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JB
Stay Gold

join:2009-05-14
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reply to qualitybobby

Re: Legendary Quest Line

I got 3 last night, I'm at 10 now >;/ . Will have 11 after I kill Lei SHen tonight (hopefully in 25man)


Pryck

join:2012-02-03
Fredericksburg, VA
reply to Carpie

Finished up to the point that I have to wait for 5.4 last night. The fight with Wrathion was quite annoying (melee challenge). It wasn't the fact it was difficult, just lengthy and have to pace and roll defensive cool downs, etc. It was RNG whether or not the oozes that spawn would bug out and remain at 1% health and increase in speed and damage the longer they were up. Took a few hours of off and on attempts before the bug didn't happen and I was able to down him and get the cloak; yay! Not sure if there are issues with the other challenge options (ranged, healing, tank) but for the melee it's a known issue and just causes headache.



cat666

join:2013-04-26

said by Pryck:

Finished up to the point that I have to wait for 5.4 last night. The fight with Wrathion was quite annoying (melee challenge). It wasn't the fact it was difficult, just lengthy and have to pace and roll defensive cool downs, etc. It was RNG whether or not the oozes that spawn would bug out and remain at 1% health and increase in speed and damage the longer they were up. Took a few hours of off and on attempts before the bug didn't happen and I was able to down him and get the cloak; yay! Not sure if there are issues with the other challenge options (ranged, healing, tank) but for the melee it's a known issue and just causes headache.

I'm not this far yet but I heard whatever you challenge you do has no bearing to your cloak in the slightest. It makes no difference to me, as a warlock I have to do range DPS, but apparantly the tank fight is simple. So try a different spec if you can.

Pryck

join:2012-02-03
Fredericksburg, VA

Correct you get to select any of the cloaks that pertain to your spec once the quest is completed. Which challenge you accept doesn't affect the end reward options. I didn't try any of the other challenges just went with the one designed for my class.



bckck5

join:2010-02-16
Ballwin, MO
reply to Carpie

do secrets only drop from leishen



Carpie

join:2012-10-19
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It's a secret.

No, they are available drop from other ToT bosses as well. But it's a guaranteed drop of Lei Shen.



s1deout
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reply to Carpie

Well i am late to the party but I got both my PvP quests done and CoC as well so I got my one gem.

Now I am on the next part of it.



DarkLogix
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reply to Carpie

said by Carpie:

It's a secret.

No, they are available drop from other ToT bosses as well. But it's a guaranteed drop of Lei Shen.

Unless I missed something secrets drop off all 13 bosses, but runes only drop off the last 7. (now if I could kill that 7th boss just once maybe he'd drop the last rune I need before next week (but ya right on both counts.)

the runes have a 100% chance off lei shen, not the secerets
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cat666

join:2013-04-26

said by DarkLogix:

Unless I missed something secrets drop off all 13 bosses, but runes only drop off the last 7. (now if I could kill that 7th boss just once maybe he'd drop the last rune I need before next week (but ya right on both counts.)

the runes have a 100% chance off lei shen, not the secerets

I may just be lucky, but Lei Shen dropped a secret for me every week since the update. So maybe he guarantees to drop one of whichever you need.


qualitybobby
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join:2009-12-29
Middleville, NY
reply to Carpie

AGAIN, the only runestone that dropped was off of Lei Shen. The drop rate on these is just fucking stupid.



cat666

join:2013-04-26

said by qualitybobby:

AGAIN, the only runestone that dropped was off of Lei Shen. The drop rate on these is just fucking stupid.

I've got 4 in 2 weeks.

It's mostly RNG sadly.

I got 5 Secrets of the Empire one week, and the final week when I just needed 1, only Lei Shen dropped one. I was hoping to get one from an early LFR so I could get a few runestones that week too but it wasn't to be.


DarkLogix
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reply to qualitybobby

said by qualitybobby:

AGAIN, the only runestone that dropped was off of Lei Shen. The drop rate on these is just fucking stupid.

Last week I had one off lie shen and one off qon

I plan to do tot lfr #3 first this week and hope that before lie shen that I have my 12th, then if needed drop group and do the quest.
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qualitybobby
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That's my plan for this week too. I need 3, so if I can get 2 off of the other bosses first (bwahahahahahahahahahahaha), then I can finish the quest on Lei Shen regular.



DarkLogix
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Well I only need one, so if I could get to lei shen reg then it'd be cake (I could LFR the rune then reg the heart)



cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to DarkLogix

said by DarkLogix:

I plan to do tot lfr #3 first this week and hope that before lie shen that I have my 12th, then if needed drop group and do the quest.

Good luck. Like I said I was on 19/20 for the secrets and it was a fresh week. I did LFR1,2 and 3 and no secrets dropped. I was prepared to drop group before Lei Shen so I'd be +1 on the runestones but got nada before Lei Shen so I had to get my final secret from him.


DarkLogix
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said by cat666:

said by DarkLogix:

I plan to do tot lfr #3 first this week and hope that before lie shen that I have my 12th, then if needed drop group and do the quest.

Good luck. Like I said I was on 19/20 for the secrets and it was a fresh week. I did LFR1,2 and 3 and no secrets dropped. I was prepared to drop group before Lei Shen so I'd be +1 on the runestones but got nada before Lei Shen so I had to get my final secret from him.

