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patt2k

join:2009-01-16
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Will VZ-Fios do something about Optimum new tiers?

I really hope they will do something to match that 101/35 for 69$ the price is awesome.

Any thoughts on this?


Smith6612
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Re: Will VZW do something about Optimum new tiers?

VZW doesn't have LTE quite to that capability yet

I would love to see the minimum FiOS tier become 100M on the downstream though.

patt2k

join:2009-01-16
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said by Smith6612:

VZW doesn't have LTE quite to that capability yet

I would love to see the minimum FiOS tier become 100M on the downstream though.

me too man! I hope they raise the 75 to 100 I would be in heaven.


Onedollar

join:2001-08-27
Pomona, CA
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reply to patt2k
Will heaven pay your overage bill on data caps?

patt2k

join:2009-01-16
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said by Onedollar:

Will heaven pay your overage bill on data caps?

What data caps?


Thinkdiff
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reply to patt2k
said by patt2k:

I really hope they will do something to match that 101/35 for 69$ the price is awesome.

While still not confirmed, that price point is for grandfathered-in customers only that are currently paying full price for the 50/8 tier (which is being retired on Monday).

The retail price of Ultra101 is $49.95+55 = $104.95.
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Thinkdiff
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reply to patt2k
said by patt2k:

said by Onedollar:

Will heaven pay your overage bill on data caps?

What data caps?

You made a typo and put VZW instead of Verizon/VZ. So now the thread will be derailed for awhile
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patt2k

join:2009-01-16
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said by Thinkdiff:

said by patt2k:

said by Onedollar:

Will heaven pay your overage bill on data caps?

What data caps?

You made a typo and put VZW instead of Verizon/VZ. So now the thread will be derailed for awhile

Whoops! thanks


Onedollar

join:2001-08-27
Pomona, CA
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reply to patt2k

Re: Will VZ-Fios do something about Optimum new tiers?

Sorry was too much fun.

There is something coming around the corner in terms of speed this year. Price wise i dunno if itll change much.


SoCalDude

join:2008-07-30
Ventura Co.
reply to patt2k
That would be cool if 50/25 > 75/25, 75/35 > 100/35, 150/65 > 300/65, and 300/65 > 500/75.


bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
Wow that would be cool. What is the limit of a BPON ONT?

patt2k

join:2009-01-16
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reply to Onedollar
said by Onedollar:

Sorry was too much fun.

There is something coming around the corner in terms of speed this year. Price wise i dunno if itll change much.

I hope you are right how much would you guys estimate 100 meg to be with VOD? around 110?

serge87

join:2009-11-29
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to patt2k

Re: Will VZW do something about Optimum new tiers?

said by patt2k:

said by Onedollar:

Will heaven pay your overage bill on data caps?

What data caps?

Technically he is right in that there is a data cap...although it is astronomically high to reach

patt2k

join:2009-01-16
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·Verizon FiOS
said by serge87:

said by patt2k:

said by Onedollar:

Will heaven pay your overage bill on data caps?

What data caps?

Technically he is right in that there is a data cap...although it is astronomically high to reach

Well I don't plan to run any servers so I wouldn't care about that part.

I use maybe about 300 gigs a month on download sometimes more my family streams online tv constantly but the bitrate is about 2000 kbps.


SoCalDude

join:2008-07-30
Ventura Co.
reply to patt2k

Re: Will VZ-Fios do something about Optimum new tiers?

Verizon should stop playing around and offer 3 tiers as well. 100, 300, and 500Mbps .

serge87

join:2009-11-29
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reply to patt2k

Re: Will VZW do something about Optimum new tiers?

said by patt2k:

Well I don't plan to run any servers so I wouldn't care about that part.

I use maybe about 300 gigs a month on download sometimes more my family streams online tv constantly but the bitrate is about 2000 kbps.

Servers were a no-no from day one. However, data caps are a more recent news item from VZ.


Smith6612
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reply to bluepoint

Re: Will VZ-Fios do something about Optimum new tiers?

said by bluepoint:

Wow that would be cool. What is the limit of a BPON ONT?

