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Kono

@shawcable.net

[BC] [SHAW] BB100, Torrents under 2MB/s, everything else OK

I am on Shaw's Broadband 100.

8 months ago I moved to a new apartment. I set up everything, RT-N16 /w tomato, gigabit cables and 1 gigabit switch. All good.
Everything works perfectly, my speed tests almost always give me great results. (85/4.5 almost 80% of the time)

When I download a game from steam, it shoots up to like 13MB/s sometimes.
But when I download from utorrent (for the past 8 months), I have NEVER seen above 2MB/s (it's usually at 600KB/s).

I've mucked around with a plethora of settings on utorrent and my router and could never successfully reach above 2MB/s download.

Does anyone else have these issues and/or have been able to solve them somehow?

Greatly appreciate any tips/help!


zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC
Reviews:
·Shaw

Generally the first reason is that not everyone has a wicked fast connection. The faster your connection, the lower the probability you can find things that can make the connection go full out.

I've seen torrent go full speed, but only on private trackers with plenty of seeds.

You're connection is so fast there might not be enough bandwidth in the swarm to upload to you the fast? You're reliant on the overall bandwidth available in the swarm, and how many other peers are leeching from it.


scubascythan

join:2005-05-14
reply to Kono

Very likely not a shaw issue, just not enough seeders with high upload.

Use some private trackers with users who run seedboxes. It'll max out.


kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Shaw
reply to Kono

If you are only getting 85 down 80% of the time, your area could be starting to get congested, in such, Shaw starts to take actions to shape some traffic, especially p2p

This my guess, is that your node is getting shaped
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Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel.


adiabatic

join:2009-01-24
Victoria, BC

1 edit
reply to Kono

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xxJDxx

join:2013-05-23
Penticton, BC
reply to Kono

I might be wrong, but isnt' your download speed often relative to your upload speed?

I notice that even though my download speed on telus is a little slower than shaw, most torrents seem to go faster. I attributed this to the much higher upload speeds.



18286719

join:2013-02-02
Whistler, BC

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if u pulled torrents from the private trackers im on, you would always get full speed or as close to the people who are seeding it can get, your download is full dependent on how many people are seeding, then how many people like u are leeching, and how much upload divided by the number of users is the average download, u always gotta look at seeders to leechers and consider the time the torrent was posted and when your downloading, if you download a fresh torrent your pretty unlikely to get full speed, free torrent sites suck thats all i have to say, sometimes its hard for me to get above 5 megs tho.... my guess is its just where u gettin ur torrents from thats bad or overcrowded with leechers


rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB
reply to Kono

I would be limiting my upload speed in utorrent as shaw throttles on excessive uploading. It also throws huge red flags when a residential connection is continually saturated on the upload side.



18286719

join:2013-02-02
Whistler, BC

lol, well maybe if shaw would bump upload speeds up then my upload wouldnt be so saturated for so long.......... i wish people used upload more so shaw would actually give upload speeds similar to US cable providers, comcast users are getting 50/10 and getting more like 52/12, aswell as people on the 105 are slowly getting bumped upto 20 mbps upload, and i have seen speedtests of close to 25, shaws upload/download ratio is all out of wack and if u ask me the first fix should be bumping the bb250 upload 25mbps upload.... then moving the 15 available on the 250 to the bb100



rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB

First step is grammar, so we can understand you. It has got better since the last post you decided to proceed with.

Seeding that much isn't going to do anything for your downloads or reputation. The only thing you are going to do is throw red flags when looking for excessive usage. I can torrent just fine with my upload limited to 40 kB/s and only 2 kB/s when not downloading.



18286719

join:2013-02-02
Whistler, BC

lol, do u even know how private trackers work my friend, you can only download as much as u upload, + when i create a torrent, im forced to upload heavy to like the first 10 people, then the load is taken of me and i switch the torrent to a 100kb max, i shouldnt have to do this tho i should be able to seed all day with no limit sorry that i support the torrent community



Darhole
Premium
join:2005-06-14
Edmonton, AB
kudos:1

2 edits

edit: don't talk about piracy in a public forum... jeez



Kono

@shawcable.net
reply to zod5000

Well in regards to "low seeds, maybe they can't upload fast enough".

This has been going on for 8months, and I usually download popular, highly seeded torrents off popular sites. I have NEVER seen it go above 2MB/s. In fact, usually when it gets close to 1.9MB/s, it'll drop back down to 1MB/s lol.

I wonder if it is congestion at the node for my building, but I have yet to be able to fiddle and solve this issue on my end.

All this said, with the same torrent sites I use and the same router/modem/shaw plan I have, I used to at least get 5MB/s+ when downloading multiple (5+) at a time. Sometimes nearly maxing out my connection.

I'll probably ask Shaw about it, I've just been really lazy.



Darhole
Premium
join:2005-06-14
Edmonton, AB
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TELUS

said by Kono :

Well in regards to "low seeds, maybe they can't upload fast enough".

This has been going on for 8months, and I usually download popular, highly seeded torrents off popular sites. I have NEVER seen it go above 2MB/s. In fact, usually when it gets close to 1.9MB/s, it'll drop back down to 1MB/s lol.

I wonder if it is congestion at the node for my building, but I have yet to be able to fiddle and solve this issue on my end.

All this said, with the same torrent sites I use and the same router/modem/shaw plan I have, I used to at least get 5MB/s+ when downloading multiple (5+) at a time. Sometimes nearly maxing out my connection.

I'll probably ask Shaw about it, I've just been really lazy.

Yes, please call Shaw and ask them why the stuff you are pirating is downloading slow.. that will go over very well.

