dslreports logo
site
 
    All Forums Hot Topics Gallery
spc

spacer




how-to block ads


Search Topic:
uniqs
5474
share rss forum feed


dennismurphy
Put me on hold? I'll put YOU on hold
Premium
join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to KirkyInCT

Re: Thoughts on a Grill

said by KirkyInCT:

Still using a Weber that was an hand me down and we've had it about 10 years now...

My Weber Genesis E-320 is sitting proudly on my deck.

When we moved in here almost 2 years ago, the previous owner left me his Weber. (He was downsizing to a townhouse.)

It's a 1992 Weber Genesis 1000 (NG). I disconnected it, swapped the burner orifices with my (propane) E-320, connected a propane regulator, and gave it to my brother in law. He brought it home, replaced the wood side tables (20 years of sitting in the elements have taken their toll on the wood), and gave it a good cleaning.

It's running like a top. 21 years old, and cooks better than the 2-year-old Brinkmann he had (and threw out in favor of the Weber!)

... and in the process, my E-320 got converted to NG and is also running like a top.

So yeah, THAT'S why I have a Weber.

TheSMJ

join:2009-08-19
Farmington, MI
reply to comp

Lots of Weber grills on Craigslist in my area. One guy wanted $450 for a Weber Genesis. I would have gone for it but when I emailed him, he told me a guy was coming to take a look at it within an hour. I told him that I'd never be able to beat him there (I was 45 minutes away and had another 30 minutes of work ahead of me) but asked that he let me know if it was still available later on. I'm not holding my breath, but one can dream.

Anyways, there are quite a few other Webers going for $150. Not as nice as the Genesis, but they're better than what I have now, which is jack squat.


jp16

join:2010-05-04
united state
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to Jon

+3

I couldn't do gas. I think my grandpa would come back to like and dope slap me...

I have a Weber Kettle. It is almost 10 years old. I should replace the charcoal grate but other than that its tip top.

Also if you get the chance, get to the Weber Grill in Chicago. Everything is cooked on Weber charcoal grills... Good stuff.



IowaCowboy
Iowa native
Premium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..
·Comcast
reply to comp

I just bought a Weber Spirit 210 last year. My mother got approved for a Home Depot credit card so we paid it off over time. I am very glad I made that investment as it makes restaurant quality food. The cheap trash Kenmore (Char-broil) that would not stay lit and was notorious for uneven heat and burnt food met its fate at R&R industries (scrap metal recycler here in town) after 3 years.

That Weber is well built and I've got a feeling this thing is going to last a while. Spend the extra money for a Weber, you'll be glad you did.
--
I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner and I currently have DirecTV. They are much better than broadcast TV.

I have not and will not cut the cord.


Beezel

join:2008-12-15
Las Vegas, NV
reply to Postal

said by Postal:

I can't use charcoal where I live, so I shelled out the dough for a Weber Spirit E-210 2 burner grill a couple of months ago ($400).

The build quality and materials are top-notch, but it just doesn't seem to get hot enough (26500 total BTU). It will cook things, but it doesn't seem to really grill things.

Everybody around me has a gas grill and whenever they're grilling I can smell that delicious 'grilling aroma', but I never get that while I'm grilling. I assume because it isn't getting hot enough.

Then again, I can't cook worth a shit, so maybe it's something I'm doing....

Only clean the splash shields and the drip tray every few years. Let the grease and stuff build up (flare ups are your flavor friend). You will get the aroma and flavor just like a charcoal grill. I clean mine like that and everyone doesn't believe me when I say it was cooked on a Weber Genesis E-330

Critsmcgee

join:2011-12-02
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

1 recommendation

reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

Whats so great about these webber grills? We saw a little one at the store the other day and it was pretty pricey.

I use the Weber Q for everything. I cook for 4-6 people 2-3 times a week on it. It might be little but it's big enough for anything people need. Being small allows me to put it in the car and go to the park or a football game with it. I'd never buy another full size grill again after owning a Weber Q. I even use a smoker box with it.

