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IowaCowboy
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New Modem Out

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I was at Best Buy today and I noticed that there is a new Motorola modem/gateway out. It says it supports MoCA and 802.11ac.

I did not get the exact model number but I snapped a photo.

Too bad it doesn't support CDV.
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It's the SBG6782

It was on the Best Buy site months back and was quickly taken down.

$199.99

I'm surprised they have it. But, it also doesn't even have an USB port .

»apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/V···G6782ACH

34764170

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reply to IowaCowboy
Nothing new or interesting here. 8x4 modems are not new.

It says the model right on the front of the box.


IowaCowboy
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reply to Darknessfall
said by Darknessfall:

It's the SBG6782
But, it also doesn't even have an USB port .

I have no use for a USB port on a modem. Ethernet is much better for wired connectivity.


telcodad
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The webpage on the ARRIS/Motorola site and Quick Start Guide for it:

SBG6782-AC SURFboard eXtreme Cable Modem, AC Wi-Fi Router with MoCA
»www.motorola.com/us/consumers/SB···,pd.html

SURFboard eXtreme SBG6782-AC Quick Start Guide
»www.motorola.com/on/demandware.s···,317,000


Darknessfall
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reply to IowaCowboy
said by IowaCowboy:

said by Darknessfall:

It's the SBG6782
But, it also doesn't even have an USB port .

I have no use for a USB port on a modem. Ethernet is much better for wired connectivity.

I meant USB for printers/hard drives since it's a gateway unless you mean printers/hard drives that have Ethernet ports.


EG
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reply to IowaCowboy
A first question would be is does CC even have a config for it, a second would be, if not, will they ?


Darknessfall
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If you look at:
»mmi.my.salesforce.com/sfc/#versi···0003UZWh

The user guide displays a fully revamped settings page.

andyross
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reply to IowaCowboy
It's a gateway, which means: DON'T USE IT


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reply to EG
On the box it says compatible with Comcast/Xfinity among others.


NathanO

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reply to IowaCowboy
This modem isn't on »mydeviceinfo.comcast.net/, so I'd either call Comcast and see if it is approved, or avoid purchasing until it is on mydeviceinfo.


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said by andyross:

It's a gateway....

Add a can opener, and you'd have a useful device.


EG
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O/k says the manufacturer but that does not guarantee that CC yet has a config written for it and / or obtained the firmware for testing. That alone typically takes months.


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reply to andyross
said by andyross:

It's a gateway, which means: DON'T USE IT

I just bought a SB6141 and I use it with my Apple AirPort Extreme Router.

One of the advantages of owning a modem is you get to choose the modem you want. If you rent, you are at the mercy of whatever device they have on the truck or at the service center.
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said by IowaCowboy:

said by andyross:

It's a gateway, which means: DON'T USE IT

I just bought a SB6141 and I use it with my Apple AirPort Extreme Router.

One of the advantages of owning a modem is you get to choose the modem you want. If you rent, you are at the mercy of whatever device they have on the truck or at the service center.

I think you missed the point. He is saying integrated modem/router devices have been universal garbage.

Owning a quality modem like the 6141 is a great idea and I'd guess that most people reading this thread do just the same. I too use a 6141. I forget I have it because it works so well.


Mike Wolf

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reply to telcodad
hmm this can be useful for me. I can use MoCA to connect my MoCA FiOS router to the cable modem instead of an Ethernet cable strung across the house. Only question is does this support MoCA 1.1 or MoCA 2.0
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Mike Wolf

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reply to Darknessfall
said by Darknessfall:

If you look at:
»mmi.my.salesforce.com/sfc/#versi···0003UZWh

The user guide displays a fully revamped settings page.

Yeah, this is asking for a username and password which none of us have.
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said by Mike Wolf:

said by Darknessfall:

If you look at:
»mmi.my.salesforce.com/sfc/#versi···0003UZWh

The user guide displays a fully revamped settings page.

Yeah, this is asking for a username and password which none of us have.

Go to »moto.arrisi.com/Video-Solutions/···n-Center

Click on "Browse Now"

Type "SBG6782" into the search bar

Click on the one called user guide

Try it that way .


