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McLovins

@172.242.177.x

OMG this stuff is metered!

WOW, so I just moved out to a place about 1 hour 45 min west of Chicago, and it appears that only this company provides internet service. The kicker, it's metered! So they got no such thing as unlimited internet out here. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I am 43 years old, and have seen no internet, and then dial up speeds, then dsl, then cable come about. I am shocked there are places in the United States of America that do not have unlimited internet service. It isn't like the 3rd world, it is the 3rd world. I always wondered why poor people out in the rural parts of the country voted republican. NOW, I get it the services out her are a joke, and the people out here have no idea how much better it is in areas they didn't grow up in so they in turn remain ignorant ( not an insult just means not educated formally). Anyway Exede/WildBlue ugh what can I say its a joke that they charge for download usage per gig. I guess that fits into their free market mentality. Rape them as much as they can, as long as they can, and then wonder why your customers are dying for some competitor to come in and wipe you out with modern day services.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by McLovins :

The kicker, it's metered!

That's internet's future....coming soon to all using broadband...they just can't wait.

Btw, your IP address is listed as: VS1-EXEDE3

»whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-172-242-0-0-1

Hmmm, Exede 3....is that in your future That would be the real kicker!

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to McLovins
You call rural people ignorant, yet you claim to have not known about metered internet which the majority of providers just so happen to implement? You really think people do not know how much better the internet is on average in urban places? I think I just met someone very ignorant and it isn't those "poor" people living out in rural areas.


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
reply to McLovins
said by McLovins :

they in turn remain ignorant

Pot --> Kettle.
I have consciously and purposefully avoided city-dwelling for the last 29 years. During my overall 65 years I've managed to garner 3 post-grad degrees as well, and vote Republican at every opportunity. So you'll likely also find it "crazy" that I do consider your "Occupy" mindset insulting

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JSheridan

join:2006-07-03
USA
reply to McLovins
said by McLovins :

WOW, so I just moved out to a place about 1 hour 45 min west of Chicago, and it appears that only this company provides internet service. The kicker, it's metered! So they got no such thing as unlimited internet out here. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I am 43 years old, and have seen no internet, and then dial up speeds, then dsl, then cable come about. I am shocked there are places in the United States of America that do not have unlimited internet service. It isn't like the 3rd world, it is the 3rd world. I always wondered why poor people out in the rural parts of the country voted republican. NOW, I get it the services out her are a joke, and the people out here have no idea how much better it is in areas they didn't grow up in so they in turn remain ignorant ( not an insult just means not educated formally). Anyway Exede/WildBlue ugh what can I say its a joke that they charge for download usage per gig. I guess that fits into their free market mentality. Rape them as much as they can, as long as they can, and then wonder why your customers are dying for some competitor to come in and wipe you out with modern day services.

What an arrogant, ignorant and offensive assortment of words and impressions. No wonder this country is quickly going down the toilet.

OldSatUser

join:2012-05-10
Fresno, OH
reply to McLovins
Just somebody that wants to whine and complain and stir people up, making attacks on others. Just best to ignore.


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
reply to JSheridan
said by JSheridan:

No wonder this country is quickly going down the toilet.

What a great idea!! Sign McLovins up for the "Occupy Toilet" movement.

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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by grohgreg:

What a great idea!! Sign McLovins up for the "Occupy Toilet" movement.

Why, of course....

Boffins want toilets to become POWER PLANTS


Abyss1992

join:2012-08-18
Walton, WV
reply to McLovins
I know the feeling about the meters but you could have made your statement a little bit more shall I say professional.
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james1979
Premium
join:2012-10-09
Quinault, WA
reply to McLovins
Oh, I'll take lower data caps along with my own forest surrounded by mountains and then a river and waterfall that I walk to every day over living like that.


FreeBSDuser

join:2013-05-15
Somers, NY
reply to McLovins
said by McLovins :

I am shocked there are places in the United States of America that do not have unlimited internet service.

There are many places, even large cities which don't have unlimited internet service, even on DSL and Cable. But the reality of life is that if you have satellite internet, you will have caps.

But next time, check each house you're considering to see if they have wired broadband.
Expand your moderator at work


james1979
Premium
join:2012-10-09
Quinault, WA
reply to FreeBSDuser

Re: OMG this stuff is metered!

While I also suspect that we are dealing with a troll, that doesn't mean that we can't have fun and learn.

