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The Q

join:2008-06-26
Collegeville, PA
reply to wsanders

Re: Is Comcast dropping local HD channels in "open QAM"

said by wsanders:

From other threads, looks like this is something they are doing all over, and not a technical glitch. Guess it's time to switch to Direct or Dish. But first - a re-scan.....

Do Direct or Dish differ HD channels in open QAM (with no box required)?

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL

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said by The Q:

Do Direct or Dish differ HD channels in open QAM (with no box required)?

OR...do they offer a "limited basic" (locals only) tier???

(actually, DISH does offer a "Welcome Pak" w/locals & about 20+ cable channels f/$20 a month. However, you cannot get this pkg & get promos (re: FREE equipment/install) as a new sub; you have to buy your equipment upfront.
Also, while you DO get any locals available in HD at no extra charge, you CANNOT get any of the HD versions of the included cable channels in that pkg, nor can you opt to pay the extra $10 HD fee to get them, either.

»www.dish.com/entertainment/packages/welcome/

DirecTV doesn't offer anything comparable...


wsanders

join:2002-09-18
Lafayette, CA
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At least with Direct or Dish you get a box with HDMI output. The only digital converter box Comcast offered us for free only had NTSC and CH3/4 modulated output.

Also, we have Xfinity at work with the "pay extra" HD upgrade; the HD channels are OK but all the SD channels look like they are being transmitted over a 9600 bps modem. I get better pictures on Youtube.


telcodad
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join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
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said by The Q:

Do Direct or Dish [o]ffer HD channels in open QAM (with no box required)?

AFAIK, "Clear QAM" is not provided by direct broadcast satellite services, such as Dish Network and DirecTV, due to the nature of the signals [from the satellite dish(es)/LNB(s)] that are used by them.

said by wsanders:

At least with Direct or Dish you get a box with HDMI output. The only digital converter box Comcast offered us for free only had NTSC and CH3/4 modulated output.

HD versions of those digital adapter boxes (DTAs), with HDMI outputs, are starting to be rolled-out by Comcast now:
»HD DTA's coming "soon"
»[DTA] What DTAs is Comcast acquiring that are brand new

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL

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reply to wsanders
said by wsanders:

At least with Direct or Dish you get a box with HDMI output.

NOT always; depends on which equipment you buy, &/or depending on equipment requirements for you particular local market.

EG: On DirecTV, in our market, you DO get all HD receivers as standard equip, since those are required to get our local channels. But in other markets, unless you pay for HD, you ONLY get SD receivers/equip for FREE, that do NOT have HDMI outs.

On DISH, in our market, HD receivers are NOT required, & hence are NOT always a standard install. DISH is still VERY much installing SD (only) receivers to this day. However, in other (Eastern Arc) markets, you DO get HD receivers standard.

Bottom line - don't make blanket statements, that are NOT fact...

The only digital converter box Comcast offered us for free only had NTSC and CH3/4 modulated output.

You DO realize that neither DISH, DirecTV, U-verse, or FiOS have ANY such "FREE" (monthly) boxes.
AND in case you didn't realize - since you ARE a CC limited basic sub, you CAN get a full HD box for only $2.50 each, & you DON'T even have to pay the additional "HD tech" fee, either.

Each extra receiver from any of the above competitors start at, at least $6/month+ - so $2.50 for a full HD box sounds like a bargain to me...