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wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

Does Charter block ports

I was port forwarding for a game and port utility tool says my ports are closed and I have my windows firewall off.



DaSneaky1D
what's up
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou

What are you port forwarding?


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

1 edit
reply to wingman99

2 Games
7777 UDP/IP
7778 UDP/IP + 1
7787 UDP/IP + 10
28902 TCP/IP

3397/tcp
30477/tcp
17677/udp
3497/udp
3297/udp
3298/udp
3299/udp
3300/udp
3301/udp


Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
Reviews:
·Charter

if you are on a residential connection, there are a few ports that are blocked, regardless of if charter will admit to it. Basically, its stuff that should be restricted to local net only(netbios, stuff like that), and then of course, your port25 mail server is blocked too. Are you sure its not your router? My port checker says all of those ports are open. also, be warned, but if you use a single port for something for too long(like torrents), charter may temporarily block that port on you, and you have to port hop. I think you might have another firewall going, or your router is set to ignore the type of traffic that portcheckers usually use a ping to check a port, and most routers are set to not respond to ping on internet side ports. You might have to check and see if your router is set to respond to and pass on pings from internet ports.


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

2 edits

Thanks for the information and also testing the ports. What is the port checker that you used?

Charter is my ISP however I have fiber to the home with the town of opelika they must be blocking my ports.


Is that legal for FCC allow charter to block ports depending on what you are using and how long?


Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
Reviews:
·Charter

said by wingman99:

Thanks for the information and also testing the ports. What is the port checker that you used?

Charter is my ISP however I have fiber to the home with the town of opelika they must be blocking my ports.

Is that legal for FCC allow charter to block ports depending on what you are using and how long?

So, let me get this right. You have a Dual ISP setup. You have charter and another ISP? how do you have them connected to the same network/LAN?

Charter does only actively block some ports, and the rest is a roving port block based on current network management needs, and is temporary(meaning, 24hours after the port is not being used, its unblocked again). Charter can do whatever it wants under the guise of "network management".

What games are they for, exactly? I cannot find any game that uses all those ports at once, and some of those ports are registered to somethings other than games.


Napsterbater
Meh
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join:2002-12-28
Milledgeville, GA
reply to wingman99

You need to list what Modems you have aswell as what router/s you have.

Are you using a Dual WAN router?

Give us more info on have you network is setup.


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

1 edit
reply to wingman99

Charter is supplying the bandwidth to opelika fiber, so my provider is opelika fiber.

Fiber optic comes to my house to the ONT then to a switch then to my PC no modes or routers.

The two games are UT 2004 and F1 2002


aguen
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join:2003-07-16
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:2
reply to wingman99

So..... What has any of this got to do with Charter?

Are you hosting those games on your PC? How many public IP addresses do you have?

Are you trying to host those games simultaneously?


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

sorry I meant charter.


aguen
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:2
reply to wingman99

You haven't answered my other 2 questions.


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL
reply to wingman99

I try and play host one game at a time on the PC. One public IP address is what I have. The problem is with the closed ports from my provider it seems, not the IP



Napsterbater
Meh
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join:2002-12-28
Milledgeville, GA
reply to wingman99

Wait no Modems or Routers?

Is your PC getting a public IP or a LAN IP?


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

said by Napsterbater:

Wait no Modems or Routers?

Is your PC getting a public IP or a LAN IP?

No Modems or Routers. I have new Fiber optic to the Home and then it goes to ONT: Optical Network Terminal strait to a switch then to my PC. I must be getting a public IP from my Provider.


Napsterbater
Meh
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join:2002-12-28
Milledgeville, GA

Should confirm you have a public IP not always a given.

Here is a good page to help you find it.
»kb.iu.edu/data/aapa.html

Post just the first 3 sections.
Ie. 127.0.0.x


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL
reply to wingman99

24.179.15.XXX



Napsterbater
Meh
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-28
Milledgeville, GA

Indeed public. In that case you needs to start looking at the firewalls on your system. While they could be blocking the port most likely its a firewall issue.


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL
reply to wingman99

I have my firewall off, so I think it is the fiber provider that is blocking my ports.



cablegeek01

join:2003-05-13
USA
kudos:1

said by wingman99:

I have my firewall off, so I think it is the fiber provider that is blocking my ports.

I think you're probably right. Charter doesn't usually block anything to commercial fiber customers, or other ISPs.

aguen
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:2
reply to wingman99

If you wouldn't mind, please perform the following from the desktop of your game server, with one game running, from a cmd window, type in netstat -an >netscan.txt

Locate the file named netscan.txt, probably under your c:\user\"account name" directory and then attach it to your reply here.