OP: If you have $300 to spend you can get a Weber Q with a stand, propane tank/hose, grill cover, extra drip trays, and even a smoker box for that kind of money.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

Whats so great about these webber grills? We saw a little one at the store the other day and it was pretty pricey.

That's what I'm trying to figure out. We use our grill a lot, summer, winter, whatever. Yes, I've cooked on a Weber (friends have them) and they are nice. If I were in the market I'd probably look at them but there are also other options out there that are just as good.

But our last grill, a Blue Ember lasted 4 years and was working fine when we left it for the people that bought our house. That included it getting tossed into the neighbor's yard during a nasty wind storm.

At our new house, we have a natural gas BroilMaster that I think is 5-6 years old and it works great. I think I may need to clean the burners this year buy other than that it's been a fine grill.

Then again I tend to take care of my stuff - clean the burners as needed, pressure wash it every year or 2, etc. I think if you buy mid level and take care of it anything will be fine and last a while.

comp
Premium
join:2001-08-16
Evans City, PA
Reviews:
·Armstrong Zoom ..
·DIRECTV
reply to comp

Wow this took off faster that I thought... I do like the Webers but the initial starting price is too high right now... Maybe next year or the year after. I guess in that case I could swing for the char broil infrared till it craps then upgrade... At least with the char broil i can get replacement parts very easily.

I had an Amana grill from Target i got 5 years ago that last 5 years and crapped out at the end of last summer


Spensergig
Past my Prime
Premium,MVM
join:2000-03-26
Bradenton, FL
reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

Whats so great about these webber grills? We saw a little one at the store the other day and it was pretty pricey.

I bought mine new from HD in June 1996.
Had to replace the hose and regulator in April 2002 - OPD tanks came in.
Replaced a cracked cast iron grate in July 2003,
replaced some wooden parts around 2011, and
replaced the flavorizer bars and the drip pan holder and catch pan in July 2012. Total cost of replacements, about $250.

The burners are original, as is the igniter. It still starts on the first push, every time.

In the same time, my kids have each replaced their non-webers 3-4 times. Does that explain it? Pay me now, or pay me (more) later.

--------------------------------------------
Edit: In all fairness... I tried to brew coffee using my camping percolator when we had a power outage. Weber grills are designed to be used with the top closed. I could not get the water to boil and perc. Went to McDonalds instead.

spock1104

join:2005-08-06

1 edit
reply to comp

You might also consider getting a Ducane, they're built and supported by Weber (just produced in China). I got an Affinity 4200 last year and love it. It got use all last year, and I just took the cover off of it yesterday after winter to do some steaks and it held up well despite me not getting a chance to clean it out before the snow. Had some mold and rust spots on the grill, but I wiped it down with vinegar, put the heat on full blast, and went after it with the wire brush, and it looked like new again.

Heat is fairly even and it doesn't have difficulty grilling if you load the entire surface with meats (a cheapo grill I had before doubled its cook time when full of burgers). I actually burned myself slightly trying to pepper the steaks, with all the burners going it gets to 600 degrees.

Lowes has them for 329 right now. »www.lowes.com/pd_98004-505-31421···94857754

Edit: Looks like they're not selling it right now. Maybe someone else carries them, or the 3 burner 3100.


dogo88

join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
reply to comp

One word Weber.

My first was used for over 30 years and only replaced it a couple of years ago because a new one had a better warranty then replacing the individual parts, and was less money.

They may be a bit more money but will make it up over the years. Parts are always available from Weber. It's a solid, well built, great cooking unit that continually gets top ratings.

For $499 you can get a Spirit that has 3 burners and a 10 year warranty on the burners.

As someone that went through 3 or 4 Charmglows in the early years (because they were cheap) my move to Weber was the best decision I made on grilling.

Dan



Postal
First pull up, then pull down.
Premium
join:2000-08-30
Simi Valley, CA
reply to Beezel

said by Beezel:

said by Postal:

I can't use charcoal where I live, so I shelled out the dough for a Weber Spirit E-210 2 burner grill a couple of months ago ($400).

