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LordKronos

join:2002-01-02
Dearborn Heights, MI
reply to smunro622

Re: Faster Speeds?

said by smunro622:

they should start offering freebies like a free static ip address on the 50 meg tier also, along with a faster upload speed. i know comcast sales people have been door to door in our area to promote their stuff.

With WOW, everybody pretty much gets an essentially-static IP for free the way it is. I've got logs going back to 2009 showing I've had the same IP, and I think I had that same IP at least a couple years before I began logging.


aes128

join:2003-12-19
Auburn Hills, MI

Also with WOW you get 3 IPs, not just one. I am wondering when they will stop that. I have all 3 of mine in use. One is for a standalone wireless router, one for my main wired router and one has a Linux server on it with one NIC directly on the Internet and one in the DMZ of my wired router.

If you like to play with stuff, having 3 IPs is nice, granted that most people would never use more than one.

I am pretty sure Comcast will not give you 3 IPs.


boopin

join:2011-08-25
reply to nicholasr87

said by nicholasr87:

Comcast isn't even available in Columbus

I wish they were. Would give WOW and Time Warner more incentive to improve. I know there are plenty of horror stories out there about Comcast's customer service but I think that's the case for any company as large as they are.

With Comcast being a big player in one of WOW's largest markets (Chicago) I was hoping they'd push them there but with WOW expanding as much as they seem to be lately it probably allows them to not worry too much about what Comcast is doing in one of their areas anymore.

baess

join:2011-01-28
reply to aes128

said by aes128:

Also with WOW you get 3 IPs, not just one.

If you like to play with stuff, having 3 IPs is nice, granted that most people would never use more than one.

I am pretty sure Comcast will not give you 3 IPs.

How does one find these 3 IPs?


aes128

join:2003-12-19
Auburn Hills, MI

said by baess:

said by aes128:

Also with WOW you get 3 IPs, not just one.

If you like to play with stuff, having 3 IPs is nice, granted that most people would never use more than one.

I am pretty sure Comcast will not give you 3 IPs.

How does one find these 3 IPs?

Well the MODEM will hand out 3 IPs to 3 different MACs. So you need to run the cable from the MODEM into a switch 1st. Most people do not do this but run the MODEM directly into a router. So my MODEM is connected to a 5 port gig switch and then my wired router, my Linux box and the wireless router are all plugged into this "external" switch. This gets these 3 devices different external IPs. If I plug a 4th device in, then one of the other 3 loses it's IP.

Sometimes the 3 devices are even on different WOW nets.

boopin

join:2011-08-25

said by aes128:

said by baess:

said by aes128:

Also with WOW you get 3 IPs, not just one.

If you like to play with stuff, having 3 IPs is nice, granted that most people would never use more than one.

I am pretty sure Comcast will not give you 3 IPs.

How does one find these 3 IPs?

Well the MODEM will hand out 3 IPs to 3 different MACs. So you need to run the cable from the MODEM into a switch 1st. Most people do not do this but run the MODEM directly into a router. So my MODEM is connected to a 5 port gig switch and then my wired router, my Linux box and the wireless router are all plugged into this "external" switch. This gets these 3 devices different external IPs. If I plug a 4th device in, then one of the other 3 loses it's IP.

Sometimes the 3 devices are even on different WOW nets.

I assume this won't work with Ultra since the gateway has a router built in?

Body Count

join:2010-09-11
Columbus, OH
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

So whats the advantage of having three different external IP's besides running a home business web server?

Using a router that assigns 192.168.0.xxx IP's would work just the same.



aes128

join:2003-12-19
Auburn Hills, MI

said by Body Count:

So whats the advantage of having three different external IP's besides running a home business web server?

Using a router that assigns 192.168.0.xxx IP's would work just the same.

There is no big advantage for the normal WOW subscribers but if you work in the network area as a professional as I do it is really nice.

This allows me to run 3 different devices on the net and I can test things this way. I can bring home a FortiGate firewall, hook it up to the Internet totally outside of my normal home net and work with it. My company uses FortiNet devices and this allows me to test them with beta firmware in a way I could not at work. My normal home firewall is not a FortiNet device as it's a bit too pricey for me but I have access to small ones from work to test. Even the small ones we use for parts distribution centers are like $700. Then we always deploy them in pairs in an HA configuration.

I do not run any home web servers as that is just a waste of time. Hosting services are so cheap these days that running at home is just not worth it. Done that and been there. I have my own domain name hosted elsewhere.

clocks11

join:2002-05-06
00000
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

Another company boosts speeds. Lowest tier will be 15/5, versus WOW at 2/1.

