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pulsar777

join:2009-12-21

[Vista] Vista updates

I just do some maintenance my brother's laptop, HP Pavilion DV6500 (AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual, TK-53 1,76GHz) with Vista.
It was extremely slow in booting, worked also slow, and Vista has not been updated for a long time. I installed SP1, SP2, and huge amount of microsoft updates and fixes, both important and recommended, plus antivirus.
The problem is now that there's not so much free space remains on disc, only 47,8Gb free of 141Gb, so I want to remove the maximum of unnecessary stuff. There is still installed a lot of HP stuff, bloatware.

I am not sure about these points: there is installed McAfee Security Scan Plus, does it make sense to remove it, as I installed new antivirus?
There is installed a lot of apps, shown in Add/Remove programs, which purpose is not clear:

- Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable 10.0.40219 (11Mb) - is it part of update, is it required by Vista or another ms applications?
- two Java:
Java 7 Update 21 - Oracle - 129 Mb (installed during some update),
Java(TM)SE Runtime Environment - Sun - 115 Mb
Does Windows need both this Java?

- Also, does it make sense to leave only important windows updates, and to remove recommended updates?


aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
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said by pulsar777:

- Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable 10.0.40219 (11Mb) - is it part of update, is it required by Vista or another ms applications?
- two Java:
Java 7 Update 21 - Oracle - 129 Mb (installed during some update),
Java(TM)SE Runtime Environment - Sun - 115 Mb
Does Windows need both this Java?

I wouldn't remove those, and would leave all the optional updates, too.

Did you look at the Temp directories and caches?

In any case, the best course of action would be to put in a bigger HD, at least 250 GB.
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La Luna
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join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
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reply to pulsar777
Have you tried running CCleaner to get rid of useless junk? Might help a bit.

»www.piriform.com/ccleaner


RWild
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Cary, NC
reply to pulsar777
Have the system restore/recovery DVDs been made for this computer? They will allow restoring the OS and all the bundled software to factory condition. If not, this would be a good time.

You can browse these DVDs to see what you might consider crapwear that could be removed with confidence you could reinstall if you change your mind.

What about a recent chkdsk followed by a defrag?

pulsar777

join:2009-12-21
I don't need to restore updated Vista SP2 to old condition. I used Ccleaner to clean temporary files and cached files. I did defrag before installing all these updates. Updates itself take many disk space.

s_becker

join:2013-04-05
reply to pulsar777
I can't tell you what you shouldn't uninstall because I don't know how the laptop will be used in the future.

It seems to me that McAfee Security Scan Plus can be uninstalled when you already have another antivirus installed.

I wouldn't uninstall any redistributable since since we're talking about 11 MB out of 142000 MB.

And that's another point. 47,8 GB out of 141 GB free sounds quite okay to me. Since it's more than 1/3 of the whole disk that is still available. Also 100 GB for the Windows installation + Applications and same data sounds okay to me.

If you need space, use a larger hard drive. If you want to clean up the system, do as RWild See Profile said and restore the system and go along from there on.

Maybe you could post the whole list of installed applications and one could take a look to check for obviously unnecessary software.


Freddy
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reply to pulsar777
pulsar777,

Also, the following program may be useful in identifying software to uninstall:

»pcdecrapifier.com/

Just be alert to be sure you don't install some additional software while downloading and installing decrapifier. Even with the program, you still need to use judgment about what to remove. This program helps to identify just what you have installed, and it will remove any once you give it the OK.

Freddy

pulsar777

join:2009-12-21
reply to s_becker
Well, I uninstalled 6 of recommended ms updates, include .NET Client Profile, also two optional updates for HP hardware, Conexant Fax Modem and Synaptics touchpad driver. Also uninstalled McAfee Security Scan Plus. Does anyone know compact free antivirus for Vista, better than AVG 2013 free?

Gem
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How about Microsoft's own Security Essentials? That seems fairly light as far as virus/malware scanners go, runs quietly in the background, and catches much of the same thing that larger, more bloated stand alone programs seem to catch.

Not sure, perhaps Security Essentials has a new name. Seems MSFT is always changing something.

dmagerl
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join:2007-08-06
Woodstock, IL
reply to pulsar777
Both Vista SP1 and SP2 included clean up tools to remove unneeded backup files.

For SP1 the command is vsp1cln.exe
For SP2 it's compcln.exe

You can google those to get more information.

Running these commands basically makes SP1 & SP2 unremovable but I dont know too many people who ever remove them anyway.

pulsar777

join:2009-12-21
After defragging a harddrive, installing SP1, SP2, and all ms updates (all important and most recommended), installing new AVG2013 antivirus, and removing a lot of junk applications, I still didn't get a performance improvement, moreover, Vista boots even slower than before updates, boot takes about 5mins, and it works also slow. Is there way to solve this problem? I know I should increase memory up to 2Gb at least, but is this only reason?


aurgathor

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There are several ways to remedy this situation, or at least speed up boot somewhat.
a) Install an SSD
b) Install a faster HD
c) Use Win7 or Win8 instead of Vista. They, especially Win8, should boot a lot faster than Vista.
d) Do some profiling and figure out why it takes so long to boot
e) Disable on-boot virus scan

Some of these are easier to do than others, some are free, others don't. YMMV.
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