Make sure encryption is enabled, update your client, change your port and make sure its forwarded properly. For all other inquiries go to utorrents site or somewhere where pirating is allowed

kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Shaw
reply to Kono

So you can max out your connection, but only when using multiple torrents? This will be your configuration issue, not Shaws

Check your bittorrent software to make sure you haven't set a 2 MB/s limit per torrent
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Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel.



18286719

join:2013-02-02
Whistler, BC
reply to Darhole

its called sharing, not pirating. thank you

Piracy is typically an act of robbery or criminal violence at sea.



Darhole
Premium
join:2005-06-14
Edmonton, AB
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TELUS

pirating present participle of pi·rate (Verb)
Verb
Rob or plunder (a ship).
Use or reproduce (another's work) for profit without permission, usually in contravention of patent or copyright.

It's called pirating.

Also, those trackers you are using with 2000+ per torrent, I wouldn't call those private, anyone can get on them. Which is exactly why you are smart enough to post that you pirate on the same forum where you gave your home address in another thread.


KernelKurtz

join:2012-06-25

1 edit

I've posted this before - you can test for shaping.

»measurementlab.net/measurement-lab-tools

If you are not being shaped, then it comes down to the configuration of your BT clients, and the trackers and swarms that you join.

If you are being shaped it comes down to only the configuration of your clients.



18286719

join:2013-02-02
Whistler, BC
reply to Darhole

i was downloading a 19 gig movie series for my mom at the time so yes it was not a private tracker sorry that i want to maintain my high ratio, but i almost never download easily available files from private sources, i save my trackers for the hard to get stuff, or stuff that goes real slow



Darhole
Premium
join:2005-06-14
Edmonton, AB
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TELUS

Even tho you are a twat, do all your downloading on at least semi-private places. We are by all accounts safe in Canada right now from prying eyes and lawsuits, but rest assured information is being gathered for a time when the ISP's budge and start giving our personal info out.



18286719

join:2013-02-02
Whistler, BC

LOL


tlhIngan

join:2002-07-08
Richmond, BC
kudos:1
reply to Darhole

said by Darhole:

Even tho you are a twat, do all your downloading on at least semi-private places. We are by all accounts safe in Canada right now from prying eyes and lawsuits, but rest assured information is being gathered for a time when the ISP's budge and start giving our personal info out.

No longer. The Harper Government has made it possible for lawsuits to come north of the border, and in fact they've already started happening.

The only good thing is that it only costs $5000 max.


Darhole
Premium
join:2005-06-14
Edmonton, AB
kudos:1

All the more reason to try and keep your anonymity. Vpns, seedboxes, not posting your address on the same forum you freely admit pirating on, etc


parrelium

join:2005-07-31
Abbotsford, BC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TELUS
reply to Darhole

pirating present participle of pi·rate (Verb)
Verb
Rob or plunder (a ship).
Use or reproduce (another's work) for profit without permission, usually in contravention of patent or copyright.

It's called pirating.

Yes, exactly.... for profit. So almost all of us just share.


gramboh

join:2004-01-22
Calgary, AB

I'm having a similar issue as the OP. Usually only get 2-4MB/s on heavily seeded torrents, whereas in the past I would hit 10-12MB/s. I also very rarely seem to be able to seed/upload, again in the past with 100-120 active torrents I would seed 4-5GB/day, now I barely do 5GB in a week.

Example of slow speeds, these are on a tracker loaded with seedboxes:




Notes:
BB100 in Vancouver BC
Live in old house but coax was re-run last year when we moved in
Linksys 310N Gigabit router with Gigabit NIC on desktop (wired)
Speedtest.net does 80-100mb/s down and 5mb/s up consistently
These are the only two active torrents in my client during this test, and have been running for 20-30 min

Haven't bothered calling Shaw since I doubt there is anything tech support can do over the phone to help. Contemplating dropping to BB50 to save $10 a month.

Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
reply to Kono

I have no problem hitting 25mb/s on torrents


gramboh

join:2004-01-22
Calgary, AB
reply to Kono

Of course after going through the effort of posting that picture, my DL is now going at 9MB/s haha.


tlhIngan

join:2002-07-08
Richmond, BC
kudos:1
reply to Kono

Perhaps the reason is your upload speed sucks.

You're complaining you're only getting 3MB/s down, when you're only uploading 10kB/sec? Or better yet, you only have 1 peer connected out of 72?

And the other one, you're getting 500kB/s down, and not connected to any peers.

Hell, look at the ratio - 1.76GB down, 144kB uploaded. The other one is slightly better, 737MB/448kB.

Obviously you're either restricting your upload or you have a configuration issue with your router.

With 138 seeds and 72 peers, you should be uploading a LOT more.

Consider getting 3MB/sec lucky.


kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:3

I was going to mention that but I thought it better not to lol


gramboh

join:2004-01-22
Calgary, AB
reply to tlhIngan

said by tlhIngan:

Perhaps the reason is your upload speed sucks.

You're complaining you're only getting 3MB/s down, when you're only uploading 10kB/sec? Or better yet, you only have 1 peer connected out of 72?

And the other one, you're getting 500kB/s down, and not connected to any peers.

Hell, look at the ratio - 1.76GB down, 144kB uploaded. The other one is slightly better, 737MB/448kB.

Obviously you're either restricting your upload or you have a configuration issue with your router.

With 138 seeds and 72 peers, you should be uploading a LOT more.

Consider getting 3MB/sec lucky.

This tracker has a ton of people using seedboxes, I have a hard time sending a lot (but my ratio is 1.7:1, as I seed forever), but that is really the only problem I have with BT on shaw lately, I almost never upload, even with 120 seeded torrents. My network config is setup properly, I have the BT port open, encryption forced, uTorrent network test says it's fine. Compared to the past few years, lately I just never seem to upload much, which makes me suspicious of Shaw.

Downstream is fine now, hit 9MB last night.