see anything over 6-meg.

We have equipment co-located in the Windsor, LaSalle & Tecumseh COs. Because there is very little FTTN deployed in Windsor, there's no point advertising speeds above 6 Meg, as that's all that's available on DSL to most people.

We'll be offering speeds above 6 Meg, but likely not on DSL.
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MNSi Internet - »www.mnsi.net

Bridge0

join:2013-04-20
reply to HeadSpinning
said by HeadSpinning:

We'll have faster speeds in the next little while, but that won't be through DSL.

Awesome. Keep us updated!

Bridge0

join:2013-04-20
reply to jasmo34
said by jasmo34:

In case you didn't know... you can only edit your original message for so long (3 days?).

Damn, I didn't know that. That sucks! Thanks for the heads up though.


andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1
reply to Bridge0
the word eventually seems to be in my post.And yes they are all CBB and that means more $ so they have to cut a bit of fat here and there to not go broke.All depends on how they view the long term

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by andyb:

the word eventually seems to be in my post.And yes they are all CBB and that means more $ so they have to cut a bit of fat here and there to not go broke.All depends on how they view the long term

They are not all CBB.
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andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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All are CBB unless they sign a contract with an incumbent

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by andyb:

All are CBB unless they sign a contract with an incumbent

Again, not everyone is CBB. For customers on our own network (thousands), we are not subject to CBB.
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andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1
While I like your company and all then you are not covered by the CRTC demands because a couple thousand is no much on incumbent size.If you were you would be subject to those rulesYour also not a Major if at all transporter of data across Ontario unlike bell or rogers

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by andyb:

While I like your company and all then you are not covered by the CRTC demands because a couple thousand is no much on incumbent size.If you were you would be subject to those rulesYour also not a Major if at all transporter of data across Ontario unlike bell or rogers

We're not an incumbent. We operate as a CLEC in Bell and Bell Aliant territory. We are free to charge our customers whatever we want, and don't have to pay CBB to the incumbent, as the data traffic for those customers all flows on our own network.

The CRTC doesn't DEMAND Bell charges CBB. Bell ASKED the CRTC to be able to charge UBB. On appeal Bell was DENIED. They then ASKED to charge CBB, and proposed rates. Their rate proposals were appealed and REDUCED.

The CRTC simply regulated the amount Bell was PERMITTED to charge - they didn't DEMAND that they charge it.

You need to understand what happened. The CRTC is not forcing Bell or any of the other incumbents to charge CBB - they're simply permitting them to.
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andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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Maybe your not reading right.I said you were not an incumbent.As for the CBB remarks well...if the CRTC throws ya some bones to get more money will you take it?

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by andyb:

Maybe your not reading right.I said you were not an incumbent.As for the CBB remarks well...if the CRTC throws ya some bones to get more money will you take it?

Maybe "your" not writing right.

The CRTC didn't throw Bell a bone. Bell asked for it, and they approved. There's a significant semantic difference between the two.

Regardless of our size, the CRTC will not tell us to charge CBB - it just doesn't work that way for a competitor. The only reason the CRTC has jurisdiction over the incumbent networks is exactly because they're the incumbent. They force the incumbent to share their network with competitors, and regulate the rates that happens at (presumably, Phase II cost + an allowed markup).

If we cook up a wholesale arrangement with a smaller ISP, we are free to structure that deal on whatever business terms we both agree to. It could be a CBB model, or a UBB model, etc. The CRTC doesn't care - we're not the incumbent. The smaller ISP has the option of going to the incumbent directly, so the CRTC doesn't need to regulate our rates.
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andyb
Premium
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SW Ontario
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.I also didnt say they threw a bone to bell I asked you if you would take it.They gave bell etc cart blanche to rip people off. Anyway Conversation over when grammar is brought in

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
The point is, you said everyone was subject to CBB when in fact that is not true, which I pointed out.

You then seemed to imply the reason we weren't subject to CBB is because we were too small, so we were somehow flying under the CRTC's radar.

The CRTC doesn't need to "throw us a bone" as we could charge CBB if we wanted to without approval from the CRTC, so your question isn't really valid. Obviously since we don't charge CBB to our wholesale customers, the answer is NO.

When communicating in a written forum, grammar is important. Quite convenient to invoke the "conversation over" position when the position you're taking is questioned.
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havok2191

join:2013-04-12
reply to Bridge0

Re: Windsor Ontario - No Data Cap ISP Options

well...that escalated quickly
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