First, I meant no offense to people living in a city by uploading that photo (from around Houston, TX).
I lived in a city for nearly 20 years! I went from Internet only on campus with a DEC VT320 in my office, to a DOV box and a VT220 at home, to dial-up (for 3 years?), and then I was one of the first batch of consumers who got to use a cable modem. There was something about that photo that made me think "Ugg, I wouldn't want to live there." I initially thought it was because there were "too many houses too close together". Upon reflection, it is the lack of trees which turned me off. And upon closer examination, it looks like there is one tree planted in front of each house. (That makes me wonder if their HOA dictates the number and/or variety of trees which can be planted.)

Next, I asked three well educated people if their ISP metered their usage. I started with a PhD in physics who lives several miles "up the road" and has CenturyLink DSL as his ISP. His response was "I don't know. It's so slow that it doesn't matter." Next, I asked a software engineer in a capitol city in Texas; his response was "Yes, but I don't remember the data cap." And then I asked a network operations specialist at a medium size city in Texas and his response was "Yes. I have no idea. It's generally done to identify compromised machines." As for the urbanites, when I visit them, I haven't noticed reality being altered into a paradise just because there is no concern over data usage. Yes, we can play video games and watch Netflix, but what else is there? Video on demand would be nice to reduce the clutter of owning DVDs and Blu-Rays, but my house has an entertainment center with storage built just for storing media. (None of us engage in file sharing or one other obvious usage of data.)

Finally, extra data is indeed for sale - it is as unlimited as your bank account. Internet data is just more expensive with satellites. What is less expensive in rural areas is water and sewage. (Hey, we've got unmetered water!) I don't know what the lifetime of a pump is, but the power to run it for non-agricultural use is negligible. Septic service companies suggest pumping the tank every 5 years, which means that it's OK to pump it every 10 years. At a cost of around $300 for pumping, that comes out to $2.50 per month. (If your drain field is damaged, that is an expensive repair - close to $20K, but that seems to be an Internet horror story issue.) A final cost savings of living in a rural area with a low crime rate is that homeowner's insurance isn't really expensive.


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
Excellent counterpoint James; all valid arguments, none of which ever cross the minds of these Occupy types. Mention of file sharing is appropriate as well, which is little more than a PC descriptive for pirating - and is consistent with their "the world owes me a living" mentality.

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patt2k

join:2009-01-16
kudos:1
reply to McLovins
McLovings where you live? at least a zipcode. You might be good with Millenicom via Verizon's 3G/4G LTE 20GB cap better then crap sat.

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
Reviews:
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reply to McLovins
Heh, I get up every morning to birds singing around the farm, 2 or more squirrels playing in the huge walnut trees next to my house and my dogs wrestling with each other in my unfenced front yard and as soon as I get my first cup of coffee down, I go out and spend a few minutes tending my garden and enjoying all of those things listed above. I don't consider this ignorant, I consider this a few steps short of heaven myself. I can and may at some point raise chickens, cows and pigs without worrying about my neighbors complaining, I have no worries about prowlers or other criminals because they now everyone here is armed and they no how and when to use those weapons. There are many other "perks" to living where I live that those in the cities will never see where they live, so the low caps on my internet connection are not something I an really concerned about.

At some point I will invest in an antenna tower so I can shoot over the small rise between me and a WISP tower so I can get unlimited service, but when I do that, it will be for cheaper internet and lower latency and not because it is unlimited. I have a teenage son and my wife, son and I each have a computer and have the 15 GB plan on exede and we have yet to be fapped in the few months we have had it and before that, from 2002 to 2012 we had HN with a 500 MB a day cap and in ten years we hit the fap wall maybe a dozen or so times due to software updates.

My point is, there are better things to be doing out here than just sitting in front of a computer all day worrying about whether your going to go over that cap, and if you actually take the time to enjoy those things then going over that cap is unlikely to be a real problem.
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Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10
reply to McLovins
At a download speed of 12 million bits/second, a monthly download limit of 7500 million bytes is used in 1 hour and 23 minutes leaving about 719 hours per month to do other things. McLovins has plenty of time to listen to the birds sing and crickets chirp.


hdman
Flt Rider
Premium
join:2003-11-25
Appleton, WI
Reviews:
·exede by ViaSat
reply to McLovins
Please, move on. Don't feed the troll.....
The only ignorant people are those who buy a service without properly doing the research.....
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Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ
Reviews:
·Cox HSI
reply to grohgreg
Hello Greg
I don't think you are being fair with your occupy comment:
"So you'll likely also find it "crazy" that I do consider your "Occupy" mindset insulting"

The OP may be a bit kooky but it is a rather large leap to the 'occupy mindset'

I frequently encounter kooks who feverishly subscribe to the status quo and don't automatically associate them with 'dittohead mindsets'
We need to get along and help where we can...and shut up where we can't


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
said by McLovins :

WOW... It isn't like the 3rd world, it is the 3rd world. I always wondered why poor people out in the rural parts of the country voted Republican...I guess that fits into their free market mentality. Rape them as much as they can, as long as they can....