I bet that's what's gona happen to me
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JB
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reply to qualitybobby

Yup, guildies are saying the same. Should be much higher % in normal/heroic compared to LFR. (imo)



Immer
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said by JB:

Yup, guildies are saying the same. Should be higher % in normal/heroic compared to LFR. (imo)

agreed.
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qualitybobby
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reply to JB

said by JB:

Yup, guildies are saying the same. Should be much higher % in normal/heroic compared to LFR. (imo)

Absolutely.


cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to JB

said by JB:

Yup, guildies are saying the same. Should be much higher % in normal/heroic compared to LFR. (imo)

I don't agree.

This isn't just a raiding quest, it's a quest which has involved elite kills, mob grinding, pvp, solo scenarios, use of professions and raid drops. To punish non-raiders on the raiding part is hardly fair. you'd all be kicking up a fuss if the BG part required them to be Rated BG wins.

Anyway don't the items have a chance to drop off of LFR and normal so normal raiders have double the chance each week if there clearing it all as it is.


DarkLogix
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Well the drop chance should be much higher in reg and above.

it was for the sigils

be happy blizz opted to even let them drop in LFR, many had been thinking that it was just a PTR bug and that in live you'd only get them in reg and hero. (and if they did that I'd be ok with it, it'd make it more legendary)
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qualitybobby
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reply to cat666

said by cat666:

said by JB:

Yup, guildies are saying the same. Should be much higher % in normal/heroic compared to LFR. (imo)

I don't agree.

This isn't just a raiding quest, it's a quest which has involved elite kills, mob grinding, pvp, solo scenarios, use of professions and raid drops. To punish non-raiders on the raiding part is hardly fair. you'd all be kicking up a fuss if the BG part required them to be Rated BG wins.

Anyway don't the items have a chance to drop off of LFR and normal so normal raiders have double the chance each week if there clearing it all as it is.

The problem with that is, every legendary chain (that I can think of)has always been centered on raiding. So saying non-raiders shouldn't be discriminated against is odd, since non-raiders really have never had a chance at legendaries before.


DarkLogix
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Ya legendary are meant for raiders, and have always had little things outside of the instance to do.

this just happens to be the longest one so far and to have rewards along the way.
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JB
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reply to cat666

said by cat666:

Anyway don't the items have a chance to drop off of LFR and normal so normal raiders have double the chance each week if there clearing it all as it is.

Wrong.

The rest of your reply isn't even worth my time.


cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to qualitybobby

said by qualitybobby:

The problem with that is, every legendary chain (that I can think of)has always been centered on raiding. So saying non-raiders shouldn't be discriminated against is odd, since non-raiders really have never had a chance at legendaries before.

Things change.

WoW has never ever had a questline which has spanned an entire expansion before, let alone one which encompasses so many aspects of the game and I applaud Blizzard for doing it.

In the past legendarys have only been gained via raiding, but the current one has well and truly broken the mould, so to want penalize the people who can't raid is elitist.


qualitybobby
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True, things change. But to then claim things wouldn't be fair if non-raiders had a lesser chance then regular raiders do, even though you've never had a chance at all before seems a bit.... odd.

You're being included with the opportunity now, but see no issue with a raider (let alone a heroic raider) getting his LEGENDARY item after a LFR participant who literally could have stood in fire, right clicked and afked on every boss, and trolled non stop just because the RNG gods smiled on him.

Seems the equivalent of claiming LFR participants deserve the same ilvl loot as heroic raiders, because things change and they deserve to get the same goods.



Mordred

join:2013-01-02
reply to Carpie

With LFR in the mix now, the ledendary does not have that same feel as it did in the past. It is more like a really long daily.



JB
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reply to qualitybobby

ilu



cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to qualitybobby

said by qualitybobby:

True, things change. But to then claim things wouldn't be fair if non-raiders had a lesser chance then regular raiders do, even though you've never had a chance at all before seems a bit.... odd.

How does it? This isn't the same style of legendary as it was previously. I've killed mobs for Wrathion, I've done BG's for him, I've farmed Ghost Iron and transmuted them into Trillium for him, we've done the Thunder Forge scenario together etc. etc. Totally different style of legendary than we've ever seen before, it's even a cloak and not a weapon.

You can't compare this entire chain, to the legendaries of the past as too many things are different. Blizzard obviously wants this item to be a legendary for all players and not just raiders, so giving raiders an advantage over others just doesn't seem fair.

said by qualitybobby:

You're being included with the opportunity now, but see no issue with a raider (let alone a heroic raider) getting his LEGENDARY item after a LFR participant who literally could have stood in fire, right clicked and afked on every boss, and trolled non stop just because the RNG gods smiled on him.

Seems the equivalent of claiming LFR participants deserve the same ilvl loot as heroic raiders, because things change and they deserve to get the same goods.

Again the legendary is not a reward for raiding. It's a reward for finishing a long questline of which raiding plays a small part.

I've never claimed that people that do LFR should be entitled to the same loot as heroic raiders. I actually think LFR loot is too good, and should have been seriously toned down. The Secrets of the Empire and the Titan Runestones are not ilevel loot though, they are quest items as part of an ongoing questline, in which raiding is only a small part.

If this questline was just a raiding thing, then I'd have no issues with LFR not having any drops at all, much like the rogue dagger questline. It quite simply isn't just a raiding thing though, and people bemoaning that LFR are getting drops just come across as elitist.

marrec74

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I dont think anyone has issue with LFR participation resulting in the legendary, just that the drop rate should be higher for runes and secrets in a normal modes and higher yet in heroic modes. Much like the drop rates for the caster legendary in Firelands.