»Leaked Memo: New Cablevision Speeds Arrive July 15


devolved

join:2012-07-11
reply to indigoblu3

The 50Mbps is expensive in general. Midcontinent here in Rapid City has a 100Mbps that is cheaper than WOW's 50Mbps tier.


devolved

join:2012-07-11
reply to JamfSlayer

Friend of mine has Comcast. She hates it. It's down more than it's up. She's always calling the tech at least once a month to either fix her phone or fix her internet.

According to the BBB, Comcast scores a B- while WOW scores an A+.



ghettocowboy

@wideopenwest.com
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

really time to bump speeds. even the small carriers are beating them.

2/1 to 15/2.
15/1 to 30/5.
30/3 to 50/10.
50/5 to 100/20.

they could even keep the 2/1 on as an economy package for lower income families for $20/month or something.


TebTeb

join:2009-01-28
Columbus, OH

One can only hope...


clocks11

join:2002-05-06
00000
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

The 2/1 tier is a joke in this day & age. That's slower than DSL. Should be 6 or 8meg minimum, unless their network has some serious capacity issues.



Masco

@comcast.net
reply to ghettocowboy

Except WOW offers at least 80% speed guarantee where what you compare it to is a bunch of up to speeds, so you'll never get those speeds. Sure they have boosters for the first how many seconds of your action, to fool the speedtests, but that doesn't guarantee you crap.



smunro622
Premium
join:2006-02-15
Madison Heights, MI
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

I agree on the speeds they need a bump, all I have is internet from WOW.
50/5 should be around $65 a month.



Clocker1000

join:2001-05-24
Sterling Heights, MI
Reviews:
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and..
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

WOW may offer at 80% speed guarantee but when I left Comcast I was always getting 100% of my rated speeds if the site I was communicating with could handle it, even when I had the 50/10 tier.

I agree that Wows tiers should be more closely linked to Comcast. I think these tiers should move up at the current prices similar to previous posters.

2/1 should become 8/1.
15/1 should become 1 30/5.
30/3 should become 1 50/10.
50/5 should become 1 100/20



asdf330

@wideopenwest.com

Just heard an ad on the radio today gloating at their internet variety. It really upset me the way they offered speed for anyone, with so many speeds. They currently don't have any speed for your average user. Even for the most basic user on the modern web 2 just isn't enough, but for most people 15 is overkill. Not to mention they only offer 4 speeds. Time Warner by me has 6, so I hate that WOW is pushing the variety thing. Anyway the 4 speeds should be

4/1
12/2
30/3
50/5

I think they should add a fifth and have it be like 75/8 or something.

This would give them wide range and still be relevant to most users.

Going from 2 to 15 is to much of a jump especially when most typical users would fall in that range.

The price jump from 30/3 to 50/5 is also too high. They need one or two more offerings and space them out better and have the pricing match and would be good.


Body Count

join:2010-09-11
Columbus, OH
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

If they offered faster speeds.. they would have to start adding a bandwidth cap which none of us want.

the only people who want the 100+ meg speeds are the heavy users. bandwidth caps would have to be in place to protect the network.



Vchat20
Landing is the REAL challenge
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

It's the upload speeds they really need to increase. I'm fine with 15 down at the current prices, but it should be 2 up MINIMUM. 5 would be nice but probably wishful thinking in that tier. I don't even upload that much but not waiting forever when I do would be lovely.
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ghettocowboy

@wideopenwest.com
reply to ITSTOOSLOW

agreed. up speed is the bigger issue. these horrible upload speeds are no good for multiple gamers in the house.



Asdf330

@ccf.org
reply to Body Count

They wouldn't have to add caps. Caps don't solve the bandwidth issue. Dynamic throttling does. If its peak time and your capping out your speed the whole time they can and should slow you down until overall traffic decreases. But my main use comes at about 2-5 am. I could sustain 100mbps the whole time and it wouldn't matter.

I also specifically said 75 in my post. I don't need the speeds, but having 50 be the premium tier priced out of line with the rest isn't really modern at all. Hell, uverse is adding 45, then. Will have 6 speed options. So wow will have less choices and almos the same max option as uverse. That's embarrassing for an up and coming cable company trying to grow. Sure they have been around a while, but only recently have they started buying other large companies and growing.