The build quality and materials are top-notch, but it just doesn't seem to get hot enough (26500 total BTU). It will cook things, but it doesn't seem to really grill things.

Everybody around me has a gas grill and whenever they're grilling I can smell that delicious 'grilling aroma', but I never get that while I'm grilling. I assume because it isn't getting hot enough.

Then again, I can't cook worth a shit, so maybe it's something I'm doing....

Only clean the splash shields and the drip tray every few years. Let the grease and stuff build up (flare ups are your flavor friend). You will get the aroma and flavor just like a charcoal grill. I clean mine like that and everyone doesn't believe me when I say it was cooked on a Weber Genesis E-330

Someone else told me this right after I bought it, so I haven't cleaned it yet.

BUT...

Now when I cook on it with the lid down it starts pouring out a nasty smelling white smoke which pisses off my neighbors. Researching the cause of this, all I come up with is that the grease inside is causing this and it should be cleaned.

Not sure what to do at this point.


Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom

said by Postal:

Now when I cook on it with the lid down it starts pouring out a nasty smelling white smoke which pisses off my neighbors. Researching the cause of this, all I come up with is that the grease inside is causing this and it should be cleaned.

Not sure what to do at this point.

This is what grills do when grilling. The fat drops down and produces flames and smoke. It doesn't matter if you clean it or not as the fat burns and there's nothing left but carbon waste.


CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
reply to jp16

said by jp16:

+3

I couldn't do gas. I think my grandpa would come back to like and dope slap me...

I have a Weber Kettle. It is almost 10 years old. I should replace the charcoal grate but other than that its tip top.

Also if you get the chance, get to the Weber Grill in Chicago. Everything is cooked on Weber charcoal grills... Good stuff.

Same here - total charcoal snob as is most of my family. I only wish I could get a cast iron cooking grill. My charcoal tray needs replaced as well - it is bent but I figure that is from me burning wood in it for a bit (yard cleanup)

Weber Grill is awesome - the burners to light the grills to the almost plasma like flames in the grill.
--
Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain


cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
reply to KirkyInCT

said by KirkyInCT:

Still using a Weber that was an hand me down and we've had it about 10 years now...

I won't buy anything but a Weber

+1
--
Splat


PSWired

join:2006-03-26
Annapolis, MD
reply to comp

Another weber vote. I have a 3-burner genesis? that's almost 20 years old now and still works great. The flavorizer bars and grates have been replaced a few times, and maybe the burners too, but it still works perfectly.

My only complaint is the new excess flow valves on propane tanks trip every time I turn the gas on, unless the valve is opened really slowly.



kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY
reply to Oedipus

said by Oedipus:

Whatever you buy now will probably work great for a year or so, but after that it will be a downhill slide.

Keeping a Weber running good for 15 years is not going happen without some maintenance costs, and with the price difference in the cheap stuff, you could end up saving money by getting a new cheap-o every 2-3 years.

I bought a Brinkman from an Aldi store in 2007, and the down hill slide didn't start until last year. I'll be getting rid of it soon.


Msradell
P.E.
Premium
join:2008-12-25
Louisville, KY
reply to spock1104

said by spock1104:

You might also consider getting a Ducane, they're built and supported by Weber (just produced in China)

Ducane used to be a really good grill when they were independently owned and produced in South Carolina. Now that they are owned by Weber and produced in China, they are no better than any of the other junk brands!


Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom

said by Msradell:

said by spock1104:

You might also consider getting a Ducane, they're built and supported by Weber (just produced in China)

Ducane used to be a really good grill when they were independently owned and produced in South Carolina. Now that they are owned by Weber and produced in China, they are no better than any of the other junk brands!

quote:
Weber® charcoal and Weber® Q® grills are manufactured in Huntley, IL, and our Genesis® and Summit® Series gas grills are made in Palatine, IL, using the highest quality components from around the globe.
That says it all.

Source: »www.weber.com/explore/grills/gen···s-ep-310


Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
kudos:2
reply to comp

said by comp:

I guess in that case I could swing for the char broil infrared till it craps then upgrade... At least with the char broil i can get replacement parts very easily.

