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robman50

join:2010-12-14

Floppy LED won't turn off

What is wrong here? I connected an floppy cable (twisted end on the 3 1/2' floppy drive and the line on the wire is lined up with 'pin 1') and I plugged in the power cable. Then I enabled it in the BIOS '3 1/2' 1.4MB for Drive A'. The drive does seek but the LED stays on, shouldn't turn off when the drive is idle?



gwalk
Premium
join:2005-07-27
West Mich.

Usually the cause is the cable is connected backwards.


robman50

join:2010-12-14

said by gwalk:

Usually the cause is the cable is connected backwards.

Which backwards? Not lined up with pin 1?


MineCoast
Premium
join:2004-10-06
127.0.0.1

said by robman50:

said by gwalk:

Usually the cause is the cable is connected backwards.

Which backwards? Not lined up with pin 1?

You need to flip the cable upside town.


Dogg
Premium
join:2003-06-11
Belleville, IL
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to robman50

It's been ages since I've dealt with Floppies. But I seem to recall that not all cables are the same.

What can you even store on a floppy drive? The only real benefit I ever had for a floppy was being able to boot from it in emergencies.
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robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to robman50

Someone gave me their old computer to fix so I thought I would just toss in an floppy cable since the drive is there and it has the power cable attached.


robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to Dogg

What are some of the differences of the floppy cables? My spares are the black ASUS floppy cables with the white line for pin 1.



Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Saint Paul, MN
reply to gwalk

I'm with gwalk See Profile almost every time I ever saw this the cable was on backwards, pin 1 not on pin 1. The reason for this was most drives weren't 100% clear on pin numbering. Having the cable on backwards never damaged the drive in my experience.
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Gem
Premium
join:2005-09-10
kudos:4
Reviews:
·CableOne
reply to robman50

Two points.

1) the cable that is incorrectly connected is the flat floppy ribbon cable.

2) all you need to do is unplug and flip the ribbon cable 180 degrees. Then reconnect it in the correct orientation.

Most floppy cables have a thin red line down one side of them. On most floppy drives you want that red line closest to the four pin floppy power connection. That's a general rule that works most, but not all, of the time.

The floppy led being on all the time is a sign to you that the ribbon cable is attached the wrong way.

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Does the floppy drive work in all other respects? That is does it read and write and can it be read from windows as well as the bios? If so, disregard my comments about how to realign the cable. From looking at your first post it appears you already have the cable on correctly for most floppy drives.


IamGimli

join:2004-02-28
Canada
kudos:2
reply to robman50

Some floppy drives also don't have a "case" around the connector, so it's possible to plug the connector in while not perfectly aligned with all the pins, which can cause a permanently-lit LED as well.


Mister_E

join:2004-04-02
Etobicoke, ON
reply to robman50

Also, be sure that you've lined up pin 1 on the mother board socket.



gwalk
Premium
join:2005-07-27
West Mich.

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reply to robman50

Just for giggles, does the cable your using have a "twist" in it ?

Can't post a pic, second picture:

»www.google.com/search?q=floppy+d···&bih=532



aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
kudos:1

Yeah, a permanently lit LED usually means a flipped cable on the floppy.


robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to gwalk

said by gwalk:

Just for giggles, does the cable your using have a "twist" in it ?

Can't post a pic, second picture:

»www.google.com/search?q=floppy+d···&bih=532

yup. looks something like this.
»i.ebayimg.com/t/Asus-Floppy-Cabl···0_58.JPG


gwalk
Premium
join:2005-07-27
West Mich.

Have tried yet unplugging it at the drive and flipping the cable over ? ( ignoring the red line and #1 pin position)



Anonymous_
Anonymous
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127.0.0.1
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·Time Warner Cable
reply to Dogg

said by Dogg:

It's been ages since I've dealt with Floppies. But I seem to recall that not all cables are the same.

What can you even store on a floppy drive? The only real benefit I ever had for a floppy was being able to boot from it in emergencies.

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Gem
Premium
join:2005-09-10
kudos:4
reply to gwalk

That's been suggested. Don't know if OP has tried that.



gwalk
Premium
join:2005-07-27
West Mich.

That's why I suggested it again. Most likely cause, doesn't cost anything and only takes a moment.


robman50

join:2010-12-14
reply to robman50

Floppy drive is working perfectly now and the light is turning off when the drive is not being used. Sure enough I had to try many different ways to plug the cable in the motherboard and in the drive. The thing that got me was on the non-twisted end the cable had the 3rd pin hole kinda blocked off but there was just enough room to get the pin from the motherboard to slide on in.



Dustyn
Premium
join:2003-02-26
Ontario, CAN
kudos:11
reply to gwalk

said by gwalk:

Usually the cause is the cable is connected backwards.

Solution provided in 3 hours.

robman50

join:2010-12-14

haha true. It would have helped if the cable had a 'key' on the one side.


Gem
Premium
join:2005-09-10
kudos:4
reply to robman50

Glad it worked. Those old floppy drives can be tricky.


robman50

join:2010-12-14

and that is why I am really glad they invented SATA and replaced the floppy drives with USB sticks and optical disks.



gwalk
Premium
join:2005-07-27
West Mich.
reply to robman50

Floppys did however provide a painless way to "F6" a SATA driver during installs.



psafux
Premium,VIP
join:2005-11-10
kudos:2
reply to Dustyn

said by Dustyn:

said by gwalk:

Usually the cause is the cable is connected backwards.

Solution provided in 3 hours.

And 4 hours. And 5 hours. And 5.5 hours, and 5.75 hours, and 6 hours, and 6.5 hours, and 7 hours, etc.

Fat City
Premium
join:2003-03-10
Freedonia


robman50

join:2010-12-14

HAHAHAAHAHAAAA!!
Okay well it could have been 5 minutes if I wasn't so darn busy. lol
That and I was out of the house for a while.


floydb1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA
reply to robman50

Why are you even bothering with Floppy Disks??? There only 2MB unformatted and 1.44MB formatted They died out when optical disc's came along

700 MB CD-ROM = 486 Floppy's
800 MB CD-ROM = 555 Floppy's
4.7 GB DVD (single-sided, single-layer = 3,263 Floppy's
8.5 GB DVD (single-sided, double-layer = 5,902 Floppy's
9.4 GB DVD (double-sided, single-layer = 6,527 Floppy's
17 GB DVD (double-sided, double-layer = 11,805 Floppy's

Do you get what I am saying here???



MineCoast
Premium
join:2004-10-06
127.0.0.1

1 recommendation

You ever think he might have a collection of floppy disks with files/software on them? I have at least 50+ disks so I keep a floppy drive in at least one of my systems plus I run vintage systems for gaming... I have an old 166 Mhz Pentium for example.



aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
kudos:1
reply to floydb1982

said by floydb1982:

Why are you even bothering with Floppy Disks??? There only 2MB unformatted and 1.44MB formatted They died out when optical disc's came along

»What happend to 2.88MB Floppy Disk's
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