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ZZZZZZZ
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[FireFox] FF 23 makes javascript obligatory

»www.i-programmer.info/news/86-br···ory.html

Just read this in the Opera thread...........has anyone seen this already?

Wonder how Noscript will handle this and is there a workaround to keep it disabled?

I use the toolbar buttons which has that option,but if I can't disable it I won't even be updating FF.

»addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox···buttons/
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chachazz
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Background Read - Checkboxes that kill your product

a) Experiment with Firefox 23 beta 5 with No Script (how can one manage javascript with NoScript if javascript is not 'enabled'...?)

b) about:config - javascript.enabled ...toggle-able

c) ability to toggle javascript will be in Firefox 24 DevTools
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ZZZZZZZ
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Wow,what a load of hogwash that article is!

I've had all my browsers running with javascript disabled for years and haven't missed a thing ..........except the bloody annoying aspects of sites.

No popups,no animation,no flashy gimmicks,no backdoor scripts,no nothing unless I want it to show.

It may be useful for newbies and it's something I tell my customers about but most learn to enable it if they need it.
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Juggernaut
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reply to ZZZZZZZ

I'm with you, no FF 23 if I can't directly control JS with NoScript.



JMHO42

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reply to ZZZZZZZ

I was going to 'Auto Quote' you using the site-provided button, but it doesn't work without javascript enabled. (The point: if you never have javascript enabled for a whole bunch of sites, then there are going to be quite a few features that you'll never be able to use--not even the helpful ones. Selectively enabled javascript, such as via NoScript, is essential; neither all nor nothing is the best answer.)



Cartel
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reply to ZZZZZZZ

The whole reason I use Firefox is I can disble javascript.
WTF are they doing?



kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

They're trying for the minimialist look where only the basics show aka the dumbing down of internet based devices because people don't want to learn about what they're using, they just want to use it. See Windows 8, Chrome, iPod/iPhone, etc. Just wait until that Australis theme comes for Firefox 26 around Thanksgiving. Mozilla is falling in line with everyone else sadly.



Cartel
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reply to ZZZZZZZ

»forums.informaction.com/viewtopi···&t=15577

NoScript still works as usual


EdmundGerber

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reply to Juggernaut

said by Juggernaut:

I'm with you, no FF 23 if I can't directly control JS with NoScript.

Sane here.

Who the hell is running things over there the past couple of years? Heh - at first 'running' had a typo - ruining - amounts to about the same thing, though.


GlennAllen
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reply to ZZZZZZZ

Maybe pictures will help...

Mozilla is removing this from the Options GUI:

Going... going...

as a method for setting this preference in about:config:

Not going anywhere


The preference itself, however, will still be there--with the same default value of 'true' (notice how I have it set to 'false' in my example image).


90115534
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Thank you people always go crazy for no reason.



siljaline
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reply to ZZZZZZZ

If this is the case, many will not update to FF 23 if Moz is going in this direction:
»news.slashdot.org/story/13/07/01···ligatory

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chachazz
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said by siljaline:

If this is the case, many will not update to FF 23 if Moz is going in this direction: »news.slashdot.org/story/13/07/01···ligatory



Your link..
quote:
Today there are a lot of programmers of the opinion that if the user has JavaScript off then its their own fault and consuming the page without JavaScript is as silly as trying to consume it without HTML."
..and the experienced/advanced/power users know exactly how to toggle javascript.

quote:
said by 90115534:

Thank you people always go crazy for no reason.


Amen to that.
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ZZZZZZZ
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quote:
.and the experienced/advanced/power users know exactly how to toggle javascript.
That's precisely the problem!!!

The newbie who doesn't know better ,who clicks on every link on every page ,has no option to disable this security threat,cause some yokel thinks that it will break the browser.

Are you guys kidding me...........this is idiocy.

The very users who need this option made visible are the ones who will be at risk of more infections and spreading malware.

Dumbest idea Mozilla has ever come out with.
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therube

join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD

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reply to chachazz

> (how can one manage javascript with NoScript if javascript is not 'enabled'...?)

You can't.



therube

join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD
reply to ZZZZZZZ

Untested, JS Switch.