I question that too. The fate of the cable co as we know it as soon as 5-10 years from now is unknown. Can't believe they spent close to a billion expanding in the current state of the industry.

Plus speeds of 50 or more will be needed sooner than later. 4k streaming. Xbox one and ps4 will have physical media still. But will be pushing online downloads too. Those games will be 20+gb probably. Ps4 has that game streaming and live streaming your gameplay. Just think I'm pushing the boundaries of 30mbps now. Where as just 5 years ago I was thrilled to upgrade to 4mbps on WOW. Demand is greatly increasing. Video quality is going up, games are getting bigger, households have more and more devices sharing the bandwidth. The days of the family computer is over. My household of 3 people often has 5 or 6 devices using the connection at once. Streaming Netflix while playing an online game, someone else is downloading something on their pc but using iPad in the other room. Needs are going up. They always will be going up.


clocks11

join:2002-05-06
00000
reply to Body Count

said by Body Count:

If they offered faster speeds.. they would have to start adding a bandwidth cap which none of us want.

the only people who want the 100+ meg speeds are the heavy users. bandwidth caps would have to be in place to protect the network.

Sorry, but this is BS. You do not have to be a massive downloader to benefit from faster speeds. Otherwise everyone that doesn't use file sharing would just use dial up.

Body Count

join:2010-09-11
Columbus, OH

said by clocks11:

Sorry, but this is BS. You do not have to be a massive downloader to benefit from faster speeds. Otherwise everyone that doesn't use file sharing would just use dial up.

so whats the point of 50 meg or 100 meg speeds if you don't download massive files from it? I call BS on you sir lol.

You want 100 meg service so your webpage loads up 0.005 seconds faster?

Give me a break. Bandwidth caps have to be in place or everyone on that node will suffer when the 100 meg person is online downloading 5 torrents at once.

clocks11

join:2002-05-06
00000

Innovation. As we get faster speeds, we will get services we can even imagine right now.

For instance it opens up new possibilities for cloud services. Right now I only backup txt files, spreadsheets, etc... If I had faster services, I'd move my MP3s, movies, etc to the cloud.

Streaming video is going to become more and more the norm. It would be nice if streaming was instantaneous, rather than watching a buffering scale.


mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI

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reply to Body Count

said by Body Count:

said by clocks11:

Sorry, but this is BS. You do not have to be a massive downloader to benefit from faster speeds. Otherwise everyone that doesn't use file sharing would just use dial up.

so whats the point of 50 meg or 100 meg speeds if you don't download massive files from it? I call BS on you sir lol.

You want 100 meg service so your webpage loads up 0.005 seconds faster?

Give me a break. Bandwidth caps have to be in place or everyone on that node will suffer when the 100 meg person is online downloading 5 torrents at once.

I've seen arguments like yours before, "If I don't need those speeds than nobody does, unless their doing something they shouldn't". And there are legitimate torrents you know.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons why someone would want 50 to 100 mps speeds. A family of four, each streaming high-def video certainly would want that cushion to prevent slow-downs. What about someone who bought a huge amount of games on Steam and then wanted to download them? And coming down the road there will be UHD/4K movie downloads. These speeds might not be for everyone, but there is enough current and future legitimate usage for those tiers.

Body Count

join:2010-09-11
Columbus, OH

I wasn't saying the need wasn't there.

I was saying if they increased our speed, the people with the increased speed would hog all the bandwidth just because they can. That means WOW would have to place bandwidth caps on the network in order to protect their network and other subscribers.

I don't want bandwidth caps.



Clocker1000

join:2001-05-24
Sterling Heights, MI
Reviews:
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and..

I call BS on this. Just being upgraded to faster speeds is not going to change how a given person uses their internet connection. It will allow them to do what they are already doing that much faster and maybe even relieve congestion on the network.

Just like if they raised the speed limit on the freeway. You would not drive more 'just because you can'. You would just spend less time using the freeway per day and you'd even increase it's capacity because people are spending less time driving on it.


Jonathan2

join:2011-12-21
reply to boopin

said by boopin:

I assume this won't work with Ultra since the gateway has a router built in?

I too am curious about this. Will the gateway seek the next 3 MACs too, or would it just quit after giving the 1 to itself?

(p.s. how do you quote everyone, not just one person?)

clocks11

join:2002-05-06
00000

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reply to ITSTOOSLOW

And another company bumps speeds. Tier by tier, WOW has to have some of the slower caps in the USA.

»Time Warner Cable Bumping Speeds Slightly