I bought the CharBroil Commercial 2 burner infrared from Lowes several years ago. (the versions sold by Lowes, Home Depot, and Target are all different) It was a great grill, and is still in use by my brother-in-law. Heats up fast, cooks really well, and replacement parts are dirt cheap. I upgraded to the larger 3 burner version, which sucked so bad I gave it away. So it isn't just about the brand, but also the model.
--
Intel i7-2600k /ASRock P67 Extreme4 /4x 4Gb G.Skill /2x Intel 510 series 250Gb SSD /3x WD20EADS 2TB /2x PNY GTX 260 /Silverstone 850W /Custom water cooler /Antec Twelve-Hundred


IowaCowboy
Iowa native
Premium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..
·Comcast
reply to Jack_in_VA

said by Jack_in_VA:

said by Msradell:

said by spock1104:

You might also consider getting a Ducane, they're built and supported by Weber (just produced in China)

Ducane used to be a really good grill when they were independently owned and produced in South Carolina. Now that they are owned by Weber and produced in China, they are no better than any of the other junk brands!

quote:
Weber® charcoal and Weber® Q® grills are manufactured in Huntley, IL, and our Genesis® and Summit® Series gas grills are made in Palatine, IL, using the highest quality components from around the globe.
That says it all.

Source: »www.weber.com/explore/grills/gen···s-ep-310

My Weber Spirit 210 is made in China. My budget won't allow me to buy a Genesis (even though I'd like one). The Spirit is still high quality, and I bought it at Home Depot so they threw in the heavy duty grill grates.
--
I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner and I currently have DirecTV. They are much better than broadcast TV.

I have not and will not cut the cord.

Beezel

join:2008-12-15
Las Vegas, NV

1 edit
reply to Postal

said by Postal:

said by Beezel:

said by Postal:

I can't use charcoal where I live, so I shelled out the dough for a Weber Spirit E-210 2 burner grill a couple of months ago ($400).

The build quality and materials are top-notch, but it just doesn't seem to get hot enough (26500 total BTU). It will cook things, but it doesn't seem to really grill things.

Everybody around me has a gas grill and whenever they're grilling I can smell that delicious 'grilling aroma', but I never get that while I'm grilling. I assume because it isn't getting hot enough.

Then again, I can't cook worth a shit, so maybe it's something I'm doing....

Only clean the splash shields and the drip tray every few years. Let the grease and stuff build up (flare ups are your flavor friend). You will get the aroma and flavor just like a charcoal grill. I clean mine like that and everyone doesn't believe me when I say it was cooked on a Weber Genesis E-330

Someone else told me this right after I bought it, so I haven't cleaned it yet.

BUT...

Now when I cook on it with the lid down it starts pouring out a nasty smelling white smoke which pisses off my neighbors. Researching the cause of this, all I come up with is that the grease inside is causing this and it should be cleaned.

Not sure what to do at this point.

Don't worry about the neighbors, a charcoal grill will do the same. Smell and smoke comes with the good grilling territory. You want it to smoke that is what will give it the best flavor. That is why most people say gas grills make bland tasting food compared to charcoal. If it is clean you are only cooking with heat, just like broiling. Grease smoke gives it that nice char flavor, and then you can use wood chips also for other flavors.

When first staring with a clean grill it will take a few times for it to get up to producing good flavor since there isn't any grease and fat built up burning and making smoke.

A secret to the cast iron grates is to season them like a cast iron pan. Rub them with cooking oil before lighting and after cooking (let it cool a bit first, lightly scrape off stuck-on debris, and use tongs or similar to hold the oil coated paper towel so you don't get burned). They will eventually become seasoned and be non-stick.

With experience and a good grill you can cook, bake, and make just about any thing you can with a oven or stove.

