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El Quintron
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Re: give me standalone HBOGO

said by wesm:

but them's the breaks.

If I can't buy it, then I'm pirating it, and them's breaks.
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said by El Quintron:

said by wesm:

but them's the breaks.

If I can't buy it, then I'm pirating it, and them's breaks.

It's for sale, so buy it. HBO did not lock this title down.
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said by markofmayhem:

It's for sale, so buy it. HBO did not lock this title down.

You're missing the point.
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said by El Quintron:

said by markofmayhem:

It's for sale, so buy it. HBO did not lock this title down.

You're missing the point.

I'm not, I'm trying to defend the definition of "locked down". There is certainly an argument that the premium for earlier viewership is extreme, but this is not a case where it is "not available" or locked down to alternative legal consumption.
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Well if you count streaming or buying the physical media sometime in March of 2014 not locked down, I dont know what is and like $80 for the bluray. If you realize there are only 10 episodes that works out to like $8 an episode, which IMHO is crazy high. Of course I wont buy it, but if you do the math that is a serious ask considering that I can get a full year of Netflix for just the blu ray of GOT.

On the other hand, Time Warner owns it, and can go to market as they please, so it's a corporate decision...Godspeed to living in the 18th century. For the vocal minority a huge swath (20+mil just in the US) blindly subscribe, so they don't want to disrupt that very profitable channel model (they can run reruns during the offseason to keep subs or allow hbogo). So I get that for now being flexible does not make sense as they subscriber base it steady and large. If 6 million pirate, how many of them subscribe to HBO/HBOGO, buy stuff, read the books. It's not a zero sum game, and they know it. Look at how draconian Disney is with their films and how much $$$ they make on ancillary product...

If I recall in the last ten years, my top ten show are almost entirely from the Time Warner properties, so you have to pay for quality. I mean you can get teenagers running around a stage or some tropical island for "free" on broadcast.

They must have sent some of their execs to Microsoft to poison the well over there too



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said by markofmayhem:

There is certainly an argument that the premium for earlier viewership is extreme, but this is not a case where it is "not available" or locked down to alternative legal consumption.

Having to wait for it to be released on DVD/BluRay is not in line with what consumers want, that being said, HBOs main income stream isn't from cable subs, it's from being bundled with other channels which is why they mainly look the other way when it comes to piracy.
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said by El Quintron:

said by markofmayhem:

There is certainly an argument that the premium for earlier viewership is extreme, but this is not a case where it is "not available" or locked down to alternative legal consumption.

Having to wait for it to be released on DVD/BluRay is not in line with what consumers want

I'm not so sure that path is correct either:

said by link :

5.4 million viewers tuned in to "Mhysa" to witness the fallout from last week's much-buzzed-about "Red Wedding" episode. That falls just short of the season's peak viewership: The 5.5 million viewers who tuned in for episode six, "The Climb."

The fantasy saga has shown steady and impressive ratings growth through its first three seasons. Season 3 averaged 5.16 million viewers for first run episodes, up from Season 2's average of 3.8 million viewers and Season 1's 2.52 million viewers.

HBO also reported a average audience of 13.6 million viewers for "Game of Thrones" Season 3 over all network airings, on demand, HBO Go and DVR, an increase of two million viewers from Season 2.

Piracy isn't high enough for the financial-loss monster to be a motivator. The movement is growing and WILL eventually take a foothold to liberate availability of entertainment past the current pay models, but Game of Thrones Season 3 is not it...
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said by markofmayhem:

Piracy isn't high enough for the financial-loss monster to be a motivator.

I've stated as much before, HBOs current cash flow isn't from subs, and it explains how they can hold on to the legacy tv model for now.
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