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL
reply to wingman99

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:5357 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:49152 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:49153 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:49154 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:49155 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:49156 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:60560 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 100.64.0.63:139 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 100.64.0.63:49265 199.255.40.173:28902 ESTABLISHED
TCP 100.64.0.63:49268 209.123.109.175:80 ESTABLISHED
TCP 100.64.0.63:62655 23.73.180.122:80 CLOSE_WAIT
TCP 100.64.0.63:62701 134.170.24.123:443 ESTABLISHED
TCP 100.64.0.63:65127 69.31.72.237:1935 ESTABLISHED
TCP [::]:135 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:445 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:5357 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:49152 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:49153 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:49154 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:49155 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:49156 [::]:0 LISTENING
TCP [::]:60560 [::]:0 LISTENING
UDP 0.0.0.0:123 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:500 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:4500 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:5355 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:7777 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:7778 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:7787 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:7788 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:10777 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:50867 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:61545 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:62760 *:*
UDP 100.64.0.63:137 *:*
UDP 100.64.0.63:138 *:*
UDP 100.64.0.63:1900 *:*
UDP 100.64.0.63:65320 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:1900 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:44301 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:50764 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:52762 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:55473 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:59477 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:61225 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:65321 *:*
UDP [::]:123 *:*
UDP [::]:500 *:*
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
UDP [::]:4500 *:*
UDP [::]:5355 *:*
UDP [::]:50868 *:*
UDP [::]:61546 *:*
UDP [::]:62761 *:*
UDP [::1]:1900 *:*
UDP [::1]:65319 *:*
UDP [fe80::2cbe:e372:ec9:3b9%11]:546 *:*
UDP [fe80::2cbe:e372:ec9:3b9%11]:1900 *:*
UDP [fe80::2cbe:e372:ec9:3b9%11]:65318 *:*



DrDrew
That others may surf
Premium
join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:15

2 edits

Run a GRC.com Shields UP port test and post the results.

[edit] It's interesting to note, from the way I read it, that the netstat results doesn't show the computer listening on any of the ports originally posted as being used.

What games are being hosted/played?

You said the connection is from the ONT to a switch to your PC. Do you ever connect multiple devices? How?


aguen
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:2
reply to wingman99

It's also "interesting", that the local IP address as shown in the netstat report isn't the one that the OP reported the other day.


aguen
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:2
reply to wingman99

Doing a whois on the "new" IP address range results as the reserved pool of addresses provided (by IANA) for use by ISP's networks during a transitional phase of operation, such as I'm guessing the Opelika network is in. This address range is currently being NAT'd as well, so any/all bets are off with regard to port forwarding.

Meant to include this link in this reply:
»chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/20···0640010/


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL
reply to DrDrew

said by DrDrew:

Run a GRC.com Shields UP port test and post the results.

[edit] It's interesting to note, from the way I read it, that the netstat results doesn't show the computer listening on any of the ports originally posted as being used.

What games are being hosted/played?

You said the connection is from the ONT to a switch to your PC. Do you ever connect multiple devices? How?

It's a 5 port switch each device gets a separate public IP.

wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

4 edits
reply to aguen

said by aguen:

Doing a whois on the "new" IP address range results as the reserved pool of addresses provided (by IANA) for use by ISP's networks during a transitional phase of operation, such as I'm guessing the Opelika network is in. This address range is currently being NAT'd as well, so any/all bets are off with regard to port forwarding.

Meant to include this link in this reply:
»chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/20···0640010/

When I look at my public Ip I have to use a utility because my PC IP is not public. So my provider has the nat and firewall?

I called them today since this is all new to them, they said it will be a long time till they are able to unblock the ports, sounds like they don't know what they are doing because when I called at first they said the ports should all be open.

My last fiber optic provider primecast I had no trouble with ports however they went bankrupt.



DrDrew
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SoCal
kudos:15

said by wingman99:

When I look at my public Ip I have to use a utility because my PC IP is not public. So my provider has the nat and firewall?

It looks like your fiber provider doesn't have enough public IPv4 addresses so they're using Carrier Grade NAT.
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wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

said by DrDrew:

said by wingman99:

When I look at my public Ip I have to use a utility because my PC IP is not public. So my provider has the nat and firewall?

It looks like your fiber provider doesn't have enough public IPv4 addresses so they're using Carrier Grade NAT.

There is only 60 people in the testing phase on the network now, so I dont think that is the reason there using the Carrier Grade NAT.

Also my other Fiber optic provider used Carrier Grade Nat also.


wizkid6

join:2002-03-31
Opelika, AL

Then one hopes that when it goes live for everyone that they drop CGN otherwise they won't have very many customers because of all the problems CGN causes.

Also, one wonders if they'll offer all the channels in Charter's Silver package for less than $80 (Charter's price).

If not, they won't have very many customers...


wingman99

join:2003-12-18
Opelika, AL

1 edit

said by wizkid6:

Then one hopes that when it goes live for everyone that they drop CGN otherwise they won't have very many customers because of all the problems CGN causes.

Also, one wonders if they'll offer all the channels in Charter's Silver package for less than $80 (Charter's price).

If not, they won't have very many customers...

What does CGN problems cause?

They have there own dishes and programming network for TV, they just pay for satellite time.