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reply to Mike Wolf
said by Mike Wolf:

Only question is does this support MoCA 1.1 or MoCA 2.0?

Didn't find anything on the ARRIS/Motorola site about the MoCA version, but this short item »btreport.net/2012/10/motorola-mo···gateway/ about the unit says "MoCA 1.1"


Mike Wolf

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You are correct. In the user guide settings, the frequency range for MoCA was 1150 to 1500 instead of MoCA 2.0's 1650, so yes it's only MoCA 1.1 which limits the output to a max of 175Mbps MAC. Not bad but still below the Docsis 3.0 max speed and gigabit max speed.
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telcodad
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said by Mike Wolf:

You are correct. In the user guide settings, the frequency range for MoCA was 1150 to 1500 instead of MoCA 2.0's 1650, so yes it's only MoCA 1.1 which limits the output to a max of 175Mbps MAC. Not bad but still below the Docsis 3.0 max speed and gigabit max speed.

Well, if you want MoCA 2.0 capability, it looks like you'll have to wait for the ARRIS MG2402 "XG5" gateway box to become available: »Re: [X1] Xfinity X1 now available to New Customers

Here are the specs: »www.ncube.com/product_catalog/_d···UN13.pdf

said by Mike Wolf:

In the user guide settings, the frequency range for MoCA was 1150 to 1500 instead of MoCA 2.0's 1650, ...

Doesn't look like you can always go by that, as the specs for the MG2402 box say "MOCA 2.0 - Frequency (MHz) 1150 – 1500"


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Both are very valid points. Specs and even instruction manuals have been found to be incorrect on multiple products, even on the documentation installers and engineers receive. I remember a few times some brand new Verizon FiOS MoCA 1.1 set top boxes had documentation that stated that there was a maximum of 8 nodes can be on it's MoCA network, when it's actually 16 with the coordinator.

Regarding the XG5 [the ARRIS MG2402 gateway], I'd love to get that but something tells me it won't be available for customer purchase, and with how Comcast is handling the whole X1 experience equipment, there'll be some pretty wacky restrictions and fees and prices.
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telcodad
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said by Mike Wolf:

Regarding the XG5 [the ARRIS MG2402 gateway], I'd love to get that but something tells me it won't be available for customer purchase, and with how Comcast is handling the whole X1 experience equipment, there'll be some pretty wacky restrictions and fees and prices.

Yes, as Comcast would consider it as part of a video (X1) platform, I don't see an XG5 box being available for purchase, only lease.


Mike Wolf

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reply to telcodad
Wait can this modem act like a modem and allow a separate router to do all the routing work? Is there a bridging function?
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Mike Wolf

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reply to andyross
said by andyross:

It's a gateway, which means: DON'T USE IT

I've always been partial to Dell myself.
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telcodad
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said by Mike Wolf:

Wait can this modem act like a modem and allow a separate router to do all the routing work? Is there a bridging function?

While the new series of XFINITY Wireless Gateways (»customer.comcast.com/help-and-su···compare/) still allow their use in bridge mode ("If you would like to use your existing router instead of the routing functionality on your Wireless Gateway, the Bridge Mode on the Wireless Gateway will need to be enabled." See: »media2.comcast.net/anon.comcasto···0811.pdf), I don't know if this would be possible/allowed with an XG5 box.


Mike Wolf

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I'm not talking about the XG5. I'm talking about the SBG6782 in the thread. That's why I said "modem" and not "XG5"
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Mike Wolf

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reply to Darknessfall
»mmi.my.salesforce.com/sfc/#searc···RKSPACES
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telcodad
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reply to Mike Wolf
said by Mike Wolf:

I'm not talking about the XG5. I'm talking about the SBG6782 in the thread. That's why I said "modem" and not "XG5"

Oh OK, sorry. Then, like the Moto SBG6580 gateway modem, I think it should be able to be placed in Bridge Mode also.


Mike Wolf

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Pretty cool, but which one of the four Ethernet ports would be used as the bridge port? Will the MoCA connection also act like a bridge port so a MoCA enabled FiOS router would be able to use it on it's WAN Coax port?
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