Oh, about it not getting hot enough are you letting it preheat with the lid down. It takes about 10 minutes or so for some grills to get the grates really hot. Mine can get up to 550 degrees F in about only 5 min. But I have a bigger three burner Weber.


cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
reply to comp

One last thought: Weber vs others
I had an issue a year into ownership. I called them up, on the weekend, and got a REAL person (in US). She was very polite and sent a part out to me (burner tube set).
I had a failure of the burners (three tubes) and they not only sent them out free, but she called me back to verify I am satisfied.
Also told me that it wasn't good idea to keep grilled covered as it trapped moisture and cause failure of the "stainless" tubes.
I know clean it before winter. And inspect before spring use.
I've had mine since 2000 (Genesis 1000) and I've replaced only the burner tubes, and regulator (for using newer Rhino tanks).
I have the cast iron (they may be next part to replace as they got OVER seasoned and catch fire underneath...should clean them but never do...mmmmmm fire...)
--
Splat



ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4
reply to comp

I will jump on this train as well. I grill year round here in CT. Rain, snow, etc, nothing beats a steak done on the grill. When I first bought the house I got a Charbroil, decent model, around $350. End of summer it was already falling apart. Burner issues, cold spots, even had times there would be flare ups behind the control panel. I noticed that when one of the knobs melted off! Hinges broke, all types of nastiness. Bought a Weber Genesis, going on my third summer with it. The build material on them is fantastic, cooks evenly and gets nice and hot to make great grill cross marks on the meat. I use a salt plate on it as well and it gets piping hot. Even the Weber grill cover is excellent quality. Typical you buy a cover and here in New England during the winter they typically will crack and fall apart when it gets real cold. Not this cover.

While they are pricey, it evens out having to buy a cheaper grill every few years. If I were you I would buy a small charcoal grill and save the pennies to get a Weber. If you grill as much as I do you won't go wrong.
--
"So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? »www.venganza.org


laserfan

join:2005-01-14
Texas
reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

My Weber Spirit 210 is made in China.

I didn't know that and am disappointed but then again what ISN'T made in China these days... We have a Weber (Junior, long-LONG discontinued) from around 1990 and it's truly on its last legs (!). So I like Weber as much or more than the next guy but for $400 the Spirit seems sorta gimmicky to me; I guess I just don't like the way it looks.

I was at Lowes the other day looking at the Spirit, and a SS Kitchen Aid for $349, and the Master Forge for $199. Of these 3 appearance-wise the Spirit is dead last IMO. Leaning toward the KitchenAid but for $200 it's hard to resist the MF, which is painted black and probably easier to keep looking nice than the KA.


brhalltx
Premium
join:2002-12-09
Cypress, TX

said by laserfan:

for $200 it's hard to resist the MF, which is painted black and probably easier to keep looking nice than the KA.

Until the paint burns off...

dogo88

join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
reply to comp

In my prior post I said Weber hands down and still believe it. But if cost is a limiting factor check out craigslist. I picked up a great condition older model from there for my dad a few years ago for about $150.

Just another option.

Dan



weberman

@bellsouth.net
reply to Beezel

try using the weber with cast iron grates makes all the difference



grillme

@apexcovantage.com
reply to comp

said by comp:

Wow this took off faster that I thought... I do like the Webers but the initial starting price is too high right now... Maybe next year or the year after. I guess in that case I could swing for the char broil infrared till it craps then upgrade... At least with the char broil i can get replacement parts very easily.

I'm also going to say weber or broil king. Between them they're both made in north america with quality parts and if you need help you can talk to someone local. The starting price is high but look at it another way: You spend $700 on one now that should last 20+ years, parts are always available and most of the stuff is covered under the longest warranties of any grill. Or you spend $350 every 2-5 years on no name junk that will fall apart and maybe have parts. Home depot and lowe's are always doing 10% off and interest free financing on grills throughout the summer as well which can ease the pain.


Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom

said by grillme :

I'm also going to say weber or broil king. Between them they're both made in north america with quality parts and if you need help you can talk to someone local.

Weber® charcoal and Weber® Q® grills are manufactured in Huntley, IL, and our Genesis® and Summit® Series gas grills are made in Palatine, IL, using the highest quality components from around the globe.

That says it all. Just because they might be assembled here doesn't mean that the parts used are made here.