622Mbps/122Mbps in theory as the max for a BPON node, but you're going to be stuck at 100Mbps/100Mbps regardless due to the 100Mbps limit of MoCa WAN or Ethernet WAN.


bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
said by Smith6612:

said by bluepoint:

Wow that would be cool. What is the limit of a BPON ONT?

622Mbps/122Mbps in theory as the max for a BPON node, but you're going to be stuck at 100Mbps/100Mbps regardless due to the 100Mbps limit of MoCa WAN or Ethernet WAN.

So why do I see these link rates when the Actiontec router reconnects?
WAN Coax Link Rate TX 239Mbps/RX 241Mbps


Smith6612
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That's something I can't answer accurately. What I'm going off of is what I've read and have seen in person. I believe it has something to do with the way the MoCa chip in the ActionTec is connected up. Folks who have 150Mbps can't get more than about 92-94Mbps (100Mbps) from a MoCa connection when they do speed tests or normal transfers.


Thinkdiff
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reply to bluepoint
That's the PHY rate. Real world throughput will be much, much lower because the MAC rate is around 100Mbps:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia···Alliance
.
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bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
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Re: Will VZ-Fios do something about Optimum new tiers?

said by Smith6612:

That's something I can't answer accurately. What I'm going off of is what I've read and have seen in person. I believe it has something to do with the way the MoCa chip in the ActionTec is connected up. Folks who have 150Mbps can't get more than about 92-94Mbps (100Mbps) from a MoCa connection when they do speed tests or normal transfers.

That's good to know. Are all MOCA 1.0,1.1, 2.0 limited to 100Mbps. At what MOCA spec is Verizon FIOS operating?


bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
reply to Thinkdiff
said by Thinkdiff:

That's the PHY rate. Real world throughput will be much, much lower because the MAC rate is around 100Mbps:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia···Alliance
.

Thanks for the wiki link, it's way over my head though. I could not comprehend the relationship of PHY to MAC rate.


More Fiber
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reply to bluepoint
said by bluepoint:

Are all MOCA 1.0,1.1, 2.0 limited to 100Mbps.

No. MOCA 2.0 will support 400Mbps initially with subsequent upgrade to 800Mbps.
said by bluepoint:

At what MOCA spec is Verizon FIOS operating?

Depends on the device.
- BPON ONTs are MOCA 1.0.
- GPON ONTs are MOCA 1.1.
- Actiontec routers upto rev. E are MOCA 1.0
- Actiontec routers from rev. F forward are MOCA 1.1
- Motorola 6xxx STBs are MOCA 1.0
- Motorola 7xxx-P2 STBs are MOCA 1.1

You can check specific models here:
»www.mocalliance.org/industry/cer···ucts.php

said by bluepoint:

I could not comprehend the relationship of PHY to MAC rate

PHY rate is the rate of the bits on the wire. MOCA is a mesh network, like wireless where every device can talk to every other device. MAC rate is rate at which ethernet (data) frames are transferred. The difference between the two allows for error correction, holding off sending if another station is sending, etc.
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

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This is why Verizon isn't anxious to do speed upgrades.. MORE equipment to upgrade.


bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
reply to More Fiber
Lots of things I learned today! And finally some more questions if you won't mind More Fiber See Profile.

said by More Fiber:

Depends on the device.
- BPON ONTs are MOCA 1.0.
- GPON ONTs are MOCA 1.1.
- Actiontec routers upto rev. E are MOCA 1.0
- Actiontec routers from rev. F forward are MOCA 1.1
- Motorola 6xxx STBs are MOCA 1.0
- Motorola 7xxx-P2 STBs are MOCA 1.1

Are each one of the hardwares above firmware upgradable to MOCA 2.0? TIA


More Fiber
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said by bluepoint See ProfileAre each one of the hardwares above firmware upgradable to MOCA 2.0? [/BQUOTE :

No. MOCA 2.0 requires a new hardware chip.
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bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
Ouch! Then it appears because of the limitations Ethernet WAN is the better solution to a faster speeds. Not using MOCA in a BPON ONT using Ethernet, What is the maximum speed you can achieve?