Buzz phrases lifted right out of the "Occupy for Idiots" manual

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Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ
link please


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
Honestly? You need to send out a search party to help locate your sense of humor !! Will this one do? »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

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Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ
I gave up heavy drinking many years ago so it is unlikely i will be able to stumble across the place where I could locate the humor in that comment

My loss I guess...

Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ
Reviews:
·Cox HSI
reply to grohgreg
Thanks for the link, it is terrific!
I particularly enjoyed:
Additionally, the methods taken from Rules for Radicals have also been prevalent in modern, American politics. Newt Gingrichs most recent primary campaign was noted for featuring strong elements of Alinskys organizing techniques

Also Rule #5 is of particular interest:
Ridicule is mans most potent weapon.
It is well used by a wide range of the political spectrum and the primary MO of talk radio, in my view...


Exede Zac

join:2013-03-06
Davenport, IA
kudos:1
reply to McLovins
said by McLovins :

WOW, so I just moved out to a place about 1 hour 45 min west of Chicago, and it appears that only this company provides internet service. The kicker, it's metered! So they got no such thing as unlimited internet out here. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I am 43 years old, and have seen no internet, and then dial up speeds, then dsl, then cable come about. I am shocked there are places in the United States of America that do not have unlimited internet service. It isn't like the 3rd world, it is the 3rd world. I always wondered why poor people out in the rural parts of the country voted republican. NOW, I get it the services out her are a joke, and the people out here have no idea how much better it is in areas they didn't grow up in so they in turn remain ignorant ( not an insult just means not educated formally). Anyway Exede/WildBlue ugh what can I say its a joke that they charge for download usage per gig. I guess that fits into their free market mentality. Rape them as much as they can, as long as they can, and then wonder why your customers are dying for some competitor to come in and wipe you out with modern day services.

Hi McLovins,

Most providers do place "caps" on their data. We do provide many options for those who need more data such as three tiers of packages, Buy More and our Late Night Free Zone for unmetered data.
With Cable and DSL, the infrastructure is completely different and because it's simpler than our technology, they are able to provide much more bandwidth and a lowered cost. Believe it or not, they do have limits as well, they're just higher. Satellite technology is newer, therefore, more expensive to provide and in order to provide the same amount of data that they provide, would mean more Satellite's would need to be launched to account for the same amount of capacity other providers give.


Abyss1992

join:2012-08-18
Walton, WV
100GB to 1TB of usage a month on DSL and cable also the Exede infrastructure seems pretty stable as it was able to take me at full bore (torrents, youtube, livestreaming, skype) for 8 months of my contract and during the LNFZ last month when I got over 400GB downloaded often at 2MB/s.


Exede Zac

join:2013-03-06
Davenport, IA
kudos:1
said by Abyss1992:

during the LNFZ last month when I got over 400GB downloaded often at 2MB/s.

400GB's? I guess the LNFZ does come in handy huh? I'm glad that you are taking full benefit of this handy feature for Exede customers!
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TheTechGuru

join:2004-03-25
TEXAS
kudos:2
Reviews:
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reply to McLovins
said by McLovins :

WOW, so I just moved out to a place about 1 hour 45 min west of Chicago, and it appears that only this company provides internet service. The kicker, it's metered! So they got no such thing as unlimited internet out here. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I am 43 years old, and have seen no internet, and then dial up speeds, then dsl, then cable come about. I am shocked there are places in the United States of America that do not have unlimited internet service. It isn't like the 3rd world, it is the 3rd world. I always wondered why poor people out in the rural parts of the country voted republican. NOW, I get it the services out her are a joke, and the people out here have no idea how much better it is in areas they didn't grow up in so they in turn remain ignorant ( not an insult just means not educated formally). Anyway Exede/WildBlue ugh what can I say its a joke that they charge for download usage per gig. I guess that fits into their free market mentality. Rape them as much as they can, as long as they can, and then wonder why your customers are dying for some competitor to come in and wipe you out with modern day services.

Have you checked with »www.t6b.com ? They look to have a lot of coverage west of Chicago. I had their 15/3 here in TX and it was very good. Only one outage in the middle of the night and consistent as advertised speeds.

T6 – Illinois & Wisconsin
1890 Chrysler Drive
Belvidere, IL 61008
Phone – 815-547-3885
Fax – 815-420-2020

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