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winchester73

join:2003-08-08
Chapel Hill, NC
reply to antdude

Re: Microsoft posts KB2840149 to replace KB2823324

Vista Home Premium SP2
Installed KB2823324 before it was pulled, didn't have any untoward effects from it, didn't bother to uninstall it. Just received KB2840149 from WU and installed, system didn't request to reboot but I did it manually anyway. So far, so good.



siljaline
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No BSOD's yet (•)



StuartMW
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What happens if you reboot? Does CHKDSK run every time?

How about scheduled disk defragmentations? Do they run as scheduled?

»Microsoft KB2823324 causing issues
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LetterD

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Did anyone with Kaspersky Antivirus install the new patch and if yes did it cause any troubles with KAV?



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Thanks. Not being a KAV user I forgot to ask that question too.

The point is that KB2823324 caused other issues not just BSOD's. Does KB2840149 result in any of these too?
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Dustyn
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reply to StuartMW

Kept KB2923324 and updated to KB2840149 without issue.
»Re: MS says to uninstall KB2823324



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reply to StuartMW

Removed KB2923324 last week. Was offered KB2840149 yesterday. No problems with either.

Win7 32bit.
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I run CHKDSK once a week and don't see any instances of it running on Boot.

»windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind···r-errors

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StuartMW
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Pre-patch ntfs.sts details

KB2840149 ntfs.sys details
Some technical details for Win7 SP1 x64 (took me 1 minute to do this).

Now if someone could do this for the KB2823324 version of ntfs.sys...
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POSSIBLY: KB2823324

KB2840149
said by StuartMW:

Some technical details for Win7 SP1 x64 (took me 1 minute to do this).

Now if someone could do this for the KB2823324 version of ntfs.sys...

The above was taken from a restore point. But I don't believe it to be accurate as the date seems out of sorts. However, it is different than the two examples you provided StuartMW See Profile. So it's still up to dabate as to the correct file version for KB2823324. This above screenshot is prior to installing KB2840149.
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StuartMW
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Thanks Dustyn See Profile

Actually the file timestamp looks valid based on some web searches I've done on KB2823324.

What that tells me/us is that Microsoft made changes to the ntfs.sys file in KB2840149. From that I surmise that it wasn't just an install issue in KB2823324 but an actual code problem.
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Dustyn
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Although Microsoft STRONGLY advises and recommends uninstalling KB2823324, I could not find a reason to do so on my particular set up. Microsoft also published that you can install KB2840149 ontop of KB2823324. However, Windows Update history will continue to list KB2823324 as being installed along with KB2840149. The other issue is if you were to perform a system restore which could/would restore the troublesome KB. Not an issue for my system either way.
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StuartMW
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said by Dustyn:

Not an issue for my system either way.

Yet
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Dustyn
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said by StuartMW:

Yet

True. I'll report back if I do!


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Got a backup PC?

. o O (I know he can't post from his phone)



Whoop

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I installed kb2840149 last night and it boogered up my system (Win7 x64). It was stuck on the screen (Updating - do not turn off computer). I had to turn it off - it was stuck for about 15 minutes. after a few reboots (safe mode and normal) it finally reported "update failed". I had to use system restore afterwards. It was playing the Windows startup sound a minute or two AFTER startup.



gugarci
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reply to StuartMW

Just uninstalled KB2823324 and installed KB2840149 on my laptop. No issue yet. If it continues to work I'll do my desktop tomorrow.


10088467

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very useful ! I will try ~


Libra
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reply to StuartMW

Thank you for all of this information. I think I will wait and watch this thread for a day or so before installing it.

Sincerely, Libra



siljaline
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reply to LetterD

I've asked around if any KAV users are in the clear now.



Rama

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This afternoon my windows server 2008R2 has rebooted without any permission.. when I check the system log, it say that KB2840149 installed automatically on 4/24/2013 03:00:10 AM. Then theres a warning on 4/24/2013 03:00:11 AM the log says :" The system servicing identified that package KB2840149 security update is not applicable for this system".

What a mess....



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Good news. My scheduled disk defragmenter ran last night and I haven't seen CHKDSK run during reboots so it looks like Microsoft fixed the issues with KB2823324 in KB2840149.
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norwegian
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KIS 2013 installed and runs fine.
CHKDSK ran fine.
Touch wood.

So far all seems to be settled here too.
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Faster
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Boy, this thread has me totally confused as to what's the right thing to do.

My history: Installed K282823324 when it came out. Then people bitched about it so uninstalled it.

Now most recent auto updates installed KB2840149.

Double checked system to insure there is no KB282823324 and its not there.

Checked system and confirmed KB2840149 is installed.

(I have Windows 7 64)

Windows acting "normally."

So, am I done and fine with this issue?

(Damn, speaking just for me as an individual from within my private world and not projecting or pronouncing values on anyone else or their preference or judgment, I do love OS X so much more than Windows.)



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said by Faster:

So, am I done and fine with this issue

Yes.
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Rama

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Happen again,, system rebooted at 4:19:23 AM on 4/26/2013...

Any suggest?



norwegian
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See this link, it suggests it is for your system

»support.microsoft.com/kb/2840149

Also the KB article for looking at fixing the BSOD suggests using the command line for uninstalling the update, I'm not a server user so unsure if the method is the same; see this link (Most help topics do not mention server2008 at all):

»support.microsoft.com/kb/2839011#OOGY4

Maybe just uninstalling the update and going to a restore point.
Otherwise, my best suggestion is create a support ticket with Microsoft themselves to sort it out.
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gugarci
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reply to StuartMW

I finally uninstalled KB2823324 and installed KB2840149 on my last 2 PC's and all is working well. But I had no issues with KB2823324.



siljaline
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I didn't have issues with KB2823324 either - only got a ream of BSOD's post removal. Good to go with KB2840149 in lieu.



Dustyn
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said by StuartMW:

Got a backup PC?

. o O (I know he can't post from his phone)

Yes. Windows XP SP3 machine. Plus this Windows 7 has offline Windows 7 image backups along with an array of daily Macrium images.
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